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After Further Review => After Further Review => Topic started by: Cali Cat on April 04, 2014, 11:47:00 PM

Title: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 7 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on April 04, 2014, 11:47:00 PM
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Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: steelerssb on April 05, 2014, 02:07:38 AM
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Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on April 05, 2014, 12:26:50 PM
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That Dude is back?   I still have not figured out from two years ago the guy that protected the captured girl/boy.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on April 05, 2014, 04:34:16 PM

That Dude is back?   I still have not figured out from two years ago the guy that protected the captured girl/boy.

By "that dude" do you mean Jaquen H'ghar?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on April 05, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
By "that dude" do you mean Jaquen H'ghar?


I mean the guy that transformed himself, appearance wise, after he killed those guys threatening the girl/boy.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on April 05, 2014, 04:58:46 PM

I mean the guy that transformed himself, appearance wise, after he killed those guys threatening the girl/boy.

That's Jaquen H'ghar...or that was his name when he was wearing that face.
I can't tell you whether he's back, or not.
The season doesn't start until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on April 06, 2014, 07:40:40 PM
Heeheehee...

Even though I'm on the west coast, I can watch the new episode on HBO-East, which means I don't even have to wait until 9 o'clock...
I only have to wait 20 more minutes. blitz1
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: DeeHawkz23 on April 06, 2014, 07:50:05 PM
Wonder how much of a time jump they are doing? From the previews, the dragons look like they are in full fudge things up mode... My guess is this season is the last quarter of the book.  Also drink every time someone gets double crossed grin1
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on April 06, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
Dog is my new favorite character.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on April 07, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
So it was a free HBO weekend on my cable service and I recorded 17 episodes of Game of Thrones, starting in the second series and going thru last nights episode. Now I just need some time to watch it.

Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on April 13, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
Valar Morghulis, indeed. towl
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Mr. Shickadance on April 14, 2014, 05:56:29 AM
Dog is my new favorite character.

Is he a bounty hunter?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: CHASER on April 14, 2014, 07:05:59 AM
Is he a bounty hunter?

lol...it's on A&E right now. Man his old lady has some circus titties. They kind of freak me out...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on April 14, 2014, 07:38:22 AM
Is he a bounty hunter?
Yes, and they have the same stylist.


lol...it's on A&E right now. Man his old lady has some circus titties. They kind of freak me out...
I couldn't even tell you which channels A&E and TLC were on my cable box.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: CHASER on April 14, 2014, 07:45:37 AM
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I couldn't even tell you which channels A&E

'The First 48'


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and TLC were on my cable box.

no idea
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 05:01:51 PM
After taking last week off (damn them), Game of Thrones is back.

I can't wait to see tonight's episode.
Oberyn and The Mountain finally face off.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2014, 05:55:14 PM
After taking last week off (damn them), Game of Thrones is back.

I can't wait to see tonight's episode.
Oberyn and The Mountain finally face off.
I wouldn't get too excited.  Oberyn's a dead man.  One of the laws of TV series is that characters introduced at the beginning of a season are far easier to kill off than established ones.  The Mountain has to live, so that he can fight The Hound later...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 05:58:33 PM
I wouldn't get too excited.  Oberyn's a dead man.  One of the laws of TV series is that characters introduced at the beginning of a season are far easier to kill off than established ones.  The Mountain has to live, so that he can fight The Hound later...

This series doesn't seem to care much for the "laws of TV series."
If they follow the books, which I think they kind of have to with this particular scene, I already know what happens.

Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2014, 06:02:23 PM
This series doesn't seem to care much for the "laws of TV series."
If they follow the books, which I think they kind of have to with this particular scene, I already know what happens.


Aww man- tell me!  Am I right ? 

They can't kill Tyrion- he's the only American cast member and my favorite character.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: kburjr on June 01, 2014, 06:07:22 PM
If you want great fiction, Cosmos is on tonight.  The Global Warning episode.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 06:12:37 PM
Aww man- tell me!  Am I right ? 

They can't kill Tyrion- he's the only American cast member and my favorite character.

If you really wanna know, tell me and I'll pm you.
I won't post it.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 01, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
Everybody dies, the End.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 06:28:33 PM
You just hush!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2014, 06:53:44 PM
If you really wanna know, tell me and I'll pm you.
I won't post it.
Nah, I'll wait.  My wife'll kill me if she finds out I knew and didn't tell her.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 07:16:25 PM
Nah, I'll wait.  My wife'll kill me if she finds out I knew and didn't tell her.

I was hoping you'd say no.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2014, 08:58:36 PM
Best episode this season.  The hottest woman in the show gets naked and there's a great battle to decide Tyrion's fate- I couldn't have predicted the outcome.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 01, 2014, 09:00:33 PM
Best episode this season.  The hottest woman in the show gets naked
Link?

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and there's a great battle to decide Tyrion's fate- I couldn't have predicted the outcome.
What was the outcome?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 01, 2014, 09:01:52 PM
Rick and Morty time!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 09:05:22 PM
Best episode this season.  The hottest woman in the show gets naked and there's a great battle to decide Tyrion's fate- I couldn't have predicted the outcome.

They did a very good job of it, imo.
There are two more episodes left.
Let me know after the last two if you still think this was the best episode.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2014, 09:33:50 PM
Link?
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/mobo_awards_200907/mobo_awards_6_22_wenn1583664.jpg

Only naked.  Great ass too.
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What was the outcome?
Someone died.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 01, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/mobo_awards_200907/mobo_awards_6_22_wenn1583664.jpg

Only naked.  Great ass too.
Day-um.  I still the the chick with the white hair is the hottest I've seen

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Someone died.
Who died?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
For Kipp and Famous...

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a7/2b/91/a72b9156771a53950de15507f8999f47.jpg)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
For Kipp and Famous...

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a7/2b/91/a72b9156771a53950de15507f8999f47.jpg)
Meh.  I've seen 'em both naked now, and I'd pick the frizzy-haired one every time.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 10:58:07 PM
Meh.  I've seen 'em both naked now, and I'd pick the frizzy-haired one every time.

Fine...and here I was, trying to be nice, for once.
Anyway, if I posted nekkid pictures of them, I'd get in trouble.


Wait.
Are you trying to get me banned?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2014, 11:02:22 PM
Fine...and here I was, trying to be nice, for once.
Anyway, if I posted nekkid pictures of them, I'd get in trouble.


Wait.
Are you trying to get me banned?
The Intronet is an amazing magical box, but I don't think her nekkid pics will have been uploaded there yet.  :(
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2014, 11:05:49 PM
The Intronet is an amazing magical box, but I don't think her nekkid pics will have been uploaded there yet.  :(

I don't think it's coincidence you used "amazing magical box" and "nekkid pics" in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 01, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
The Intronet is an amazing magical box, but I don't think her nekkid pics will have been uploaded there yet.  :(
Think again
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Tom Ace on June 02, 2014, 08:30:05 AM
Best episode this season.  The hottest woman in the show gets naked

Wait, really?  I never thought of her as anything special. 

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and there's a great battle to decide Tyrion's fate- I couldn't have predicted the outcome.

Are we doing spoilers, or is this thread supposed to be spoiler-free?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 09:01:13 AM
Wait, really?  I never thought of her as anything special. 
So far, she's the best I've seen.

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Are we doing spoilers, or is this thread supposed to be spoiler-free?
I didn't post any spoiler, did I ?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Tom Ace on June 02, 2014, 09:03:16 AM
I didn't post any spoiler, did I ?

No, that's why I was asking.  I was going to talk about specifics, but wanted to check first.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 09:05:34 AM
No, that's why I was asking.  I was going to talk about specifics, but wanted to check first.
Its a matter of courtesy, I wouldn't, at least for a few days.  A lot of people won't have seen the episode yet, but plan to this week.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Tom Ace on June 02, 2014, 09:14:43 AM
Its a matter of courtesy, I wouldn't, at least for a few days.  A lot of people won't have seen the episode yet, but plan to this week.

Yeah, I just didn't know whether this was supposed to be for people who have seen it, so that if you haven't, don't come here.  I usually don't check this thread because I haven't seen the episode, but this time I watched it last night.  Anyway, I can't believe Mace Windu and his Jedis landed and slaughtered all the Lannisters.  Definitely wasn't expecting that!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: B_lake on June 02, 2014, 09:22:01 AM
Meh.  I've seen 'em both naked now, and I'd pick the frizzy-haired one every time.

I googled pics...That frizzy haired chick is hawt!!!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 09:23:08 AM
Yeah, I just didn't know whether this was supposed to be for people who have seen it, so that if you haven't, don't come here.  I usually don't check this thread because I haven't seen the episode, but this time I watched it last night.  Anyway, I can't believe Mace Windu and his Jedis landed and slaughtered all the Lannisters.  Definitely wasn't expecting that!
Kipp will be sobbing.  Though Bronn and Mr. Spock did get to bang the triple-breasted whore from Mars.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 02, 2014, 10:08:58 AM
Its a matter of courtesy, I wouldn't, at least for a few days.  A lot of people won't have seen the episode yet, but plan to this week.
That's why you put in big, bold letters "spoiler alert" a big space and then whatever it was.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 10:11:25 AM
That's why you put in big, bold letters "spoiler alert" a big space and then whatever it was.
That's okay.  I don't feel the need to spoil it for everyone.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: B_lake on June 02, 2014, 10:18:16 AM
We could use a "spoiler alert" button...It'll hide the text under it until you click on it...

Make it happen, Fogster...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: SithEvolution on June 02, 2014, 10:20:26 AM
Best episode this season.  The hottest woman in the show gets naked and there's a great battle to decide Tyrion's fate- I couldn't have predicted the outcome.
Still haven't watched it but I wouldn't object to seeing either of them naked.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: SithEvolution on June 02, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
I googled pics...That frizzy haired chick is hawt!!!
I don't know their names to google them........sniffle sniffle!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 10:23:34 AM
Still haven't watched it but I wouldn't object to seeing either of them naked.
I'll assume you didn't mean Tyrion. :)

Whatserface-Denarys won't get naked again, as the actress now refuses, but you can see plenty of it in season 1-2.  She kind of has little-girl body though.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: SithEvolution on June 02, 2014, 10:26:15 AM
I'll assume you didn't mean Tyrion. :)

Whatserface-Denarys won't get naked again, as the actress now refuses, but you can see plenty of it in season 1-2.  She kind of has little-girl body though.
Not sure who Tyrion is but I'm getting a sense that it's either a guy or a very butchy chick.
 No I meant the two chicks in the pic.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: B_lake on June 02, 2014, 10:26:45 AM
I don't know their names to google them........sniffle sniffle!

"Black chick Game of Thrones" gave me her name...I've already forgotten it though..
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 10:28:06 AM
"Black chick Game of Thrones" gave me her name...I've already forgotten it though..
Nathalie something.  Though not the white one almost-queen with the weird smirk.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: B_lake on June 02, 2014, 10:30:16 AM
Nathalie Emmanuel

Great ass!!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 10:33:53 AM
Nathalie Emmanuel

Great ass!!
I thought so.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: SithEvolution on June 02, 2014, 10:35:08 AM
"Black chick Game of Thrones" gave me her name...I've already forgotten it though..
She is very pretty. Wanted to see her in normal clothes.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 11:03:02 AM
Yeah, I just didn't know whether this was supposed to be for people who have seen it, so that if you haven't, don't come here.  I usually don't check this thread because I haven't seen the episode, but this time I watched it last night.  Anyway, I can't believe Mace Windu and his Jedis landed and slaughtered all the Lannisters.  Definitely wasn't expecting that!

You mean the Ironborn don't you?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 11:04:09 AM
Not sure who Tyrion is but I'm getting a sense that it's either a guy or a very butchy chick.
 No I meant the two chicks in the pic.

Tyrion is the best character in the whole book and show.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 12:21:22 PM
My thoughts on spoilers:

I have no problem with spoilers being posted here, but I like Famous' idea of waiting a few days.  Especially with an episode like this, it would be a bummer to know what happens, if you didn't want to.

I'll go and put "spoiler alert" in the title of the thread...maybe Wednesday?

I don't think they're airing season 4 in Australia, yet, and I know oz is into the show.  I'll probably also make a "spoiler alert" post in obnoxiously large font, so anyone reading through the thread who hasn't noticed the change in the title will not be caught unaware.

If anyone else had read the books, let's just try and keep our moufs shut so we don't give anything away for those who are only watching the show.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Tom Ace on June 02, 2014, 12:32:22 PM
My thoughts on spoilers:

I have no problem with spoilers being posted here, but I like Famous' idea of waiting a few days.  Especially with an episode like this, it would be a bummer to know what happens, if you didn't want to.

I'll go and put "spoiler alert" in the title of the thread...maybe Wednesday?

I don't think they're airing season 4 in Australia, yet, and I know oz is into the show.  I'll probably also make a "spoiler alert" post in obnoxiously large font, so anyone reading through the thread who hasn't noticed the change in the title will not be caught unaware.

That's fine.  As I said, I had assumed this was a spoiler-friendly zone, which is why I avoided it most weeks, since I hadn't yet watched the episodes.  But adding a big "spoiler alert" to the title would make it easily clear enough.

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If anyone else had read the books, let's just try and keep our moufs shut so we don't give anything away for those who are only watching the show.

Yes, please.  I know it must be extremely tough at times, but when in doubt, don't say it, or at least preface it with "book spoilers" or something.  I'm not all that strict with wanting to not know anything, but it's nice to avoid what I can.  Not you necessarily, but I've seen quite a few people elsewhere who like to show off their knowledge and how cool they are with vague or cryptic comments. 
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 02, 2014, 12:32:44 PM
If anyone else had read the books, let's just try and keep our moufs shut so we don't give anything away for those who are only watching the show.

Those just watching the show are lazy cretins that don't deserve such consideration. Pick up a book people.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 12:37:41 PM
Those just watching the show are lazy cretins that don't deserve such consideration. Pick up a book people.
It's not exactly unreadable stuff, Sol, but it takes a considerable force of will to wade through those books.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: SithEvolution on June 02, 2014, 12:45:00 PM
Those just watching the show are lazy cretins that don't deserve such consideration. Pick up a book people.
Are audio books acceptable?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 12:47:27 PM
That's fine.  As I said, I had assumed this was a spoiler-friendly zone, which is why I avoided it most weeks, since I hadn't yet watched the episodes.  But adding a big "spoiler alert" to the title would make it easily clear enough.

