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Re: Discovering that Packjason is a Thief as well as a Liar.
« Reply #75 on: February 12, 2018, 07:47:22 AM »
Sol, let me ask you a serious question. How many wins do you consider Joe Paterno to have? I mean, they happened, right? Univeristy of Louisville basketball titles?
I don't know. I would have to google it, I don't pay that much attention to CFB. Butto answer your question I would say the pedo enabler has as many wins as games where his team had the higher score when the game was called as over.
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« Reply #76 on: February 12, 2018, 07:48:37 AM »
Hahaha

Here it comes: goalposts about to be moved!!

"Great ones don't lose in the finals!  That's what makes them "great"... ya know, like Alexander the "GREAT!"
 
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« Reply #77 on: February 12, 2018, 11:48:03 AM »
I agree, stupid law, and while it does allow for LEGAL HISTORY to be re-written, it doesn't allow REAL HISTORY to be re-written.

Bottom line is, which one matters? Unfortunately real history does not.
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« Reply #78 on: February 12, 2018, 12:33:08 PM »
Bottom line is, which one matters? Unfortunately real history does not.
Of course it does, except in specific legal matters. You can't legislate reality.
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« Reply #79 on: February 12, 2018, 03:29:40 PM »
Of course it does, except in specific legal matters. You can't legislate reality.

Again, to the only people that matter, which in this case should be the Lloyd family, he is not a convicted murderer. Their lawyer cannot mention said words in the civil trial, or bring up anything from the criminal case. And what do you mean you can't legislate reality? It happens all the time. See my examples above. Rules get broken, results get changed. Now should it be allowed is another debate all together. And as I have stated, in this specific example I am on board with you that it should not.
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« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2018, 05:18:36 PM »
Again, to the only people that matter, which in this case should be the Lloyd family, he is not a convicted murderer. Their lawyer cannot mention said words in the civil trial, or bring up anything from the criminal case. And what do you mean you can't legislate reality? It happens all the time. See my examples above. Rules get broken, results get changed. Now should it be allowed is another debate all together. And as I have stated, in this specific example I am on board with you that it should not.
Oh, so now you've been appointed arbiter of "who matters", maybe I shouldn't have called you an idiot so many times. Nah, they were all deserved.

You can't legislate reality. Reality IS. it doesn't matter what the law says it is, when it disagrees with reality, the law is wrong. So you have that in common with the law.
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« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2018, 05:23:09 PM »
Remember when the Bears beat the Steelers?
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« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2018, 05:24:53 PM »
Remember when the Bears beat the Steelers?

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« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2018, 06:04:57 PM »
Remember when the Bears beat the Steelers?
No, but if you give me the $80 you owe me it might help jog my memory.
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« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2018, 07:26:16 PM »
I think you should read the law again, maybe it will entertain you while you sit there being wrong. You can't vacate a conviction that didn't happen. He was convicted, the conviction was vacated. It happened. Therefore He was convicted. We aren't talking about BS about how the law considers it, we are talking reality, not buccinidiotland.

From what I gather, you're both right at what you argue. The argument that a conviction first has to appear in order to be vacated is common sense. An Appeals court will only address that in which happened, otherwise, they rule on hypothetical cases. Once an appeal is filed  the case becomes a matter of protocol. that is it must retain certain criteria for it to be argued, it must have merit to proceed. If it doesn't it becomes frivolous. Hernandez timely filed an appeal and although the date was not established, the court accepted the appeal and that would be "the conviction ".
Massachusetts law then prohibited further civil jurisprudence by enacting a statutory law that becomes effective when a death occurs. The Appeal court has no other option, it cannot remand, remand with reservation or make any other declaration other than VACATE.  By vacating it places an estoppel on any further and all proceedings relevant to the case ( which includes the term CONVICTION ). The vacated case then legally becomes one that in essence was not tried and that no evidence exists that was presented in that case. Massachusetts places an abetment on the case.
This action doesn't mean the appeal contained fraudulent evidence, false or incriminating testimony, it simply states that anything pertaining to the case is sealed.
A vacated case does not mean the conviction is overturned, it means the state will be barred from further prosecution and that any civil procedures will lack any evidence presented in connection with it. It ensures that the sentence will not be served and that the effected party(s) will not have recourse.
A vacated case does not exonerate the original charge ( although it treats the defendant as if they were not charged ) it places the case in limbo and therefore the defendants charge is never applied

