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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2018, 10:34:35 PM »
Nope, 2>1
2 what ?  Championships ?  That's not the only mark of a HOF QB either.  Joe Flacco's not better than Dan Marino, just because 1>0.
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2018, 10:36:13 PM »
2 what ?  Championships ?  That's not the only mark of a HOF QB either.  Joe Flacco's not better than Dan Marino, just because 1>0.
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2018, 10:59:21 PM »
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2018, 08:14:18 AM »
Why don't you just be honest and admit that cumulative yardage stats just show decent productivity and health over a long period of time?

However, if ever a QB only plays 8 seasons, missing 2 full seasons worth of games and throws for 70,000 yards, I'll say I was wrong and amend my position.

It is true that career stats like yardage have more to do with how well the player's body holds up over time, as well as how the game is played during their career (like how it's weighted heavily toward passing these days).  However, it's also not about just "decent production".  You have to do much better than "decent" to break records like this. 

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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2018, 09:01:42 AM »
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2018, 10:15:55 AM »
It is true that career stats like yardage have more to do with how well the player's body holds up over time, as well as how the game is played during their career (like how it's weighted heavily toward passing these days).  However, it's also not about just "decent production".  You have to do much better than "decent" to break records like this.
No, wrong.

If a hypothetical QB simply played 2 more seasons than Drew, they would only need 250 yards per game to equal his feat, even missing the same number of games as he has.
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2018, 10:33:08 AM »
No, wrong.

If a hypothetical QB simply played 2 more seasons than Drew, they would only need 250 yards per game to equal his feat, even missing the same number of games as he has.

Yes, but that means the QB would have played 19+ seasons as a starter.  You have to be damn good to be a starter in this league for that long.  Also, 250 yards/game is pretty good.  That's 4,000 yards in a season.  Even in today's game that's better than "decent".  Brees's average yards per game is 284, which would be about a 4,500-yard season.  That's his average, even counting his early years in San Diego where he was under 3,600 yards every season.

In a general sense, it's true that career stats like this favor longevity over skill, but only to a point.  It's like goals in hockey.  To get near the top of that list, you still have to be a great goal scorer.  If you score 20 goals/season, you'd have to play 30 seasons to get in the top 20 of all-time.  With passing yards, you're not getting anywhere near the top unless you're a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer.

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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2018, 10:45:36 AM »
Yes, but that means the QB would have played 19+ seasons as a starter.  You have to be damn good to be a starter in this league for that long.  Also, 250 yards/game is pretty good.  That's 4,000 yards in a season.  Even in today's game that's better than "decent".  Brees's average yards per game is 284, which would be about a 4,500-yard season.  That's his average, even counting his early years in San Diego where he was under 3,600 yards every season.

In a general sense, it's true that career stats like this favor longevity over skill, but only to a point.  It's like goals in hockey.  To get near the top of that list, you still have to be a great goal scorer.  If you score 20 goals/season, you'd have to play 30 seasons to get in the top 20 of all-time.  With passing yards, you're not getting anywhere near the top unless you're a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer.
So? 19 seasons. Again that's a reflection on health and longevity in the league, not skill.

" Also, 250 yards/game is pretty good.  That's 4,000 yards in a season.  Even in today's game that's better than "decent""

In today's game? Surely you must be joking! 19 QBs this year are on pace for well over 4000 yards.

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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2018, 10:52:30 AM »
So? 19 seasons. Again that's a reflection on health and longevity in the league, not skill.

Read what I said again.  It's a reflection of skill too.  You won't be a starter in this league for 19 seasons unless you're more than just a "decent" QB. 

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" Also, 250 yards/game is pretty good.  That's 4,000 yards in a season.  Even in today's game that's better than "decent""

In today's game? Surely you must be joking! 19 QBs this year are on pace for well over 4000 yards.

They're on pace for it, but they're not going to hit it.  Last year 8 QBs hit 4,000 yards.  The few years before that it was about 11-13.  I'm not saying 4,000 yards is anything spectacular, but it's still well above "decent".  And that's just for one year.  Doing that as your average over the course of 17 years is amazing. 

EDIT: Brees in his 13 years in New Orleans is averaging 306 yards/game.  He's AVERAGING 4,800 passing yards per season over the past 13 seasons. 
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2018, 10:54:15 AM »
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2018, 11:29:36 AM »
Read what I said again.  It's a reflection of skill too.  You won't be a starter in this league for 19 seasons unless you're more than just a "decent" QB. 

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Ahem, George Blanda, 26 seasons, mediocre.
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2018, 11:34:48 AM »
Ahem, George Blanda, 26 seasons, mediocre.

He was a starting QB for 8-10 seasons.  He was a backup QB/kicker for the rest of his career.

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« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2018, 11:46:00 AM »
He was a starting QB for 8-10 seasons.  He was a backup QB/kicker for the rest of his career.
Both Earl Morrall and Fran Tarkenton have played almost as many games and were mediocre.
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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2018, 11:54:48 AM »
Both Earl Morrall and Fran Tarkenton have played almost as many games and were mediocre.

Earl Morrall wasn't a starter for most of his career.  Tarkenton is a Hall-of-Famer.  But please keep trying. 

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Re: The Greatest QB of All-Time (Passing Yardage)
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2018, 12:00:34 PM »
Both Earl Morrall and Fran Tarkenton have played almost as many games and were mediocre.

Tarkenton was mediocre?

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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2018, 12:04:27 PM »
Tarkenton was mediocre?

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« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2018, 12:07:19 PM »
Good QBs don't lose 3 Superbowls

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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2018, 12:23:11 PM »
Teams win Super Bowls, Captain Dumbfuck.
Right, so there is no such thing as a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Damn, you are profoundly retarded. Must be all that brain damage.
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« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2018, 12:24:28 PM »
Right, so there is no such thing as a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Damn, you are profoundly retarded. Must be all that brain damage.

I suppose you think Barry Sanders was a mediocre running back.  LOL 

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