Yes, please.  I know it must be extremely tough at times, but when in doubt, don't say it, or at least preface it with "book spoilers" or something.  I'm not all that strict with wanting to not know anything, but it's nice to avoid what I can.  Not you necessarily, but I've seen quite a few people elsewhere who like to show off their knowledge and how cool they are with vague or cryptic comments. 

I will only say this in terms of this season and the books...don't worry, no spoilers:

I had wondered if they would end season 4 where Book 3 ends, at least in terms of the story in certain locations.  It looks like that's exactly what they're going to do.  I will say with the way Book 3 ended, I almost dropped the book...I mean literally, on the ground, I was so...holy shit.
The last two episodes of this season should be phenomenal!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 12:50:47 PM
Those just watching the show are lazy cretins that don't deserve such consideration. Pick up a book people.

It's not exactly unreadable stuff, Sol, but it takes a considerable force of will to wade through those books.

I couldn't put the books down, once I picked them up, but to be fair, just to get through the first 3 books is, like, 2500+ pages.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
(http://brokenforum.com/index.php?attachments/west-jpg.59363/)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 02, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
I couldn't put the books down, once I picked them up, but to be fair, just to get through the first 3 books is, like, 2500+ pages.

I read and comprehend extremely fast, so I got no bloody sympathy.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: SithEvolution on June 02, 2014, 01:41:19 PM
I read and comprehend extremely fast, so I got no bloody sympathy.
Sol reading Game of Thrones
(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608052517568710472&pid=15.1)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 02, 2014, 01:45:01 PM
Sol reading Game of Thrones
(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608052517568710472&pid=15.1)

Tiamat reading.
(http://yourstory.com//wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DSC_0628-copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: SithEvolution on June 02, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
 LOL.......what the F@ck is with the dress. You fantasizing about me again?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 01:50:15 PM
(http://brokenforum.com/index.php?attachments/west-jpg.59363/)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
^^^^^^^
Scuzz and I are discussing stuff from the books, but don't want to ruin it for anyone else. blitz1
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
I can see reading the first three books fast, but the fourth book really drags and GRRM just seems to wander and create additional characters in books 4-5.

I fully expect the series (books) to never be completed. The HBO series will surpass GRRM's writing and will follow either his direction or will create their own "approved" ending. GRRM has said as much.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
^^^^^^^
Scuzz and I are discussing stuff from the books, but don't want to ruin it for anyone else. blitz1

I have tried to be careful to only hint at stuff and to not spoil anything for the viewer.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Tom Ace on June 02, 2014, 03:08:42 PM
Those just watching the show are lazy cretins that don't deserve such consideration. Pick up a book people.

I read the first two before I realized I was reading almost 1,000 pages to get 200-300 pages worth of actual plot.  I like character and world development and all, but they're a bit ridiculous.  It works much better as a TV show.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 03:11:33 PM
I read the first two before I realized I was reading almost 1,000 pages to get 200-300 pages worth of actual plot.  I like character and world development and all, but they're a bit ridiculous.  It works much better as a TV show.

As I said above the first 3 are the good ones. The fourth is 1,000 pages of "meh".
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 03:14:18 PM
I read the first two before I realized I was reading almost 1,000 pages to get 200-300 pages worth of actual plot.  I like character and world development and all, but they're a bit ridiculous.  It works much better as a TV show.

I certainly like what they've done with the show,
But I don't agree it works better as a show.
As with all novels adapted to screen, whether tv or film, much is lost in the adaptation.
Liberties are also taken, and some of the departures from the plots in the book haven't worked for me.
Moreover, a lot of character development is lost.
One of the things I enjoyed most about the books is getting more insight into certain characters...especially Jamie and the Hound.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: kburjr on June 02, 2014, 03:17:24 PM
I haven't read it yet and probably won't for a long time(too much on my reading list now). However, iy sounds a lot like The Earth Children Series. The first 3 books were excellent and then it seemed more and more like just putting words on paper to keep the royalties coming in.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
As I said above the first 3 are the good ones. The fourth is 1,000 pages of "meh".

I wouldn't call it "meh," but I'll agree the fourth book dragged on a bit.
I think that's partially because he only focused on what was going on in parts of the story, and left what was going on in the other parts of the story for the next book.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 03:19:32 PM
I wouldn't call it "meh," but I'll agree the fourth book dragged on a bit.
I think that's partially because he only focused on what was going on in parts of the story, and left what was going on in the other parts of the story for the next book.

He did 1,000 pages that involved mostly characters that nobody cared about. In book 5 he goes back to the more interesting characters. At some point in the next two books he has to do something with all those characters except just killing them off.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 03:24:27 PM
He did 1,000 pages that involved mostly characters that nobody cared about. In book 5 he goes back to the more interesting characters. At some point in the next two books he has to do something with all those characters except just killing them off.

I was certainly more interested in most of the characters on which he focused in Book 5, but I figure all of it is important, and will all (hopefully) come together in the next 2 books...if we ever get them.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 02, 2014, 03:30:43 PM
As I said above the first 3 are the good ones. The fourth is 1,000 pages of "meh".
A Game of Thrones -    A
A Clash of Kings -     B
A Storm of Swords -    A+
A Feast for Crows -    C-
A Dance with Dragons - B-
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 04:13:06 PM
A Game of Thrones -    A
A Clash of Kings -     B
A Storm of Swords -    A+
A Feast for Crows -    C-
A Dance with Dragons - B-

I wouldn't argue with those grades.

I have read that some people think the HBO show in parts is in the 5th book. Such as the Sansa storyline.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Cali Cat on June 02, 2014, 04:17:18 PM
I wouldn't argue with those grades.

I have read that some people think the HBO show in parts is in the 5th book. Such as the Sansa storyline.

I'm not sure if it's Book 5, or not, I read them so quickly there are some things I can't remember in which book they happened.  I do know they are in different books with different story lines, though.  The King's Landing story line is still in book 3, although some of the others are in at least Book 4, and some of them are starting to depart from the books enough, I don't know where they're going with them.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 02, 2014, 05:38:05 PM
Valar Morghulis, indeed. towl

(http://liaklienad.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/jack.jpg)


Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 02, 2014, 05:38:53 PM
Penny Dreadful - B+
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Tom Ace on June 02, 2014, 06:58:08 PM
I certainly like what they've done with the show,
But I don't agree it works better as a show.
As with all novels adapted to screen, whether tv or film, much is lost in the adaptation.
Liberties are also taken, and some of the departures from the plots in the book haven't worked for me.
Moreover, a lot of character development is lost.
One of the things I enjoyed most about the books is getting more insight into certain characters...especially Jamie and the Hound.

That's the thing.  I think the stuff that's lost is good.  Character development is great, but there has to be a balance.  1,000 pages where 700 are character development is way off balance, in my opinion.

Also, it's how long storylines get dragged out.  POSSIBLE MILD SPOILERS.  The very first scene in the series is an introduction to the white walkers, but after almost 3,000 pages, that storyline has barely progressed at all.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2014, 06:59:45 PM
I read the first two before I realized I was reading almost 1,000 pages to get 200-300 pages worth of actual plot.  I like character and world development and all, but they're a bit ridiculous.  It works much better as a TV show.
^This. 
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Scuzz on June 02, 2014, 07:00:02 PM
That's the thing.  I think the stuff that's lost is good.  Character development is great, but there has to be a balance.  1,000 pages where 700 are character development is way off balance, in my opinion.

Also, it's how long storylines get dragged out.  POSSIBLE MILD SPOILERS.  The very first scene in the series is an introduction to the white walkers, but after almost 3,000 pages, that storyline has barely progressed at all.

After book 5 they have barely progressed that story line. In fact the TV show is ahead of the books as far as white walkers go.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2014, 09:53:32 PM
So my friend, who watches the show, shot me an email with a web-comic of this fight that happened in this past episode.  It was ho-hum until the end.  I'm thinking, no way they did that in the show, with his brains splooshing out and shit.  So I pulled it up on youtube.  Goddamn.  Anyone got a way I can start this show from the beginning without paying out my ass?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 03, 2014, 11:30:27 PM
So my friend, who watches the show, shot me an email with a web-comic of this fight that happened in this past episode.  It was ho-hum until the end.  I'm thinking, no way they did that in the show, with his brains splooshing out and chit.  So I pulled it up on youtube.  Goddamn.  Anyone got a way I can start this show from the beginning without paying out my ass?
BitTorrent.

Don't trust web-comics. 
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2014, 11:33:34 PM
BitTorrent.
I never get those to work.

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Don't trust web-comics. 
Well this one was almost exactly like the video of the fight from the show. 

That was gruesome.  Does that kinda shit happen a lot?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 03, 2014, 11:38:14 PM
I never get those to work.
At this point, there's no other real option, except to get DVDs of the first 3 seasons- maybe $60 on eBay, and DVR the rest. 

It's easy.  Let me know if you need help setting it up.

Quote
Well this one was almost exactly like the video of the fight from the show. 
There's just too much in the way of fine acting and stylized sequences to compress into even the best web comics have to offer.

Quote
That was gruesome.  Does that kinda chit happen a lot?
This season, quite a bit.  Lots of blades through the eyes, lopping off of heads and what The Mountain did.  Joffrey's death was about a  C+ by comparison.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 03, 2014, 11:43:16 PM
Do you have Comcast, Kipp?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
It's easy.  Let me know if you need help setting it up.
Cool.  Won't be tonight.
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There's just too much in the way of fine acting and stylized sequences to compress into even the best web comics have to offer.
Well, yeah, there is no acting in a comic of any sort.  The art was pretty good though.  But yeah, a lot more can be conveyed in a movie/TV show than a comic.
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This season, quite a bit.  Lots of blades through the eyes, lopping off of heads and what The Mountain did.  Joffrey's death was about a  C+ by comparison.
I've seen a lot of violent shit in movies and TV over the years, but that was one of the more graphic ones I've seen, even though you didn't see the actual "pop." 
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2014, 11:43:56 PM
Also, i don't know who joffrey is and thanks for the spoiler, dick.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2014, 11:44:11 PM
Do you have Comcast, Kipp?
Direct TV.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 03, 2014, 11:47:26 PM
Also, i don't know who joffrey is and thanks for the spoiler, dick.

Did you notice where Spoiler alert suddenly showed up in the title?
Hahaha...

Direct TV.

Oh.  Well, on Comcast, you can get a premium channel for $10 a month.
At least out here, you can cancel it after a month...or two...or whenever you want.
In essence, you could get HBO for a month or two and watch all the seasons On Demand, then cancel.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2014, 11:51:31 PM
Did you notice where Spoiler alert suddenly showed up in the title?
Hahaha...
Yeah. after his post.

Quote
Oh.  Well, on Comcast, you can get a premium channel for $10 a month.
At least out here, you can cancel it after a month...or two...or whenever you want.
In essence, you could get HBO for a month or two and watch all the seasons On Demand, then cancel.
May have to look into doing that, but I'll try BitTorrent first.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 03, 2014, 11:53:15 PM
Yeah. after his post.


Sorry, I forgot to re-calibrate my mind-readometer.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 03, 2014, 11:54:49 PM
Won't be tonight.
Well let me know.  Not hard.

Quote
I've seen a lot of violent chit in movies and TV over the years, but that was one of the more graphic ones I've seen, even though you didn't see the actual "pop." 
The whole series is fairly bloodthirsty, with new & inventive ways for characters to die like it was some sort of elaborate Spy vs. Spy.  That end completely surprised me.  I ended up half-right, but never guessed it would be a double-KO, or that The Mountain would do that.

Also, i don't know who joffrey is and thanks for the spoiler, dick.
It'd been talked about, laughed about, and anticipated for some time.


Oh.  Well, on Comcast, you can get a premium channel for $10 a month.
At least out here, you can cancel it after a month...or two...or whenever you want.
In essence, you could get HBO for a month or two and watch all the seasons On Demand, then cancel.
The problem is, HBO is a bastard-man and never allows more than 1 previous season of any premium original show.  At least in my experience.  It's like they're forcing you to buy the damned box set.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2014, 11:56:04 PM
Sorry, I forgot to re-calibrate my mind-readometer.
[/quoteOh you're fine, but he should have added a warning in his post.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 03, 2014, 11:58:55 PM
Well let me know.  Not hard.
The whole series is fairly bloodthirsty, with new & inventive ways for characters to die like it was some sort of elaborate Spy vs. Spy.  That end completely surprised me.  I ended up half-right, but never guessed it would be a double-KO, or that The Mountain would do that.
It'd been talked about, laughed about, and anticipated for some time.

The problem is, HBO is a bastard-man and never allows more than 1 previous season of any premium original show.  At least in my experience.  It's like they're forcing you to buy the damned box set.

HBO has every episode of every season available On Demand, right now.
In fact, they loaded most of their great series on to On Demand until, I think, at least the end of the year...
You can see every episode of every season of shows like the Sopranos, Deadwood, Rome, Six Feet Under...




Damn, I sound like a commercial. facepalm
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 04, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
There is now talk of the series going to 8 books, supposedly the publisher likes the idea. Fuck those bassturds.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Tom Ace on June 04, 2014, 11:35:04 AM
There is now talk of the series going to 8 books, supposedly the publisher likes the idea. F*** those bassturds.

It seems to me they're giving him too much leeway.  On this thread and elsewhere, I've heard a lot of criticism saying that the series takes a downward turn after book 3, and it seems like that's when Martin got more and more freedom.  It seems like he's someone who needs some reigning in to keep his work at its best, but now that he's so popular, they're afraid to restrict him too much. 

Or that could be completely inaccurate.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 04, 2014, 11:37:21 AM
They see $$$ signs when they look at his books. Of course, he needs to live long enough to finish them since he averages about 5 years between books.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Misterfamous on June 04, 2014, 12:06:20 PM
HBO has every episode of every season available On Demand, right now.
In fact, they loaded most of their great series on to On Demand until, I think, at least the end of the year...
You can see every episode of every season of shows like the Sopranos, Deadwood, Rome, Six Feet Under...
That is incorrect.  For most cable providers, including my own, you get only the previous season and whatever fraction of the present season is going on.  I checked mine last night, and there is only Season 3 of GoT (+ this season) and only Season 6 of True Blood.  No Sopranos.  Your cable provider is different, but generally HBO doesn't like to leave every episode of every series available for years afterward.  If that was the case, I probably would've been watching tons of old Dream On episodes.


