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Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« on: January 29, 2018, 05:57:03 PM »
House Intel votes to make Nunes memo public

January 29, 2018 - 06:22 PM EST
By Katie Bo Williams


The House Intelligence Committee on Monday evening voted to make public a GOP-crafted memo alleging what some Republicans say are “shocking” surveillance abuses at the Department of Justice (DOJ), according to the committee's Democratic members.

The committee voted against making public the Democrat-drafted counter-memo, but did vote to release it to the entire House, Democratic lawmakers said. The majority members expressed concern that the minority memo would damage sources and intelligence methods, according to ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.).

The move ends weeks of speculation over whether the memo, which was drafted by staff for chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), would be made public. But it intensifies the dispute over what Democrats say is an all-out assault by Republicans to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The document will not be immediately released. Under the arcane House rule Republicans used to override the classification of the four-page memo, President Trump now has five days to review and reject its publication.

But the White House has signaled support for the document’s release and is widely expected to defy the DOJ in allowing the publication to go forward. The DOJ has opposed the release of the document, reportedly infuriating President Trump.

Some Republicans who have read the memo have hinted heavily that it contains information that could unravel the entire Mueller investigation, long described by the president as a “witch hunt.”

The precise contents of the memo remain unknown. However, it’s believed to contain allegations that the FBI did not adequately explain to a clandestine court that some of the information it used in a surveillance warrant application for Trump adviser Carter Page came from opposition research funded by the Clinton campaign, now known as the “Steele dossier.”

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http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/371280-house-intel-votes-to-make-nunes-memo-public
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 05:58:50 PM »
I doubt this derails the Mueller investigation.  And did anyone, at this point, still not believe that the FBI was deeply politicized, or that Obama engaged in some shenanigans on his way out of office ?
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 06:27:14 PM »
I doubt this derails the Mueller investigation.  And did anyone, at this point, still not believe that the FBI was deeply politicized, or that Obama engaged in some shenanigans on his way out of office ?

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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 06:37:23 PM »
He got Trump's microwave to spy.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 06:48:26 PM »
He got Trump's microwave to spy.
I miss Kellyanne Conway a bit.  What’s happened to her- has she become a full-fledged crazy homeless cat lady yet ?
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 06:51:27 PM »
I miss Kellyanne Conway a bit.  What’s happened to her- has she become a full-fledged crazy homeless cat lady yet ?

Even Sarah Palin had more staying power.
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 10:21:13 PM »
My guess is this is way overhyped and won't amount to much. 

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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 06:53:38 AM »
My guess is this is way overhyped and won't amount to much. 
That’s what one side will say, to be sure.

It’s pretty much assured that in 4-8 years, when the parties in power / in opposition are reversed, they’ll still be engaging in this finger-pointing.  I just hope our federal law enforcement isn’t as compromised then.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 07:15:00 AM »
That’s what one side will say, to be sure.

It’s pretty much assured that in 4-8 years, when the parties in power / in opposition are reversed, they’ll still be engaging in this finger-pointing.  I just hope our federal law enforcement isn’t as compromised then.
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 07:24:43 AM »
We are already in year 9 of this crap.
even that’s being generous
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 07:56:31 AM »
even that’s being generous
Yeah, I was going to say, this dates back to Bill Clinton.
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 07:59:02 AM »
It's just a smokescreen. 

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 07:59:49 AM »
It's just a smokescreen. 
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 08:01:49 AM »
Yeah, I was going to say, this dates back to Bill Clinton.
i was thinking Clinton, but I figured my age might have prevented me from seeing the depths of the political divide before that.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 08:04:54 AM »
Reagan took a lot of heat (especially in his second term), and nobody really liked Bush I, but I didn’t think we were as divided as we have been since Clinton - for sure during the Lewinsky scandal when Republicans smelled blood
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2018, 10:05:42 AM »
Reagan took a lot of heat (especially in his second term), and nobody really liked Bush I, but I didn’t think we were as divided as we have been since Clinton - for sure during the Lewinsky scandal when Republicans smelled blood

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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2018, 10:12:42 AM »
You ought to see what he Federalists did to T Jefferson
What did Breitbart have to say about that ?!  *triggered
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2018, 10:15:40 AM »
What did Breitbart have to say about that ?!  *triggered

blah blah blah womanizer blah blah blah immoral blah blah blah atheist blah blah blah...
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2018, 10:46:31 AM »
Yeah, I was going to say, this dates back to Bill Clinton.
Clinton and Gingrich could actually get stuff done as Reagan and O’Neil did.  Ever since Obamacare was passed the politics have just been incredibly nasty.

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2018, 11:21:22 AM »
Clinton and Gingrich could actually get stuff done as Reagan and O’Neil did.  Ever since Obamacare was passed the politics have just been incredibly nasty.
I agree, the scumbag democrats set the nasty tone by using reconciliation to ram Obaminationcare down our throats.
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Re: Ready for Washington to get even more shitty ?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2018, 11:22:17 AM »
Clinton and Gingrich could actually get stuff done as Reagan and O’Neil did.  Ever since Obamacare was passed the politics have just been incredibly nasty.
It's been downhill ever since Bush I lost to Clinton.  Yes, cooler heads were able to accomplish things, because there were good intermediaries.  But things have become embroiled in politics since then.  The witch hunt to get Clinton, the craziness around the Supreme Court deciding the presidential election in 2000, the shutdown tactics of the Republicans against Obama, and now the shutdown tactics of the Democrats against Trump...  it's been just thoroughly nasty.

I imagine there are still a few good people in government, trying to work together, compromise and actually govern responsibly.  But the trend has been to point fingers, leak confidential information, let the country get pissed off at the failing party in office and then wait their turn to take over after the next election.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2018, 11:23:27 AM »
You ought to see what he Federalists did to T Jefferson
oh, hell yeah. but it did calm for a little while after that, didn't it? then we were full speed ahead again
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2018, 11:27:56 AM »
It's been downhill ever since Bush I lost to Clinton.  Yes, cooler heads were able to accomplish things, because there were good intermediaries.  But things have become embroiled in politics since then.  The witch hunt to get Clinton, the craziness around the Supreme Court deciding the presidential election in 2000, the shutdown tactics of the Republicans against Obama, and now the shutdown tactics of the Democrats against Trump...  it's been just thoroughly nasty.

I imagine there are still a few good people in government, trying to work together, compromise and actually govern responsibly.  But the trend has been to point fingers, leak confidential information, let the country get pissed off at the failing party in office and then wait their turn to take over after the next election.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2018, 11:28:47 AM »
oh, hell yeah. but it did calm for a little while after that, didn't it? then we were full speed ahead again
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2018, 11:35:22 AM »
The bastard Democrats killed Lincoln.

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