You are both technically right as BUC is legally right SOL is procedurally right
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« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2018, 09:20:31 PM »
From what I gather, you're both right at what you argue. The argument that a conviction first has to appear in order to be vacated is common sense. An Appeals court will only address that in which happened, otherwise, they rule on hypothetical cases. Once an appeal is filed  the case becomes a matter of protocol. that is it must retain certain criteria for it to be argued, it must have merit to proceed. If it doesn't it becomes frivolous. Hernandez timely filed an appeal and although the date was not established, the court accepted the appeal and that would be "the conviction ".
Massachusetts law then prohibited further civil jurisprudence by enacting a statutory law that becomes effective when a death occurs. The Appeal court has no other option, it cannot remand, remand with reservation or make any other declaration other than VACATE.  By vacating it places an estoppel on any further and all proceedings relevant to the case ( which includes the term CONVICTION ). The vacated case then legally becomes one that in essence was not tried and that no evidence exists that was presented in that case. Massachusetts places an abetment on the case.
This action doesn't mean the appeal contained fraudulent evidence, false or incriminating testimony, it simply states that anything pertaining to the case is sealed.
A vacated case does not mean the conviction is overturned, it means the state will be barred from further prosecution and that any civil procedures will lack any evidence presented in connection with it. It ensures that the sentence will not be served and that the effected party(s) will not have recourse.
A vacated case does not exonerate the original charge ( although it treats the defendant as if they were not charged ) it places the case in limbo and therefore the defendants charge is never applied

You are both technically right as BUC is legally right SOL is procedurally right
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« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2018, 09:21:22 PM »
:)

Bucc was still wrong when he said he was never convicted.
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« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2018, 09:59:00 PM »
:)

Bucc was still wrong when he said he was never convicted.

False

No conviction is the official record.  You lose.  gnite
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« Reply #88 on: February 13, 2018, 12:52:21 AM »
False

No conviction is the official record.  You lose.  gnite
Tut, tut little idiot. Learn the difference between "was" and "is".

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« Reply #89 on: February 13, 2018, 03:07:51 AM »
Tut, tut little idiot. Learn the difference between "was" and "is".

Thanks for playing.

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Here's your case of Turtle wax, and your,

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hahahahaha, Sol got OWNED again.  Sol too stupid to actually interpret the fact that he was in fact, not convicted.  Sorry fatso, but you lose again.  Back to the drawing board skintag fag.
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« Reply #90 on: February 13, 2018, 08:56:18 AM »
hahahahaha, Sol got OWNED again.  Sol too stupid to actually interpret the fact that he was in fact, not convicted.  Sorry fatso, but you lose again.  Back to the drawing board skintag fag.
Try not to drool so much when you lie.
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« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2018, 09:24:57 AM »
how is it a lie when you posted the pic?  everyone saw it, skinfag.
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« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2018, 09:37:37 AM »
how is it a lie when you posted the pic?  everyone saw it, skinfag.

Whan Sol lies, it's actually everyone else who is lying.

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« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2018, 10:06:40 AM »
Whan Sol lies, it's actually everyone else who is lying.

He's such a tool.
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« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2018, 11:52:35 AM »
Whan Sol lies, it's actually everyone else who is lying.
Who is Whan Sol, liar?
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« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2018, 11:53:35 AM »
how is it a lie when you posted the pic?  everyone saw it, skinfag.
It's a lie when you don't know the difference between a skin tag and a mole, hog jowls.
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« Reply #96 on: February 13, 2018, 12:19:31 PM »
Who is Whan Sol?

Your Asian boyfriend? 

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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2018, 12:38:14 PM »
Who is Whan Sol, liar?

Pine-Sol's cousin.
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