It seems to me they're giving him too much leeway.  On this thread and elsewhere, I've heard a lot of criticism saying that the series takes a downward turn after book 3, and it seems like that's when Martin got more and more freedom.  It seems like he's someone who needs some reigning in to keep his work at its best, but now that he's so popular, they're afraid to restrict him too much. 

Or that could be completely inaccurate.
No, sounds right to me.  HBO has gotten what it needs out of him- they can move the series to an a new direction / closure, if they have to.  The books' publisher probably just has concerns that the fat guy might kick the bucket before they reap the next boatload of profit.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: CHASER on June 04, 2014, 12:16:09 PM
I don't have HBO but managed to basically see the whole series because most of the hotels I stay in have multiple HBO channels and play it constantly.

Show time has 'On Demand'. Doesn't HBO have "HBO GO'?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 04, 2014, 12:17:55 PM
That is incorrect.  For most cable providers, including my own, you get only the previous season and whatever fraction of the present season is going on.  I checked mine last night, and there is only Season 3 of GoT (+ this season) and only Season 6 of True Blood.  No Sopranos.  Your cable provider is different, but generally HBO doesn't like to leave every episode of every series available for years afterward.  If that was the case, I probably would've been watching tons of old Dream On episodes.

I guess HBO on Comcast out here is different, then.
Usually, they don't have every episode of every season of whatever show, like you said, but they do, at present.  I've been re-watching a few of them.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 04, 2014, 12:40:00 PM
http://universe.suvudu.com/q-and-a/anne-groell#.U49Zk1Ot8gv

Q and A with the editor.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 06, 2014, 11:58:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3mcBTyF.jpg)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 06, 2014, 12:00:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3mcBTyF.jpg)

that's awesome!
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 06, 2014, 12:32:23 PM
Hahahahahahahaha...

Nice!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 06, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3mcBTyF.jpg)


Where is the saddle?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 06, 2014, 02:21:54 PM

Where is the saddle?

No, he rides the PIG.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 06, 2014, 03:26:15 PM
No, he rides the PIG.

dude...you gotta spoiler that stuff
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 06, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
dude...you gotta spoiler that stuff

heeheehee
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Post by: Scuzz on June 06, 2014, 04:32:59 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQc7AI0uM3eftyRMCJj8M0MgLyW2SpcJBcTeY8-VO9ypxTZ2N6h3A)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 06, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Scuzz - Do you remember the funny episode recap you posted last year?
Do you happen to recall on what site you found it?
That was some funny stuff.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis
Post by: Misterfamous on June 09, 2014, 09:02:14 AM
Another good one, last night.  The first time I can remember an entire episode being of one area / character.  They've set up the finale brilliantly.

This season was already over the quota for bloodletting, but still killed about 50-70 more guys...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 09, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Scuzz - Do you remember the funny episode recap you posted last year?
Do you happen to recall on what site you found it?
That was some funny stuff.

I will try to find it. I think I got it off another forum but I will have to look.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 09, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
Another good one, last night.  The first time I can remember an entire episode being of one area / character.  They've set up the finale brilliantly.

This season was already over the quota for bloodletting, but still killed about 50-70 more guys...

Last night, I found myself sort of wishing they hadn't spent the entire episode in one place.
However, the more I think about it, the more I realize that by doing that, they've set up next week to be...well, it should be off the charts.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 09, 2014, 01:05:02 PM
I will try to find it. I think I got it off another forum but I will have to look.

Thank you, Scuzz of the House AFR, First of his name, etc...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 09, 2014, 01:11:57 PM
Thank you, Scuzz of the House AFR, First of his name, etc...

House Scuzz's words:

Honor and bravery, are ... wait, what was I saying. I forget. Go Steelers!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Misterfamous on June 09, 2014, 01:15:22 PM
Honor and bravery, are ... wait, what was I saying. I forget. Go Steelers!

May your quarterback rape many underage girls.  Winter is coming.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 09, 2014, 01:30:58 PM
May your quarterback rape many underage girls.  Winter is coming.

House Misterfamous words:

I'm just a sweet transvestite, from transexual trannsylvania.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Misterfamous on June 09, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
House Misterfamous words:

I'm just a sweet transvestite, from transexual trannsylvania.
We did that joke last week, fat boy.  You must've been too busy chowing down at your buffet trough to notice... chic1
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Misterfamous on June 15, 2014, 09:09:31 PM
Wow- Tyrion's a badass !
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 15, 2014, 09:12:06 PM
I've been waiting for that all season.

I'm still not sure they shouldn't have spliced some of this week with some of last week...
Some...what you're referring to had to happen tonight,
But damn, that episode was a good one.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: ozpackerfan on June 16, 2014, 04:28:15 AM
After taking last week off (damn them), Game of Thrones is back.

I can't wait to see tonight's episode.
Oberyn and The Mountain finally face off.

Literally as it turned out for Oberyn...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: ozpackerfan on June 16, 2014, 04:41:35 AM
I don't think they're airing season 4 in Australia, yet, and I know oz is into the show. 

I was avoiding this thread because of the "season 4 spoiler alert thing". I thought you guys that read the books were talking about things that hadn't happened yet on TV. All good.

We were getting each episode about an hour after the west coast screening in the states - that was about 3.30pm on a Monday afternoon here. Not like when I was a kid and we had to wait 6 - 12 months to watch American TV shows, by which time everyone already knew who killed JR anyway...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: ozpackerfan on June 16, 2014, 04:53:29 AM
Wow- Tyrion's a badass !

It took a lot for him to finally snap. Push him enough and he's a cranky little bugger.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Mr. Shickadance on June 16, 2014, 07:55:11 AM
It took a lot for him to finally snap. Push him enough and he's a cranky little bugger.

So he's really...short...tempered?
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 16, 2014, 07:59:01 AM
So he's really...short...tempered?

Practicing your dad jokes already, huh?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Mr. Shickadance on June 16, 2014, 08:12:06 AM
Practicing your dad jokes already, huh?

Oh I've had this dry sense of humor for decades. It's genetic lol.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: poorbackslider on June 16, 2014, 01:04:36 PM
Anyone else wonder why they totally changed the Jaime - Tyrion exchange here?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Misterfamous on June 16, 2014, 01:09:26 PM
Anyone else wonder why they totally changed the Jaime - Tyrion exchange here?
Eh ?  From what ?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 01:19:21 PM
Anyone else wonder why they totally changed the Jaime - Tyrion exchange here?

Maybe I'm not remembering it clearly enough from the books,
But I didn't think of anything as really changed.  They shortened it, certainly,
But the change I noticed was Tyrion didn't leave the other person was helping him to go do what he did (I'm intentionally being vague, in case someone hasn't had a chance to see last night's episode, yet).
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: poorbackslider on June 16, 2014, 01:20:21 PM
From the book.  I can't find my copy of A Storm of Swords, but this site explains it all.  It is a huge difference and will change their relationship going forward.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1846673/game-of-thrones-finale-tywin-death-books/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/1846673/game-of-thrones-finale-tywin-death-books/)

EDIT: Do not read that if you haven't watched it yet!!
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
I was avoiding this thread because of the "season 4 spoiler alert thing". I thought you guys that read the books were talking about things that hadn't happened yet on TV. All good.

We were getting each episode about an hour after the west coast screening in the states - that was about 3.30pm on a Monday afternoon here. Not like when I was a kid and we had to wait 6 - 12 months to watch American TV shows, by which time everyone already knew who killed JR anyway...

For some reason I thought either HBO didn't show the new season in Australia until later (like how the US doesn't get new episodes of Downton Abbey until the whole season has been aired in Great Britain), or that you didn't have HBO and had to wait until it came out on video.

Those of us who have read the books are trying not to talk about what's going to happen.  If there ever ends up being a "those who've read the books" discussion/speculation, there would probably be a separate thread, or at least a "if you haven't read the books, don't read this" warning.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 4 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 01:33:55 PM
From the book.  I can't find my copy of A Storm of Swords, but this site explains it all.  It is a huge difference and will change their relationship going forward.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1846673/game-of-thrones-finale-tywin-death-books/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/1846673/game-of-thrones-finale-tywin-death-books/)

EDIT: Do not read that if you haven't watched it yet!!

Ah, now I see what you're talking about...and you're right.  Then again, we don't know the ultimate consequences of that exchange, so...
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Post by: poorbackslider on June 16, 2014, 01:38:07 PM
We don't know the end result, but the show made them leave on completely opposite terms...it will have a major impact or it won't make sense.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
I think some of it may be my feeling (in terms of the books) that Jamie and Tyrion aren't destined to hold hard feelings for each other (I may be out of my mind...it wouldn't be the first time).  I also see some possibility in some of that information being learned a different way...like the person who also helps Tyrion, who as we know, has ways of knowing things, passes some of it along.

Who knows...
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 16, 2014, 02:39:32 PM
I want to spoil everything for those people too lazy to read the books.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 03:16:54 PM
Of course you do.
The lil shit in me kinda wants to, too, but I won't.

See, I put off reading the books for the longest time, not out of laziness, but because I didn't want to know what was going to happen on the show.  When I finally decided, screw it, I'm readin' them, my hope was I could control myself enough to stop where the show stopped and not read beyond.  Of course, I got too caught up, and I ended up reading them all.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 16, 2014, 03:23:48 PM
Of course you do.
The lil chit in me kinda wants to, too, but I won't.

See, I put off reading the books for the longest time, not out of laziness, but because I didn't want to know what was going to happen on the show.  When I finally decided, screw it, I'm readin' them, my hope was I could control myself enough to stop where the show stopped and not read beyond.  Of course, I got too caught up, and I ended up reading them all.

Most of my reason actually has nothing to do with people not reading. My main reason is too ruin the show for as many people as possible because that fat fuck Martin should have his ass to the grindstone finishing the damn series before he spends one second on a tv show.
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Post by: Mr. Shickadance on June 16, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/dma-1113.jpg?w=550&h=891)
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 03:32:47 PM
Wow- Tyrion's a badass !

(http://smartfromtv.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/p-imp.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 03:33:45 PM
Rewinding a bit...

(http://media-saver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/4c37d860f-thrones-2.jpg?w=500&h=281)
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Post by: ozpackerfan on June 16, 2014, 03:45:23 PM
For some reason I thought either HBO didn't show the new season in Australia until later (like how the US doesn't get new episodes of Downton Abbey until the whole season has been aired in Great Britain), or that you didn't have HBO and had to wait until it came out on video.

Those of us who have read the books are trying not to talk about what's going to happen.  If there ever ends up being a "those who've read the books" discussion/speculation, there would probably be a separate thread, or at least a "if you haven't read the books, don't read this" warning.

We don't get HBO but Foxtel (unfortunately our only pay tv provider and as the name suggests 50% owned by Uncle Rupie) buys all the good shows. There's a huge outcry down here because the deal they did to get GoT was exclusive, meaning unlike most things on pay tv here, it wont show up on free to air tv a few years down the track.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 16, 2014, 04:07:23 PM
Most of my reason actually has nothing to do with people not reading. My main reason is too ruin the show for as many people as possible because that fat F*** Martin should have his ass to the grindstone finishing the damn series before he spends one second on a tv show.

Based on stuff i have read on other sites about the TV show, books and possibilities for books 6-7 I could could amaze you with what some people think is really going on.

And the show will pass up the books next year. Hell they already have with some characters. The TV show is dropping some characters (she wasn't in last night and the part she plays is bypassed by what happened).

I DVR'd the entire 4th season yesterday (thank you free HBO weekend).
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
We don't get HBO but Foxtel (unfortunately our only pay tv provider and as the name suggests 50% owned by Uncle Rupie) buys all the good shows. There's a huge outcry down here because the deal they did to get GoT was exclusive, meaning unlike most things on pay tv here, it wont show up on free to air tv a few years down the track.

I can't imagine Game of Thrones ever being aired on a regular network here...not even the non-premium cable channels.  They'd have to do so  much editing, I can't imagine there would be too much left of the show.

Anyway, it's good to know you can watch the episodes as they happen.
I'd been trying to be vague about anything from this season (I put up the spoiler alert after someone mentioned what happened to Joffrey at the beginning of the season), and now I know I don't have to be so careful.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 04:17:16 PM
Based on stuff i have read on other sites about the TV show, books and possibilities for books 6-7 I could could amaze you with what some people think is really going on.

And the show will pass up the books next year. Hell they already have with some characters. The TV show is dropping some characters (she wasn't in last night and the part she plays is bypassed by what happened).

I DVR'd the entire 4th season yesterday (thank you free HBO weekend).

Well, some of the characters are toward the end of their arc in terms of where the books now stand (particularly Sansa and Bran), but there are a lot of characters who still have a ways to go...Tyrion, Arya, stuff in King's Landing, Dorne, Jon Snow and the Wall, and some stuff with Daenerys.  Plus, with as many new characters as we're bound to see next season, specifically in Dorne and Essos, they should have enough material for a full season.  JMO

If you mean who I think you mean by "she," I thought I read somewhere she will be making an appearance, at some point.  If I'm right about who you mean, yeah, Brienne doing what she did could make that part of the story less necessary, but, again, who knows.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 16, 2014, 04:19:46 PM
I think they are reaching a point where the writers have to spend their time with characters who matter, not GRRM filler. And let's face it, there is a lot of GRRM filler.
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Post by: ozpackerfan on June 16, 2014, 04:22:16 PM
You have to keep season 5 under wraps for another 9 months. Damn the seasons are too short...

I certainly didn't pick Tyrion's storyline taking the twist it did...
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Post by: ozpackerfan on June 16, 2014, 04:24:15 PM
I can't imagine Game of Thrones ever being aired on a regular network here...not even the non-premium cable channels.  They'd have to do so  much editing, I can't imagine there would be too much left of the show.


There would be a little editing, mostly of the gore, for it to make it onto TV here but, in the right timeslot, the swearing and nudity wouldn't be much of a problem.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 16, 2014, 04:26:02 PM
I just know that fat fuck is going to die before he finishes. And I swear if he does, I'm going to find his grave and spray it with a nice diarrhea shit.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 04:27:55 PM
You have to keep season 5 under wraps for another 9 months. Damn the seasons are too short...

I certainly didn't pick Tyrion's storyline taking the twist it did...

I think I already said I'd been waiting for that all season.  When I read it in the book, I sat there slack-jawed.
I do wish they could have worked in a great line from the book (no, this won't give anything away), about how Tywin did not shit gold, after all.
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Post by: ozpackerfan on June 16, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
I think I already said I'd been waiting for that all season.  When I read it in the book, I sat there slack-jawed.
I do wish they could have worked in a great line from the book (no, this won't give anything away), about how Tywin did not chit gold, after all.

haha1
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Post by: Scuzz on June 16, 2014, 05:01:42 PM
I just know that fat F*** is going to die before he finishes. And I swear if he does, I'm going to find his grave and spray it with a nice diarrhea chit.

I tell that to every person who asks me about reading the books. I said that to Cali, but she still read them.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2014, 05:11:24 PM
I tell that to every person who asks me about reading the books. I said that to Cali, but she still read them.

I did not and do not doubt you, oh, King, it's just that, well...
My curiosity got the better of me.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 16, 2014, 06:11:06 PM
I did not and do not doubt you, oh, King, it's just that, well...
My curiosity got the better of me.

typical cat.......

some guy with a ball of yarn probably looms big in your life..am I right?
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 18, 2014, 07:57:13 PM
IF YOU HAVE NOT READ ALL THE BOOKS, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ ANY FURTHER

SPOILER ALERT


No, the title of the article won't give it away...



Sean Bean wants to return to Game of Thrones


If Game of Thrones decides to make it happen, there could be a return to Westeros in the cards for Sean Bean. But how would that be possible, with Ned Stark’s noble head removed at the end of season one?

In a new interview with Vulture, Sean Bean talks about the possibility of coming back to the show to resolve unfinished business with a few of Game of Thrones‘ main characters.

The discussion contains major spoilers explaining how Bean could appear and why, so viewers who haven’t read the books should proceed with caution!

Vulture brings up the possibility of Bean returning to appear in a flashback via the heart tree system. In A Dance with Dragons, Bran further develops his mystical abilities and is able to look into the past by connecting with the heart trees across Westeros. This includes the heart tree in the godswood at Winterfell, which his father often visited.

When connecting with the heart tree, Bran experiences a series of visions, and sees a younger version of Ned Stark praying, with his words hinting that Jon Snow isn’t his son.

Since Bran finally met the Three-Eyed Raven at the end of season four, it’s possible the show may include this scene.

Bean was enthusiastic about the idea of appearing in Bran’s flashback vision to Vulture, saying, “Oh, yeah, yeah! And I’m his father, so that would be great fun! Just to go back to that for a while, it would be such fun to do. It would be great! It would be bizarre, but it would be great! So I guess if they’re going to do flashbacks, then yeah!”

He also noted, “And that should happen, shouldn’t it? I’ve definitely got some unfinished business that needs to be resolved there. I’m obviously not Jon Snow’s dad. And you need that to be revealed at some point, don’t you? So Bran would kind of be the one having the flashback, and he would see Ned praying, right? And revealing those things? You never know what those guys are going to do with that. It’s got to be something special. But I’m into that. I certainly would be into that. Print that! Give them a nudge. Hopefully I’ll get a call soon.”
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 04:05:32 PM
Bump...just in case Scuzz feels like talking about casting.

If not, that's cool...the King will do as he pleases.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 29, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
I forget her name, which of course makes it tough for me to spoil, but one of the Dornish who plays a major part and was not cast. It appears they have cast someone (who was described as the "heir" to the Dornish throne) to perhaps cover the action of a few Dornish characters.

I have read where people call the male character incidental but if it is who I am thinking of then he is important in something that happens late in the 5th book. Also one of the characters mentioned is involved in Tyrion's journeys, which makes it look like they may accelerate that part of the books.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 04:16:46 PM
I forget her name, which of course makes it tough for me to spoil, but one of the Dornish who plays a major part and was not cast. It appears they have cast someone (who was described as the "heir" to the Dornish throne) to perhaps cover the action of a few Dornish characters.

I have read where people call the male character incidental but if it is who I am thinking of then he is important in something that happens late in the 5th book. Also one of the characters mentioned is involved in Tyrion's journeys, which makes it look like they may accelerate that part of the books.

You're talking about Arianne, and yeah, it looks like she was cut.  They listed Trystane as the heir to Dorne.  I think the one you're talking about doing something toward the end of book 5 is Quentyn.  Given how that turns out, they could have someone else do that...maybe with the same result, maybe not.

The one you're talking about in Tyrion's journey, yeah, from what I've read, people are flipping out that maybe he's been cut, too.  I think, if he's in, that will be something they keep as under wraps as they possibly can...and even if something did leak out about it, it would not point to who he is.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 29, 2014, 04:34:56 PM
I tried to watch the video of the cast at Comic Con, it is available in two parts on youtube, but i couldn't do it. Too much BS, but it was interesting seeing what so many members of the cast looked like in "regular" clothes.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 04:42:11 PM
I tried to watch the video of the cast at Comic Con, it is available in two parts on youtube, but i couldn't do it. Too much BS, but it was interesting seeing what so many members of the cast looked like in "regular" clothes.

I watched some of it, and also thought there was just too much extraneous stuff to want to watch the whole thing.
It was definitely a trip seeing some of them as just regular people...especially The Hound and Brienne.

If you get bored, or just want to geek-out, check out watchersonthewall.com.  It was just started by some folks who had another site, but something happened there...I know not what.  Anyway, they have some kind of interesting articles.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 29, 2014, 04:53:38 PM
Have you seen this site? Nice site to check on things you might have forgotten about.


http://towerofthehand.com/books/guide.html
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 04:56:44 PM
Have you seen this site? Nice site to check on things you might have forgotten about.


http://towerofthehand.com/books/guide.html

No, I hadn't.  Thanks!
I'm not sure why the site I told you about didn't automatically link.
Lemme try, again... http://watchersonthewall.com/
Btw - I just checked and it was the writers from WinterIsComing.net who started the new site.
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Post by: Misterfamous on July 29, 2014, 04:57:17 PM
Cali, who gets naked next season, and will it be Missandei ?  I don't ask for me, you understand, but a friend...
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Post by: Scuzz on July 29, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Cali, who gets naked next season, and will it be Missandei ?  I don't ask for me, you understand, but a friend...

She should be done get naked. The actress who plays Dany has said she is done getting naked, although based on the books she still has lots of opportunities. I am sure you can count on the assorted prostitutes getting naked for whoever they want to drop into that.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 05:04:00 PM
Cali, who gets naked next season, and will it be Missandei ?  I don't ask for me, you understand, but a friend...

Hahaha.
Well, if Missandei gets nekkid, again, book readers wouldn't know about it.  In the books she's a child, but they made her a woman for the TV show.
At least one of the Sand Snakes will be getting nekkid, and since there will be an emphasis on Dorne, I'd guess in addition to at least one of the Sand Snakes, there will be lots of random nudity.
There is also another huge nekkid scene, but I can't tell you about it, because it's...well, I just can't tell you about it.  It would spoil a big story-line.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 05:05:23 PM
She should be done get naked. The actress who plays Dany has said she is done getting naked, although based on the books she still has lots of opportunities. I am sure you can count on the assorted prostitutes getting naked for whoever they want to drop into that.

I wouldn't mind seeing more nekkid Daario...really nice ass!!!
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Post by: Misterfamous on July 29, 2014, 05:13:18 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing more nekkid Daario...really nice ass!!!
Which one ?  Didn't the actor change, and the Fabio-looking guy is gone ?
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 05:15:50 PM
Which one ?  Didn't the actor change, and the Fabio-looking guy is gone ?

Yes, the Fabio-looking guy is gone...thank gawd.
I meant the new one...the one who showed his really nice ass last season.

I thought he was kinda cute in Treme, but they didn't show his really nice ass in that.

Did I mention he has a really nice ass? :)
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Post by: Misterfamous on July 29, 2014, 05:17:00 PM

There is also another huge nekkid scene, but I can't tell you about it, because it's...well, I just can't tell you about it.  It would spoil a big story-line.
That's okay, just use the spoiler button.  Anyway, Kipp will understand; spoil away.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 05:22:10 PM
That's okay, just use the spoiler button.  Anyway, Kipp will understand; spoil away.

Nope, not gonna do it.
Not only has Kipp not gotten to that part in the books, I'd guess, but there's oz and maybe others to consider.  Anyway, even you don't want to know, as it would tip-off where kind of more than one character's story is going...and it won't happen until toward the end of the season, anyway.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 29, 2014, 05:32:15 PM
Nope, not gonna do it.
Not only has Kipp not gotten to that part in the books, I'd guess, but there's oz and maybe others to consider.  Anyway, even you don't want to know, as it would tip-off where kind of more than one character's story is going...and it won't happen until toward the end of the season, anyway.

I wonder how they will show that.

I just watched the opening of the 4th season and while I knew who Daario was it took me a few minutes to realize the actor had changed. I probably would have recognized his ass had they shown it.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 05:36:32 PM
I wonder how they will show that.


It sounds like they're just going for it...basically all of it.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 29, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
http://vimeo.com/100095868 (http://vimeo.com/100095868)


I don't always succeed in getting videos to load but this is an interesting little video showing scenes from the show and how they CGI'd them to get the look they wanted.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 29, 2014, 05:57:27 PM
http://vimeo.com/100095868 (http://vimeo.com/100095868)


I don't always succeed in getting videos to load but this is an interesting little video showing scenes from the show and how they CGI'd them to get the look they wanted.

Dayum!  That was cool as hell.
Thanks.
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Post by: Scuzz on September 05, 2014, 10:52:18 AM
(http://gameofthrones.me.uk/images/what-could-be-worse-than-joffrey_largethumb_f3b8b18ce13e52ac1240692ebb52e1cd.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
Hahaha.

So, I apologize for the picture being so large, but I saw this set picture and, well... wiggle

(http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/duilovoset1.jpg)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on September 05, 2014, 12:45:17 PM
That must be from a part I haven't gotten to yet
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 01:02:38 PM
Yeah, it doesn't show up until the 4th book, but it's one of my favorite parts from one of my favorite character's story-lines, and I am beyond psyched it is going to be a part of the upcoming season.
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Post by: Scuzz on September 05, 2014, 01:09:24 PM
Yeah, it doesn't show up until the 4th book, but it's one of my favorite parts from one of my favorite character's story-lines, and I am beyond psyched it is going to be a part of the upcoming season.

Is that a certain place in a certain city...? Okay, I don't know what that is.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
Is that a certain place in a certain city...? Okay, I don't know what that is.

Yes, in fact, it is a certain place in a certain city.

I don't think this could be considered a spoiler, because if someone hasn't read the books, or hasn't gotten to that part, yet, they wouldn't know what the hell it meant, anyway, so...

It is the House of Black and White. blitz1
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Post by: Scuzz on September 05, 2014, 04:28:59 PM
Yes, in fact, it is a certain place in a certain city.

I don't think this could be considered a spoiler, because if someone hasn't read the books, or hasn't gotten to that part, yet, they wouldn't know what the hell it meant, anyway, so...

It is the House of Black and White. blitz1

That is what I thought it was. That is a story line I like.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
That is what I thought it was. That is a story line I like.

I figured the doors would be a pretty clear indication.
I. Can't. Wait.
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Post by: Scuzz on September 05, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
I watched season 4 episode 8 last night. The episode Tyrion finds a challenger. The guy who plays the Viper is great, and


SPOILER


I am going to really miss the way things are after this season in Kings Landing. The actors operating in that part of the show are really good.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
I watched season 4 episode 8 last night. The episode Tyrion finds a challenger. The guy who plays the Viper is great, and


SPOILER


I am going to really miss the way things are after this season in Kings Landing. The actors operating in that part of the show are really good.

I forget that you may not have seen all the aired episodes, yet.  So, you haven't seen the Mountain and the Viper fight?

The last two episodes of the season were great, imo, especially the season finale.
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Post by: Scuzz on September 05, 2014, 05:02:27 PM
I forget that you may not have seen all the aired episodes, yet.  So, you haven't seen the Mountain and the Viper fight?

The last two episodes of the season were great, imo, especially the season finale.

I have seen it from You Tube I think, but it is the next episode in line for me to see.

When do they air the new season, what month? We are looking to change cable services and some offer three months of free HBO. I might try to talk the wife into timing it so that I can watch the next season "in real time".
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 05:11:36 PM
I was asking about the fight because you said you'd just watched episode 8.  I'm pretty sure what you just watched was episode 7...not that it really matters...I was just a lil confused (like that's unusual).

The new seasons tend to start around the beginning of April.  I don't know what you're looking for in terms of cable service, but when I moved, I moved my comcast cable, and switched my internet service over to Comcast, because ATT UVerse made such a mess of things.  Anyway, when I did that, they gave me 2 free years of HBO.  I tell you that to say...spend some time shopping around, you may find other, similar deals...at least ones that are longer than 3 months free.
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Post by: Scuzz on September 05, 2014, 05:35:49 PM
I watched episode 7, the fight is in episode 8. 10 per year, right?

We have U-verse, have had for 4-6 years. Anyway they have jumped their rates, will not do the re-negotiating thing as in the past and my wife refuses to pay what they want. Right now it is between Comcast and Direct TV. Only catch with Direct is they don't bundle so while with some homework we could probably get a pretty cheap combo of TV, phone and internet I don't know if she is willing to do that much work. Yea, her, I hate doing business on the phone with people like that. She doesn't mind.

I think they may both offer 3 months free HBO with a 2-year contract.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 05:56:21 PM
I watched episode 7, the fight is in episode 8. 10 per year, right?

We have U-verse, have had for 4-6 years. Anyway they have jumped their rates, will not do the re-negotiating thing as in the past and my wife refuses to pay what they want. Right now it is between Comcast and Direct TV. Only catch with Direct is they don't bundle so while with some homework we could probably get a pretty cheap combo of TV, phone and internet I don't know if she is willing to do that much work. Yea, her, I hate doing business on the phone with people like that. She doesn't mind.

I think they may both offer 3 months free HBO with a 2-year contract.

Yes, 10 episodes per season.
What I have with Comcast is only internet and tv, but that's how I ended up with 2 free years of HBO.  Also, at least here, you can get a premium channel for $10 a month with no minimum, so if all else failed, you could always get HBO for 3 months to watch the season, then cancel it, and you'd only be out $30.
Suggest to your wife that if she does talk to Comcast, that she explains she is currently a UVerse customer, is dissatisfied with them, and is interested in possibly switching, depending on what Comcast can offer her.  I may be crazy (ok, well, we know I am, but I mean about this, specifically), but I swear when you go that route with them, they work a lot harder to get you the best deal possible.
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Post by: Scuzz on September 05, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
(http://cs616630.vk.me/v616630418/1e574/KeUziBiU6cc.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 05, 2014, 06:11:38 PM
:)
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 19, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
It looks like Varys, Littlefinger, and Roose Bolton had the munchies, one night...


(http://www.gameofthronesfan.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/20/sad-littlefinger-is-what-game-of-thrones-not-being-back-until-2015-looks-like/littlefinger-ice-cream.jpg)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on September 25, 2014, 09:00:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/AZuoUkV.jpg)
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Post by: SteelerKing on September 25, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
^Nice.

I bought season 3 a couple of weeks ago.  It's definitely the best season so far just like the third book was the best in the series IMO. 

Two more episodes until the Red Wedding.   facepalm

(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/3e1/797/fc5/resized/george-r-r-martin-meme-generator-have-a-favorite-character-not-anymore-cce918.jpg?1325976228.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 27, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
Have you watched the Red Wedding, yet?
I've seen it a couple of times, now, and even though I know it's coming, it's still hard to watch.

Some of you may have seen this, and if you haven't watched season 4 yet, SteelerKing, don't watch this...not 'cause it will spoil anything, but it won't be nearly as funny, unless you've seen the whole scene (it's from the first episode of season 4, so you won't have long to wait).

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Post by: SteelerKing on September 27, 2014, 07:48:25 PM
Have you watched the Red Wedding, yet?
I've seen it a couple of times, now, and even though I know it's coming, it's still hard to watch.

I just watched it last night.  Even though I knew it was coming because of the books, it was harder to watch than it was to read about.  It pissed me off in the books but watching it was a cold knife to the gut.  The Starks need some payback because this has been lopsided as all hell.  I want to see the Freys burn.  :devil:
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 27, 2014, 07:56:27 PM
Watching it was b-r-u-t-a-l.

Yeah, I want to see the Frey's get their comeuppance, but don't forget about Roose, that fucker needs to burn, too.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on September 27, 2014, 08:25:02 PM
As someone who hadn't read the books before seeing it and having no idea it was coming, there are no words to describe that scene.  And what got me the most, wasn't the actual killings, but when they had Robb's body on the horse with the wolf head on him and everybody chanting "The King of the North" over and over.
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Post by: SteelerKing on September 27, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
Watching it was b-r-u-t-a-l.

Yeah, I want to see the Frey's get their comeuppance, but don't forget about Roose, that fucker needs to burn, too.

How about flayed to death in honor of his house sigil?  That would be some poetic shit.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 27, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
The first time I saw that scene, Kipp, I hadn't read the books, either.  I had been trying to hold off on reading them.  I figured there was plenty of time after the show was over, and it would be fun not to know what was going to happen.  It was the Red Wedding scene which made me say, fuck it, I'm reading the books.  I just had to read this story that had something like the Red Wedding in it.

When I saw it that first time, Frey offers his wedding present, and I'm sitting there with my jaw hanging open going, holy shit, I can't believe that just happened.  Before I could really even finish that thought, more happened, and then just kept happening.  I don't think I have ever been in such a complete state of shock over anything I've seen on television.  I was just sitting there, my eyes like saucers, staring, frozen, as the credits rolled by in silence, thinking...what the fuck just happened.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 27, 2014, 08:40:16 PM
How about flayed to death in honor of his house sigil?  That would be some poetic shit.

That would be good, but more than anything, I want to see a Stark kill him!!!
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Post by: UTKipp1 on September 27, 2014, 08:59:04 PM
The first time I saw that scene, Kipp, I hadn't read the books, either.  I had been trying to hold off on reading them.  I figured there was plenty of time after the show was over, and it would be fun not to know what was going to happen.  It was the Red Wedding scene which made me say, fuck it, I'm reading the books.  I just had to read this story that had something like the Red Wedding in it.

When I saw it that first time, Frey offers his wedding present, and I'm sitting there with my jaw hanging open going, holy shit, I can't believe that just happened.  Before I could really even finish that thought, more happened, and then just kept happening.  I don't think I have ever been in such a complete state of shock over anything I've seen on television.  I was just sitting there, my eyes like saucers, staring, frozen, as the credits rolled by in silence, thinking...what the fuck just happened.

I knew something was a bit off and then when Cat pulled back the guy's sleeve to reveal the mail underneath, it hit me that they were gonna try and kill the Starks.  But even then I figured they'd escape, at least would anyway.  Goddamn.

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Post by: Cali Cat on October 14, 2014, 03:23:45 PM
lol

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/2b/62/29/2b6229ae057d5430915a4b946cb82e67.jpg)
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on October 14, 2014, 07:15:03 PM
They have Game Of Throne "action figures" at Walgreens.  $19.95.



They had the blonde dragon queen, the guy missing a hand and Peter Dinkage's character.
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Post by: Scuzz on October 15, 2014, 10:23:47 AM
They have Game Of Throne "action figures" at Walgreens.  $19.95.

They had the blonde dragon queen, the guy missing a hand and Peter Dinkage's character.

I like these....

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxUGWN1yt9GIf1gaWlaEhFTIVymBpZqxvPiH0gKHSPP0xdiWFU)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT29UlK4fbyA5Hyd_T7h8qSKKvUwyYFgSI9PWEkdVp4DMx1djLYLA)
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 15, 2014, 12:39:21 PM
I admit it, I want one of these baby Drogon figurines.

(http://www.manofactionfigures.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/sites/default/files/stk643559.jpg)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on October 18, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4fRRMw9.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 18, 2014, 05:04:20 PM
The guy who played Mr. Eko on Lost has been cast in Season 5. blitz1
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Post by: UTKipp1 on October 18, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
The guy who played Mr. Eko on Lost has been cast in Season 5. blitz1
I saw something about that.  Brand new character not from the books.
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 18, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
I saw something about that.  Brand new character not from the books.

Yeah, I read the same thing.
Who knows if he's brand new, though.
I wouldn't be the first time announcements like that have been intentionally misleading.
I'm not saying that's the case with this casting, but it's possible.
His character could also be one with which we're familiar, but the name has been changed (like Asha/Yara), or aspects of characters we know all mashed together.
Of course, he could also just be a completely new character. grin1
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Post by: UTKipp1 on October 18, 2014, 05:14:30 PM
Yeah, I read the same thing.
Who knows if he's brand new, though.
I wouldn't be the first time announcements like that have been intentionally misleading.
I'm not saying that's the case with this casting, but it's possible.
His character could also be one with which we're familiar, but the name has been changed (like Asha/Yara), or aspects of characters we know all mashed together.
Of course, he could also just be a completely new character. grin1
Yeah, my guess is he will be a amalgam of characters from the books.
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 18, 2014, 05:22:26 PM
Yeah, my guess is he will be a amalgam of characters from the books.

The only truly new character I can think of for which he would make sense is...

if you have not read the books, you may not want to read the rest of this post

...the Announcer for Daznak's Pit.  A casting call did go out for that role, and it sounded like it would be a role that, while the character would only appear in a couple of episodes, it would have a lot to do in those episodes.  Who knows?  I wish we didn't have to wait until April to find out.
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Post by: Scuzz on October 21, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
http://io9.com/game-of-thrones-season-5-just-made-another-major-change-1648831088?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


A spoiler for Season 5. Evidence the show is pushing past the books and into uncharted territory.
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 21, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
Thanks, Scuzz.  I heard about that yesterday.
Here's a few more pictures, if you're interested.

http://watchersonthewall.com/inside-daznaks-pit-newest-photos-featuring-emilia-clarke/

If you hit the "home" button at the top of the page, you'll see other articles about the upcoming season.  There are some fantastic pictures of Dorne...Doran, Ellaria, Areo, etc...and others I won't mention, in case some don't already know.  Spoiler Alert!!!
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Post by: UTKipp1 on October 21, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/feJ3kpY.gif)
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 21, 2014, 04:11:46 PM
lol
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 09, 2015, 04:35:41 PM
Announced yesterday:

Season 5 will premiere April 12th
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Post by: Misterfamous on January 09, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
http://io9.com/game-of-thrones-season-5-just-made-another-major-change-1648831088?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


A spoiler for Season 5. Evidence the show is pushing past the books and into uncharted territory.
Not necessarily a bad thing.  Only people who have read far into the original source material would know better, but- it's possible HBO does a better job scripting the middle age and end of the series than the author, who now appears reluctant to finish the damned series.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 09, 2015, 04:44:56 PM
There have been some sample chapters from Winds of Winter released, and it looks like they'll definitely be delving into at least a bit of that material for Arya's story line.

As far as doing a better job of scripting the middle and the end, if nothing else, it will definitely be much more streamlined than the books (which, of course, given the medium, it has to be, but they're also doing what many wished Martin would have done and putting together books 4 and 5).  At least a couple of major book characters have been completely eliminated.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 09, 2015, 04:50:23 PM
They have to cover Arya. She is one of the better story lines.

Also they had to drop characters as nobody had the time to cover all the characters GRRM included.

Hopefully Comcast has a preview weekend the week HBO fires this up so I can get the end episode of last season.

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Post by: UTKipp1 on January 09, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
They have to cover Arya. She is one of the better story lines.

Also they had to drop characters as nobody had the time to cover all the characters GRRM included.

Hopefully Comcast has a preview weekend the week HBO fires this up so I can get the end episode of last season.


Torrent it
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 09, 2015, 04:55:59 PM
They have to cover Arya. She is one of the better story lines.

Also they had to drop characters as nobody had the time to cover all the characters GRRM included.

Hopefully Comcast has a preview weekend the week HBO fires this up so I can get the end episode of last season.



Once the premiere date gets pretty close, if you still haven't been able to see the last episode of season 4 and really want to, let me know, and maybe I can hook you up.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 09, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
Torrent it

I have seen all but the last one and having read the books missing it isn't a deal breaker. But if Comcast is like U-Verse it will be available to me soon enough.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 09, 2015, 05:00:42 PM
Once the premiere date gets pretty close, if you still haven't been able to see the last episode of season 4 and really want to, let me know, and maybe I can hook you up.

just don't tell my wife.....
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 09, 2015, 05:12:58 PM
Comcast does the free preview thing.
In fact, it looks like they're doing a free Showtime weekend, this weekend, but no HBO.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 09, 2015, 05:35:20 PM
U-verse was amazing for the free weekend thing. I don't know why anyone with U-verse would even get a movie channel based on the number of free weekends they had.

But if Comcast is doing Showtime this week, HBO will soon follow.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 09, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
This is where I found the listing for the free Showtime.

http://www.freepreview.tv/

I've found out about other free weekends on that site, too.
Sometimes they'll have then listed a bit in advance.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 27, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
For anyone with HBO, in case you're interested:

http://www.hbo.com/#/game-of-thrones/about/video/season-5-a-day-in-the-life-of-production-promo.html/eNrjcmbOYM5nLtQsy0xJzXfMS8ypLMlMds7PK0mtKFHPz0mBCQUkpqf6JeamcjIyskknlpbkF+QkVtqWFJWmsjGyMQIAWCcXOA==
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 30, 2015, 12:28:01 PM
Is everyone ready for this!?!

Here's a copy of the first trailer for Season 5.
It has yet to be officially released.  It's only showing in the IMAX theatres that are showing Season 4 episodes 9 and 10, but of course, people recorded it and uploaded it, immediately.

All I can say is:  Holy Shit!!!

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Post by: Scuzz on January 30, 2015, 12:49:52 PM
Yea, I just saw that on another site. Nice.

Rumor is the new book will come out about the same time. That would be good, but I doubt it will be ready by then.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 30, 2015, 01:00:59 PM
Yea, I just saw that on another site. Nice.

Rumor is the new book will come out about the same time. That would be good, but I doubt it will be ready by then.

You mean in April?  If so, yeah, that would be awesome, but I, too, doubt it.  I think it was either you or caca (or both) who told me a while back it would be years before the next one was released.  I'd say 2016 is optimistic, but, hey, I'd love to be wrong.

btw - Which site?
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Post by: Scuzz on January 30, 2015, 01:06:23 PM
http://time.com/3689226/martin-winds-winter-game-thrones/


So much for that rumor. The publisher has now said 2016.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 30, 2015, 01:06:56 PM
You mean in April?  If so, yeah, that would be awesome, but I, too, doubt it.  I think it was either you or caca (or both) who told me a while back it would be years before the next one was released.  I'd say 2016 is optimistic, but, hey, I'd love to be wrong.

btw - Which site?

It was linked on a gaming forum I go to.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 30, 2015, 01:25:04 PM
It was linked on a gaming forum I go to.

Ah, ok.  I was just curious.  I'm sure there are a ton of copies of the trailer out, by now, and while the one I linked is a pretty good copy, I thought maybe there were others that were better.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 30, 2015, 03:22:03 PM
Ah, ok.  I was just curious.  I'm sure there are a ton of copies of the trailer out, by now, and while the one I linked is a pretty good copy, I thought maybe there were others that were better.

The one I saw you could hear people clapping at the end.   :)
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on January 30, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
pop1



(I just watch it....I have a hard time keeping the names with all the faces.)
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 30, 2015, 04:24:07 PM
The one I saw you could hear people clapping at the end.   :)

I saw one where you could hear people clapping at the end, too, but the quality wasn't as good.
HBO just posted an official version of the trailer, but it hasn't been uploaded to youtube, yet, at least not that I can find.
As soon as it is, though, I'll replace the one I posted with the official version.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 30, 2015, 04:41:16 PM
Here:  those who want to can just click on this link to see it.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152715877082734

Oh, I didn't know it would appear that way.
Make it full screen on your computer.

Once again, HOLY SHIT!!!
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Post by: RC Philly on January 30, 2015, 04:42:41 PM
Here's a scene-by-scene breakdown of the trailer, in case people didn't know what, or who, they saw.. or in case you totally missed something.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/30/game-of-thrones-season-5-trailer-heres-what-we-saw


Oh, we can be Heroes...  just for one day.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 30, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
Cool, RC, thanks.

There were a couple of things it seemed to be slightly off on, for instance, it isn't Obara with the whip, it's Nymeria, but still, that's really helpful.
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Post by: RC Philly on January 30, 2015, 04:51:38 PM
Impressive that you can even keep all those names straight, and even know them by a 0.001 of a second video clip. If I didn't see names written out and with a picture, I'd probably forget 90% of them.. wait, I do. I'm good with the major characters.. but the rest.. oh boy.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 30, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
Impressive that you can even keep all those names straight, and even know them by a 0.001 of a second video clip. If I didn't see names written out and with a picture, I'd probably forget 90% of them.. wait, I do. I'm good with the major characters.. but the rest.. oh boy.

I recognize them but it takes time to remember who, what and where the plot has everybody so that what I see makes sense.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 30, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
Impressive that you can even keep all those names straight, and even know them by a 0.001 of a second video clip. If I didn't see names written out and with a picture, I'd probably forget 90% of them.. wait, I do. I'm good with the major characters.. but the rest.. oh boy.

As soon as I realized it was a Sand Snake, I went back and paused the video to see which one it was.  I love the Sand Snakes, and Nymeria is my favorite.  I loved the story Arya told of why she named her Direwolf Nymeria, and when I got to the book where we met the Sand Snake Nymeria, she instantly became one of my favorites.  There are plenty of characters I either can't remember, or I can't keep straight.
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Post by: RC Philly on February 03, 2015, 11:14:07 PM
Hafthór Björnsson plays a very strong man named The Mountain on "Game of Thrones." And as it turns out, he's quite strong in real life, too. Here, in a video taken from the World's Strongest Viking competition on Jan. 31, Bjornsson takes five steps while lifting a 32-foot, 1,433-pound log, which broke a 1,000-year-old record, according to IronMind, a strength and weightlifting website.

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Post by: UTKipp1 on February 04, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
My only problem with him playing The Mountain is his age. He's stupid to be older than The Hound, but looks 20 years younger.
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Post by: Cali Cat on February 27, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
(http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/GOT-S5-Poster.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on March 09, 2015, 05:00:37 PM
New Season 5 Trailer (and I thought the first one was good...holy shit!!!)




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Post by: Cali Cat on April 27, 2015, 09:28:48 PM
It's been a busy day, so I haven't had a chance to ask...

What do y'all think?  Pretty good episode, imo.

Probably my favorite quote (other Arya calling the Waif a cunt) was, "Welcome home Lady Stark.  The North Remembers."  Yeah, I pumped my fist in the air at that.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 27, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
It's been a busy day, so I haven't had a chance to ask...

What do y'all think?  Pretty good episode, imo.

Probably my favorite quote (other Arya calling the Waif a cunt) was, "Welcome home Lady Stark.  The North Remembers."  Yeah, I pumped my fist in the air at that.
I thought it was great.   I really like Jon as the Lord Commander taking Slynt's head.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 27, 2015, 10:06:33 PM
I thought it was great.   I really like Jon as the Lord Commander taking Slynt's head.

Yeah, I'm glad that asshole is dead.
I really loved the shot of Jon right before he swung the sword...when he was standing there with the sword point on the ground and his hand on the hilt...sooooooo Ned!!!
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 27, 2015, 10:09:14 PM
Yeah, I'm glad that asshole is dead.
I really loved the shot of Jon right before he swung the sword...when he was standing there with the sword point on the ground and his hand on the hilt...sooooooo Ned!!!
You know, that was the third execution in as many episodes this season.  By far the bst though.  So rare on this show, and in the books, for people like Slynt to get what they deserve.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 27, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
You know, that was the third execution in as many episodes this season.  By far the bst though.  So rare on this show, and in the books, for people like Slynt to get what they deserve.

Agreed.  So few characters, whether good or bad, get any kind of justice, so when they do, it is especially welcome.

As many things as are being changed from the books, I like they are keeping some things directly from the books.  It makes a nice balance.  I haven't watched it, but I hear next week's episode is the best of the season, so far.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 28, 2015, 10:34:40 AM
Agreed.  So few characters, whether good or bad, get any kind of justice, so when they do, it is especially welcome.

As many things as are being changed from the books, I like they are keeping some things directly from the books.  It makes a nice balance.  I haven't watched it, but I hear next week's episode is the best of the season, so far.
I'm gonna watch it Wednesday night. My brother has been coming over to watch but he is going to Daytona for some JROTC thing Thursday and won't be back until Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. So we're gonna watch episode 4 early. Don't worry, I'll be sure to post a bunch of spoilers. grin1
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Post by: Tom Ace on April 28, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
I liked it.  I'm glad Sansa's story is finally getting interesting. 
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on April 28, 2015, 11:46:30 AM
I'm glad Arya didn't throw away Needle.  The Arya storyline is my favorite, I said from Season 1 that she was going to rule Winterfell one day...we'll see if I'm right.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 28, 2015, 12:16:42 PM
I liked it.  I'm glad Sansa's story is finally getting interesting. 

I'm still adjusting to it, but it is certainly going to be interesting.
I will say much of my hesitation went away when the old lady told her "The North Remembers."

I'm glad Arya didn't throw away Needle.  The Arya storyline is my favorite, I said from Season 1 that she was going to rule Winterfell one day...we'll see if I'm right.

Yeah, Arya is by far one of my favorites and has been since the first moment.
It's kind of amazing how good the girl playing her is.
I knew she wasn't going to toss needle, and yet, for a moment I thought..."oh, fuck, Arya, you are gonna do it...you can't...don't you dare."
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Post by: Tom Ace on April 28, 2015, 12:19:00 PM
I'm glad Arya didn't throw away Needle.  The Arya storyline is my favorite, I said from Season 1 that she was going to rule Winterfell one day...we'll see if I'm right.

Agreed.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 28, 2015, 12:19:13 PM
I liked it.  I'm glad Sansa's story is finally getting interesting. 

it just took abandoning the book story line to do it
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 28, 2015, 12:50:31 PM
it just took abandoning the book story line to do it

It makes sense to me they couldn't have her dicking around the Vale dealing with SweetRobin (who needs to die...that kid drives me nuts) all season.  It's pretty ballsy what they've done, but I'm actually starting to think it could work...and maybe even really well.

Have you been able to watch the episodes?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on April 28, 2015, 12:52:31 PM
SweetRobin

Any relation to Brave, Brave Sir Robin?
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 28, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
Any relation to Brave, Brave Sir Robin?

Hahaha...no, absolutely none.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 28, 2015, 01:33:23 PM
It makes sense to me they couldn't have her dicking around the Vale dealing with SweetRobin (who needs to die...that kid drives me nuts) all season.  It's pretty ballsy what they've done, but I'm actually starting to think it could work...and maybe even really well.

Have you been able to watch the episodes?

No, I am in a quandry. I don't want to ruin the books, which watching the TV show to a conclusion would now surely do. There is no way I could watch GoT on HBO to the conclusion and then when/if GRRM finishes the books I could enjoy them as well. The dueling story lines, the knowing what happens to some characters, the final ending, would just ruin it.

For some reason Comcast on-demand will let me watch GoT for this season, but not past seasons.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 28, 2015, 03:38:21 PM
No, I am in a quandry. I don't want to ruin the books, which watching the TV show to a conclusion would now surely do. There is no way I could watch GoT on HBO to the conclusion and then when/if GRRM finishes the books I could enjoy them as well. The dueling story lines, the knowing what happens to some characters, the final ending, would just ruin it.

For some reason Comcast on-demand will let me watch GoT for this season, but not past seasons.

Yeah, I know there are some folks who feel that way.  I enjoy the show too much to stop watching, plus I know many of the paths taken to the conclusion of the story will be different, so I'll still enjoy the books.  Plus, however much I like the show, I love reading too much not to read them...if they ever get published.

That's weird Comcast will only let you view the current season.  My On-Demand has all of the seasons available.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 28, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
Yeah, I know there are some folks who feel that way.  I enjoy the show too much to stop watching, plus I know many of the paths taken to the conclusion of the story will be different, so I'll still enjoy the books.  Plus, however much I like the show, I love reading to much not to read them...if they ever get published.

That's weird Comcast will only let you view the current season.  My On-Demand has all of the seasons available.

Well I don't have HBO normally so I am surprised I can get GoT on demand at all.

But when you start reading a book now, aren't you going to scrutinizing every move to see what changes and what doesn't?
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 28, 2015, 04:39:07 PM
Well I don't have HBO normally so I am surprised I can get GoT on demand at all.

But when you start reading a book now, aren't you going to scrutinizing every move to see what changes and what doesn't?

I read the already published books after the show started, and it didn't bother me.  I think I'll enjoy comparing and contrasting how each medium gets from point "a" to point "z."
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 01, 2015, 09:36:36 PM
Okay, so I watched the 4th episode on Wednesday night.  Holy shit was it good.  And I think Manny and MF will get a real kick out of it.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 03, 2015, 08:29:18 PM
LOL

0:25

"You know nothing, John Snow."   -- Melisandre

It's been too many episodes since the last time...
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 03, 2015, 10:19:52 PM
Okay, so I watched the 4th episode on Wednesday night.  Holy shit was it good.  And I think Manny and MF will get a real kick out of it.

Yeah, it was really good, although I had already had some asshole spoil Barristan and the fact we got the story of the Tourney of Harrenhall.  Thanks, though for not being an asshole...at least not about this. grin1

Over all, though, my general reaction was....Holy Shit!!!

I'm not sure what my favorite line was from this episode (Melisandre's line just made me wanna smack her...that bitch!!!).
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 03, 2015, 10:25:46 PM
Yeah, it was really good, although I had already had some asshole spoil Barristan and the fact we got the story of the Tourney of Harrenhall.  Thanks, though for not being an asshole...at least not about this. grin1

Over all, though, my general reaction was....Holy Shit!!!

I'm not sure what my favorite line was from this episode (Melisandre's line just made me wanna smack her...that bitch!!!).
Yes, the Tourney of Harrenhall mention was awesome as it finally starts to set up what I think will be the ending of the series, which is I guess kinda bittersweet.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 03, 2015, 10:40:52 PM
Yes, the Tourney of Harrenhall mention was awesome as it finally starts to set up what I think will be the ending of the series, which is I guess kinda bittersweet.

I don't know what you're talking about, but they are soooooooooooooooooo setting up a huge, HUGE, HUGE reveal...one which hasn't even happened in the books, yet, but one that, well, it has to happen, and after this episode, any tiny doubt I had about it is gone.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 03, 2015, 11:12:20 PM
I don't know what you're talking about, but they are soooooooooooooooooo setting up a huge, HUGE, HUGE reveal...one which hasn't even happened in the books, yet, but one that, well, it has to happen, and after this episode, any tiny doubt I had about it is gone.
I know the guge reveal you speak of and that plays into how I think it all ends.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 03, 2015, 11:59:46 PM
I know the guge reveal you speak of and that plays into how I think it all ends.

Ah, ok, I'm thinking you do know what I'm talking about, and, yeah, it is bound to play into the endgame.

There were so many fucking allusions to it in this episode!
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 10, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Meereenese Master bbq!  blitz1
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 11, 2015, 12:13:56 AM
I loved the Old Valyria scene. Especially the flyover.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 11, 2015, 12:45:49 AM
I thought it was a great episode, overall, but the flyover in Valyria was what I'd been waiting for since I'd seen it in the season trailer.  That moment, even before you see Drogon, when Tyrion's eyes have that WTF flash, then OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! was just...that may be my favorite moment of the entire series, so far, especially when put together with the moment you see what he sees.

My other favorite part of the episode was probably the time with Maester Aemon.  He's one of my favorite characters in all the books, and the actor who plays him does such a great job.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 18, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
"The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant."

487
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Post by: kburjr on May 18, 2015, 09:24:48 PM
"The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant."

487

Easy, lady, you'll pull a muscle or something
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Post by: RC Philly on May 18, 2015, 11:20:59 PM
"The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant."

That's one job I would not wanna have on the ol' resume. And imagine how many other bad jobs you'd have to go thru to finally settle on being a cock merchant.. unless of course you can't get enough of it, then it's all good I suppose.

Does anyone else make sure they watch this On Demand, instead of watching it as it airs? I enjoy seeing the "inside the episode" feature they do after the show with the writer/producers D.B. Weiss & David Benioff. It's always good getting a take on things from the inside to understand things better.. for those of us that may need it. I avoid the airings on the channels just for this reason.. tho I also like to watch it later at night when things are quiet and I turn the lights out to get a better view of the screen with no reflections of light or anything.. makes for a better experience.
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Post by: wild-turkey on May 18, 2015, 11:39:03 PM
The critics are dumping all over last night's episode.  Personally I think this season is more interesting (at this point compared to the same point last year) than last year.  I don't think it is going to end with as big of a bang but hope I'm wrong.

I really want to know where the dire wolves are though, they have been under used throughout the entire run IMO.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 18, 2015, 11:48:15 PM
The critics are pissed because of what happened to Sansa, mostly.
Not that the scene wasn't awful to watch, but, um, do they not remember Daenerys and Drogo's "wedding night," or every time after until she decided to get "lessons?"  I have to hand it to the guy who plays Theon/Reek.  His face was beyond heart wrenching.

There was an article about some guy who trains wolves having at least one of his wolves used for this season, so I'm guessing at least one of the direwolves show up.  Ghost would be the best bet (although I'd be so happy if we saw Nymeria, she's still running around somewhere...).

RC - I watch it when it airs, just 'cause I can't wait the few extra hours 'til it shows up on On-Demand, but I always make sure I find the "Inside the Episode" thing and watch it.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 19, 2015, 07:11:26 AM
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I have to hand it to the guy who plays Theon/Reek.  His face was beyond heart wrenching.

That's Tuukka Rask, and he was able to get that look of agony by remembering how the Bruins ended the regular season this year.

(http://img.ihned.cz/attachment.php/740/42566740/7KGuJzjq6gvRUFMwlsnyLt8Q2H05eWOc/rask_ctk.jpg)
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 19, 2015, 07:34:57 AM
That's one job I would not wanna have on the ol' resume. And imagine how many other bad jobs you'd have to go thru to finally settle on being a cock merchant.. unless of course you can't get enough of it, then it's all good I suppose.
Maybe it breaks up the monotony of being a regular boring-ass slaver.

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Does anyone else make sure they watch this On Demand, instead of watching it as it airs? I enjoy seeing the "inside the episode" feature they do after the show with the writer/producers D.B. Weiss & David Benioff. It's always good getting a take on things from the inside to understand things better.. for those of us that may need it. I avoid the airings on the channels just for this reason.. tho I also like to watch it later at night when things are quiet and I turn the lights out to get a better view of the screen with no reflections of light or anything.. makes for a better experience.
On the rare occasion that I miss the first airing, I just wait and see it OD.  HBO or one of its companion stations play it all week too.


The critics are pissed because of what happened to Sansa, mostly.
Not that the scene wasn't awful to watch, but, um, do they not remember Daenerys and Drogo's "wedding night," or every time after until she decided to get "lessons?"  I have to hand it to the guy who plays Theon/Reek.  His face was beyond heart wrenching.
I've lost track of how old it is Sansa is supposed to be, but I'm guessing she's around 15 in the show now, which is positively ancient by marital standards set up by GoT.  Sophie Turner is very young- I think she's 18 or 19, but whatever it is, she's no little girl anymore.

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There was an article about some guy who trains wolves having at least one of his wolves used for this season, so I'm guessing at least one of the direwolves show up.  Ghost would be the best bet (although I'd be so happy if we saw Nymeria, she's still running around somewhere...).
Well, the only other option would be Bran's wolf, and we've been spared from seeing Bran's boring adventures this season.
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Post by: Tom Ace on May 19, 2015, 08:20:43 AM
I don't remember another episode that caused such different reactions to the same character.  First you find yourself cheering for Sansa when she tells that bitch to fuck off, and then you're cringing for her at the end. 
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 19, 2015, 08:26:56 AM
then you're cringing for her rubbing one out at the end. 
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 11:00:58 AM
Sophie Turner is 19.

Sansa is supposed to start the books at age 11. She is 14 by A Feast for Crows. I am pretty sure in the HBO version her and the other "kids" start older.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
The critics are pissed because of what happened to Sansa, mostly.
Not that the scene wasn't awful to watch, but, um, do they not remember Daenerys and Drogo's "wedding night," or every time after until she decided to get "lessons?"  I have to hand it to the guy who plays Theon/Reek.  His face was beyond heart wrenching.

There was an article about some guy who trains wolves having at least one of his wolves used for this season, so I'm guessing at least one of the direwolves show up.  Ghost would be the best bet (although I'd be so happy if we saw Nymeria, she's still running around somewhere...).

RC - I watch it when it airs, just 'cause I can't wait the few extra hours 'til it shows up on On-Demand, but I always make sure I find the "Inside the Episode" thing and watch it.

The liberal dominated forum I visit (it is a gaming forum and I game) is up in arms over the Sansa storyline with people saying they are done with the show. Most saw this coming from the previous weeks and the book connection but they still feel it was unnecessary.

The other thing they hated was being Cersei's "raped" by Jaime.
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Post by: Tom Ace on May 19, 2015, 11:13:00 AM
The liberal dominated forum I visit (it is a gaming forum and I game) is up in arms over the Sansa storyline with people saying they are done with the show. Most saw this coming from the previous weeks and the book connection but they still feel it was unnecessary.

I really don't get this.  It's a plot device.  Of course it's unnecessary, but so is pretty much everything that ever happens in TV shows and movies.

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The other thing they hated was being Cersei's "raped" by Jaime.

That's the thing.  I can understand that, only because they treated it as if it wasn't rape. 
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 19, 2015, 11:16:39 AM
The liberal dominated forum I visit (it is a gaming forum and I game) is up in arms over the Sansa storyline with people saying they are done with the show. Most saw this coming from the previous weeks and the book connection but they still feel it was unnecessary.

The other thing they hated was being Cersei's "raped" by Jaime.

Isn't part of the point of the show to show raw violence and people being awful to each other?  It's OK to portray someone cutting an innocent man's head off, squeezing guy's head until it pops, chopping off a dude's cock n' balls and enslaving him...but portraying a sexual assault is over the top?
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 11:18:59 AM
Part of it is that in the book (THE BIBLE) the Cersie/Jaime thing happened but wasn't rape like, while I guess it was on the show.

The other part was in the book Sansa is never with Ramsey Bolton. All this happened to another girl who was masqaurading as Arya Stark. So many people feel with Sansa's past this last bit was unnecessary.

Personally I think knowing Ramsay it was a foregone conclusion this was what was going to happen.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 11:20:45 AM
Isn't part of the point of the show to show raw violence and people being awful to each other?  It's OK to portray someone cutting an innocent man's head off, squeezing guy's head until it pops, chopping off a dude's cock n' balls and enslaving him...but portraying a sexual assault is over the top?

Do you know what a "trigger warning" is? This is a forum big on "trigger warnings". But it has a very active gaming section as many people on the site work in the industry.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 19, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
Sophie Turner is 19.

Sansa is supposed to start the books at age 11. She is 14 by A Feast for Crows. I am pretty sure in the HBO version her and the other "kids" start older.
No, her age has been stated as 14 a couple of times.  I'm just not sure how much time has passed since her marriage to Tyrion, which is the last time it was claimed, I think.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 19, 2015, 11:31:11 AM
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Do you know what a "trigger warning" is?


Is that when Roy Rogers gave his horse the heads-up that he was going to need a ride in 20 minutes or so?
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 19, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
boooooo
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 19, 2015, 04:49:54 PM
Part of it is that in the book (THE BIBLE) the Cersie/Jaime thing happened but wasn't rape like, while I guess it was on the show.

The other part was in the book Sansa is never with Ramsey Bolton. All this happened to another girl who was masqaurading as Arya Stark. So many people feel with Sansa's past this last bit was unnecessary.

Personally I think knowing Ramsay it was a foregone conclusion this was what was going to happen.

Not only was it a foregone conclusion, but they toned it down sooooooooooooooo much when compared with what Ramsay does to the girl he marries in the books.  Moreover, they didn't even show it.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 19, 2015, 05:26:11 PM
Violence is old hat. That's why it's less of a big deal on tv to us now. We're numb to it. Rape is so rarely thrown in our faces, especially involving a minor
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Post by: Jeep99tj on May 19, 2015, 05:28:55 PM
Not only was it a foregone conclusion, but they toned it down sooooooooooooooo much when compared with what Ramsay does to the girl he marries in the books.  Moreover, they didn't even show it.

Ramsay is a total dick.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 05:31:12 PM
Ramsay is a total dick.

He is one mad dog, no doubt about that.
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Post by: Jeep99tj on May 19, 2015, 05:34:06 PM
He is one mad dog, no doubt about that.

I'm hoping his end is as bad if not worse then what he's dished out so far.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 19, 2015, 05:35:06 PM
Ramsay is a total dick.

That's putting it rather mildly.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 19, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
I'm hoping his end is as bad if not worse then what he's dished out so far.

Yeah, I'm hoping his dick gets flayed, then cut off, then the rest of him gets flayed, then some more pain and torture, then, eventually, he dies.
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Post by: Jeep99tj on May 19, 2015, 05:47:17 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping his dick gets flayed, then cut off, then the rest of him gets flayed, then some more pain and torture, then, eventually, he dies.

I was thinking a slow impaling. Slow enough that it lasts for days. A lot of physical and mental pain in that.
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Post by: kburjr on May 19, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping his dick gets flayed, then cut off, then the rest of him gets flayed, then some more pain and torture, then, eventually, he dies.

I was thinking a slow impaling. Slow enough that it lasts for days. A lot of physical and mental pain in that.

and they say TV and movies don't move people to violence
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 19, 2015, 05:52:53 PM
Violence is old hat. That's why it's less of a big deal on tv to us now. We're numb to it. Rape is so rarely thrown in our faces, especially involving a minor
No one was raped.


Yeah, I'm hoping his dick gets flayed, then cut off, then the rest of him gets flayed, then some more pain and torture, then, eventually, he dies.
Does he die in the books ? 
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 19, 2015, 06:02:06 PM
Cercei was, MF. Both were brought up.

And Sansa allowed it, but clearly wasn't thrilled about it
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping his dick gets flayed, then cut off, then the rest of him gets flayed, then some more pain and torture, then, eventually, he dies.

Remember though, GRRM doesn't work that way. Although I do think in Ramsay Bolton's case he will find a way to put him down.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 06:11:09 PM
Cercei was, MF. Both were brought up.

And Sansa allowed it, but clearly wasn't thrilled about it

In the book the Cersei "rape" isn't as obvious as in the show.

And in the morals of the time Sansa was not raped.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 19, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
No one was raped.

Does he die in the books ? 

He is alive through the books as written today. But the show has passed that point and so nobody knows his future.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 19, 2015, 06:13:40 PM
Really, Sansa was about as willing as someone with a gun put to their head.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 19, 2015, 06:23:43 PM
In the book the Cersei "rape" isn't as obvious as in the show.

And in the morals of the time Sansa was not raped.
we weren't observing as people from the Middle Ages. We're were viewing as us. It's about our perception.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 19, 2015, 08:26:41 PM
Remember though, GRRM doesn't work that way. Although I do think in Ramsay Bolton's case he will find a way to put him down.

I know he doesn't work that way, but I can still think of all the horrible ways I would like him to die.

we weren't observing as people from the Middle Ages. We're were viewing as us. It's about our perception.

Still, though, it doesn't change the fact in the world of the story, it was not rape.  In the world of the story, it would have been perfectly legit. for her to have been stripped by the male wedding guests on her way to the bed chamber.  It also doesn't change the fact people are flipping out about this as though nothing like this has ever happened in the show, and in a way where much more was shown.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 19, 2015, 09:09:05 PM
Cercei was, MF. Both were brought up.

And Sansa allowed it, but clearly wasn't thrilled about it
Sansa was the topic I thought, and again- she wasn't raped.


In the book the Cersei "rape" isn't as obvious as in the show.

And in the morals of the time Sansa was not raped.
^This.  It's a fantasy world, closest to feudal Europe, which dispenses with Gloria Steinem moralistic feminism.


He is alive through the books as written today. But the show has passed that point and so nobody knows his future.
Damn.  What happened to Theon in the books ?  I know the torture in GoT is a lot more elaborate than what was described in the books, but I don't know what eventually happened to him.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 19, 2015, 09:31:04 PM
I know he doesn't work that way, but I can still think of all the horrible ways I would like him to die.

Still, though, it doesn't change the fact in the world of the story, it was not rape.  In the world of the story, it would have been perfectly legit. for her to have been stripped by the male wedding guests on her way to the bed chamber.  It also doesn't change the fact people are flipping out about this as though nothing like this has ever happened in the show, and in a way where much more was shown.
sure, but that wasn't my point. i was just answering as to why in general we're more squeamish about watching it in comparison to violence.
it has nothing to do with legality in feudal times.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 19, 2015, 09:39:50 PM
it was in response to this

Isn't part of the point of the show to show raw violence and people being awful to each other?  It's OK to portray someone cutting an innocent man's head off, squeezing guy's head until it pops, chopping off a dude's cock n' balls and enslaving him...but portraying a sexual assault is over the top?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 20, 2015, 02:56:40 PM
sure, but that wasn't my point. i was just answering as to why in general we're more squeamish about watching it in comparison to violence.
it has nothing to do with legality in feudal times.

No, our squeamishness has nothing to do with legality in feudal times, but I think it is important to keep the legality of that world in mind while viewing it.  For it to have gone another way on her wedding night with Ramsay (of all people), it would not have been realistic for the world of the show.

Also, and this is just me, some of the violence has been harder for me to watch than that Sansa scene.  Part of that would be due to the violence being graphically shown, as opposed to how what happened to Sansa was shown.  That's the same reason seeing what Drogo did to Daenerys was more difficult for me to watch than this Sansa/Ramsay scene.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 20, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
i was generalizing, not being specific to myself. That duel with The Mountain was rather gross at the end. The Tickler freaked me out a little. That whole idea of having the rat dig through you is pretty foul.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 21, 2015, 10:47:21 AM

Damn.  What happened to Theon in the books ?  I know the torture in GoT is a lot more elaborate than what was described in the books, but I don't know what eventually happened to him.

Again, the story has progressed beyond the books in this instance. Theon is still alive in the books but the show is writing their own stuff now.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 21, 2015, 10:58:21 AM
i was wondering about that. i haven't read the books
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Post by: Scuzz on May 21, 2015, 11:15:04 AM
Some of the shows story lines are still direct from the book, but others are no longer following any direction from the book. That is not to say GRRM didn't give the writers some idea of were he was going but he has said the show and the books will tell two different stories now.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 21, 2015, 11:19:04 AM
well, then i guess i should make room to read em.

do the books start around the same time? before or after Baratheon?
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 21, 2015, 11:20:05 AM
or during, like the show does, i suppose
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Post by: Scuzz on May 21, 2015, 04:01:29 PM
well, then i guess i should make room to read em.

do the books start around the same time? before or after Baratheon?

The books basically start where season 1, episode 1 starts.

And I tell people not to read the books, unless you plan on reading them very slowly, because the series, if it is ever finished, probably won't be done by GRRM until 2020. He is pretty much reaching 5 years between books.
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Post by: wild-turkey on May 21, 2015, 04:12:51 PM
I started to read the books but between watching the show, and knowing most of what happens, plus the slow pacing of the books I just stopped half way through the first.  I really like the show so I'm just rolling with it.  I doubt I will ever have the desire to read 10,000 pages of the GOT saga.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 21, 2015, 04:31:45 PM
Some of the shows story lines are still direct from the book, but others are no longer following any direction from the book. That is not to say GRRM didn't give the writers some idea of were he was going but he has said the show and the books will tell two different stories now.

Well, he's said the show is the show and the books are the books, and that they may take different paths to the end, but the end will be the same (paraphrasing, of course).
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2015, 06:18:37 PM
Ok, it turns out this is pretty funny, plus it was for a good cause.

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Post by: Cali Cat on May 25, 2015, 12:05:39 AM
Damn, that was a really good episode!
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Post by: Jeep99tj on May 25, 2015, 12:21:41 AM
Damn, that was a really good episode!

👍
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 25, 2015, 12:22:33 AM
I thought it was gonna end on "I am Tyrion Lannister" but then boom, into the cell for Cersi. Fucking awesome.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on May 26, 2015, 04:47:28 PM
So...not having read the books, is a sadistic young king/prince essential to Game of Thrones?

As soon as they kill off one, another pops up in the form of a recognized bastard?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 26, 2015, 04:50:20 PM
So...not having read the books, is a sadistic young king/prince essential to Game of Thrones?

As soon as they kill off one, another pops up in the form of a recognized bastard?
Ramsay was around long before Joff died.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 26, 2015, 04:50:46 PM
Oh, and he is neither a king or a prince.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 26, 2015, 05:01:26 PM
Ramsay was around long before Joff died.

Yeah, he was around doing little things like flaying Theon and cutting off his dick.


I just saw the first news of casting for season 6. blitz1
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 26, 2015, 05:12:29 PM
Yeah, he was around doing little things like flaying Theon and cutting off his dick.


I just saw the first news of casting for season 6. blitz1
And ?  Who doesn't make the cut ?  Does the adventure of Bran and Hodur inside the magic tree continue ?
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Post by: kburjr on May 26, 2015, 05:13:57 PM
And ?  Who doesn't make the cut ?  Does the adventure of Bran and Hodur inside the magic tree continue ?

Jeezus!!!  You need a hankie?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 26, 2015, 05:19:23 PM
And ?  Who doesn't make the cut ?  Does the adventure of Bran and Hodur inside the magic tree continue ?

They wouldn't mention casting Bran and Hodor, since they've already been cast.  This list is for new characters.  They've gotten sneaky, though.  Instead of calling the characters by name, they just give descriptions.

A very important location, which has been name-dropped this season is definitely in, and it sounds like there could be some flashbacks through what folks are calling the weirnet, so, yeah, Bran and Hodor will be back.

Instead of listing names, or anything, especially since some people may not want to know, here's the link to the info. 

http://watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-season-6-casting-has-begun-and-heres-the-list/
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 26, 2015, 05:19:39 PM
Jeezus!!!  You need a hankie?
Not just yet.  Maybe "The Mountain" will appear with his shirt off again though...
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 26, 2015, 05:22:46 PM
Not just yet.  Maybe "The Mountain" will appear with his shirt off again though...

Well, Qyburn is working on reanimating him, so you may get your wish. grin1
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on May 26, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
Do you think Little Missy, with the lethal pointy stick, will decide to leave and not become a Faceless Man?
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Post by: wmichskers on May 26, 2015, 05:27:31 PM
I don't watch TV, I'm sure my opinion will be missed  :tiphat:
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Post by: Scuzz on May 26, 2015, 06:32:21 PM
Do you think Little Missy, with the lethal pointy stick, will decide to leave and not become a Faceless Man?

In my fantasy about how the show ends she ends up killing everyone on her list.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 26, 2015, 08:28:30 PM
Do you think Little Missy, with the lethal pointy stick, will decide to leave and not become a Faceless Man?
I think she's already decided she doesn't want to be a faceless man. She is and wants to be Arya Stark. But she wants the skills of a.faceless man to work on her list.
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Post by: Tom Ace on May 27, 2015, 07:57:06 AM
Sansa was the topic I thought, and again- she wasn't raped.

Yes, she was.  Whether that culture considers it rape doesn't change the fact that it was rape.  Rape is nonconsensual sex.  Sansa clearly didn't want it to happen. 
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Post by: Tom Ace on May 27, 2015, 08:03:30 AM
I think she's already decided she doesn't want to be a faceless man. She is and wants to be Arya Stark. But she wants the skills of a.faceless man to work on her list.

That's why it's so interesting.  Not having read the books this far (if it's even in there yet), you don't know which way she'll go.

And yes, it was pretty awesome to see Cersei thrown in a cell.  Do the books give more information on the Sparrows and how exactly they have so much power?  I mean, I know Cersei allowed them more power to further her own scheme, but I don't feel like the show has really shown why the king can't just say enough with them.  They've just given little things like the high sparrow's comments like "when the many stop fearing the few". 
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 27, 2015, 09:57:50 AM
That's why it's so interesting.  Not having read the books this far (if it's even in there yet), you don't know which way she'll go.

And yes, it was pretty awesome to see Cersei thrown in a cell.  Do the books give more information on the Sparrows and how exactly they have so much power?  I mean, I know Cersei allowed them more power to further her own scheme, but I don't feel like the show has really shown why the king can't just say enough with them.  They've just given little things like the high sparrow's comments like "when the many stop fearing the few". 
Because Tommen is a pussy.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on May 27, 2015, 10:41:32 AM
Yes, she was.  Whether that culture considers it rape doesn't change the fact that it was rape.  Rape is nonconsensual sex.  Sansa clearly didn't want it to happen. 



That was a very disturbing scene.  I have read on some other forums people who said they were not watching anymore after that...


They did not quit when Fire Witch Lady got naked and impregnated a couple of seasons ago, now did they?
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Post by: Scuzz on May 27, 2015, 11:05:59 AM


That was a very disturbing scene.  I have read on some other forums people who said they were not watching anymore after that...


They did not quit when Fire Witch Lady got naked and impregnated a couple of seasons ago, now did they?

That was consensual though.

The other incident that fired up the "rape" crowd was when Jaime and Cersei did it in the crypt. In the book that reads as consensual, but on the show it appeared more like rape. The writers meant it as consensual.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 27, 2015, 01:19:42 PM
In my fantasy about how the show ends she ends up killing everyone on her list.
She's running out of time then.  The Hound is dead, so is Tywin, Joffrey and most of the Mountain.  Cersei's imprisoned, though I think she'll probably get out of it.


Yes, she was.  Whether that culture considers it rape doesn't change the fact that it was rape.  Rape is nonconsensual sex.  Sansa clearly didn't want it to happen. 
Incorrect.  Per the laws of the Westeros (of which Maryland and Gloria Steinem don't exist), consummation is a critical part of the ceremony.  Sansa never resisted or said no to any part of the ceremony, even the bit where Theon got to watch.  It was merely rough sex.  You can make a pretty good argument that Ramsay's been raping her since though...
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 27, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
That was consensual though.

Yeah, I don't know what those scenes have in common, other than sex was involved.


The other incident that fired up the "rape" crowd was when Jaime and Cersei did it in the crypt. In the book that reads as consensual, but on the show it appeared more like rape. The writers meant it as consensual.

Yet strangely, as I've already mentioned, the scenes between Daenerys and Drogo (which were far, far more graphic), not to mention several other graphic scenes where it was rape even in the context of the world of Westeros, as opposed to a husband exercising his "marital rights," didn't seem to be much of an issue for those same people who flipped out over the Sansa scene.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 27, 2015, 01:40:10 PM
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That was a very disturbing scene.  I have read on some other forums people who said they were not watching anymore after that...

What boggles my mind about the people who are freaking out about the rape scene is...did they not see what was done to Theon?  It's OK to hold a man down and rip his penis and testicles off and then enslave him...but sexual assault is over the line?  What the f**k?

Besides, rapes occur in every Lifetime movie that was ever made.  Rape is a fairly common occurance in movies.  So you write a scene about a rape, that's the point, we're showing something horrible.  Why is this so much more horrible than all the other far more horrible things done to everyone else in the show, and other shows.

Would you rather take it up the ass unwillingly, or get your cock n' balls ripped off, or your head chopped off like Ned?  It's the most bizarre complaint I've ever heard.
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Post by: kburjr on May 27, 2015, 01:56:38 PM
PIV is always rape
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 27, 2015, 01:58:34 PM
PIV is always rape
Well yeah.  But maybe Ramsay was sticking his P somewhere else.  He's into the kinky stuff, you know.
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Post by: SteelerKing on May 27, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
Wait...Sansa was raped?  what1

That didn't happen in the books and I don't watch each season until it's over, at which point I buy the DVD box set.  This might be the first time a long time reader of the series needed **Spoilers** about the show.  Having said that, the only problem I have with it is that it's a huge deviation from the actual story and it makes me curious how many other things will be liberally altered when the show inevitably outpaces the books.  The final season or two could end up being significantly different from Martin's vision.
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Post by: Tom Ace on May 27, 2015, 02:19:54 PM
Incorrect. 

Nope.  She clearly didn't want it to happen, making it rape.  Again, whether or not it is considered rape in that particular culture doesn't change the fact that it was nonconsensual sex, AKA rape.
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Post by: Tom Ace on May 27, 2015, 02:22:47 PM
Wait...Sansa was raped?  what1

That didn't happen in the books and I don't watch each season until it's over, at which point I buy the DVD box set.  This might be the first time a long time reader of the series needed **Spoilers** about the show.  Having said that, the only problem I have with it is that it's a huge deviation from the actual story and it makes me curious how many other things will be liberally altered when the show inevitably outpaces the books.  The final season or two could end up being significantly different from Martin's vision.

This season is already a lot different from the books now.  A few major things are different and some minor things. 
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 27, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
Wait...Sansa was raped?  what1

That didn't happen in the books and I don't watch each season until it's over, at which point I buy the DVD box set.  This might be the first time a long time reader of the series needed **Spoilers** about the show.  Having said that, the only problem I have with it is that it's a huge deviation from the actual story and it makes me curious how many other things will be liberally altered when the show inevitably outpaces the books.  The final season or two could end up being significantly different from Martin's vision.

They made a huge change to Sansa's arc, although I think it's much better than having her sitting around the Riverlands twiddling her thumbs all season.  There have been a couple of other pretty big changes (not just cuts, but changes, although one which happened last week gave me the feeling of...finally...it would have been nice if that could have happened by this point in the books).  Moving forward, most everyone is going to be in the dark, at least unless the next book gets released before season 6, and I don't think that will happen (would love to be wrong about that, though).
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 27, 2015, 04:00:32 PM
Nope.  She clearly didn't want it to happen, making it rape.  Again, whether or not it is considered rape in that particular culture doesn't change the fact that it was nonconsensual sex, AKA rape.
Yet it was consensual Tom.  Sansa knows she'll have to have sex with Ramsay, and says "yes" to the process.  You can make an argument that it's a hugely male-dominated society that they live in, where women have few choices.  But it wasn't rape, anymore than the "Sparrows" are an oppressive religious theocracy...
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 27, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
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Moving forward, most everyone is going to be in the dark

You mean like, because winter is coming?
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Post by: kburjr on May 27, 2015, 04:27:44 PM
You mean like, because winter is coming?

Nuclear Winter?  Them boys have got some weapons they haven't used yet?
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Post by: Scuzz on May 27, 2015, 05:58:43 PM
Wait...Sansa was raped?  what1

That didn't happen in the books and I don't watch each season until it's over, at which point I buy the DVD box set.  This might be the first time a long time reader of the series needed **Spoilers** about the show.  Having said that, the only problem I have with it is that it's a huge deviation from the actual story and it makes me curious how many other things will be liberally altered when the show inevitably outpaces the books.  The final season or two could end up being significantly different from Martin's vision.

well duh....the HBO guys are on their own with several plot lines now. And it will only get worse.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 01, 2015, 12:31:55 AM
11/10 stars
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 01, 2015, 07:26:00 AM
Winter is here. FINALLY.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 01, 2015, 07:46:46 AM
Winter is here. FINALLY.
I said roughly the same thing.  Seemed like the area above The Wall was either untenably vast, or the White Walkers got lost.  Apparently, they're just incredibly evil though, and wanted to piss off viewers, as well as Wildings and Crows.

Next week looks like they're setting up an epic cliffhanger, judging by the scant preview for next week.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 01, 2015, 07:50:57 AM
11/10 stars

No bewbs, can't get more than 8 stars.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 01, 2015, 09:35:50 AM
I said roughly the same thing.  Seemed like the area above The Wall was either untenably vast, or the White Walkers got lost.  Apparently, they're just incredibly evil though, and wanted to piss off viewers, as well as Wildings and Crows.

Next week looks like they're setting up an epic cliffhanger, judging by the scant preview for next week.
maybe it took them a little time to make more white walkers. i remember we saw a few beginning to march at the end of a couple of seasons ago, but i can't recall if there were masses of them yet.

i know none of those maps are correct, but if you go by a common one, one that Martin himself says he was impressed with, then it appears that there are several hundred miles from the wall to the polar area minimum. of course, for all we know that is just the limit of inhabitable area.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 01, 2015, 10:14:06 AM
I'm thinking they've been going around and wiping out all the free folk villages that were remaining north of the wall, building their army as they go.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 01, 2015, 10:17:27 AM
yeah, that's what i was goin with, too. makes sense, Kipp.
as a person who hasn't read the novels, i had no clue as to how many wildlings there were until last night.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 01, 2015, 10:24:18 AM
Even without that ending battle, that was a great episode. But holy shit was that fight epic. And I loved the stared own at the end. The Night's King doing the "come at me, bro" thing while raising the dead was great.
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 03, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
11/10 stars

This.  SPOILERS (only really for anyone watching the show without having read the books, but still planning to read the books):

I already enjoyed watching the show more than reading the books, and this development cements that.  For the most important storyline that is our introduction to the entire series, the books have really taken forever to get around to any progress in it. 

Now I'm extremely excited for the rest of the season.

So, we now know (non-book-readers) that Valyrian steel (which seems to be the same thing as dragonsteel, according to most people, at least) is key against the White Walkers.  We also know that fire shrinks from them, or at least regular fire.  Does the first piece of information imply that maybe dragonfire acts differently and is key against the WWs too?  Makes me more interested to see what happens with the dragons now.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 03, 2015, 10:41:48 AM
And it was so well done. Starting with the dogs losing their shit and then just seeing the snow flying into the air without a tually being able to see what was causing it. And GoT just introduced the best zombies on TV. It was a very good to great episode up to that point and then that just put it into epic, possibly the best episode ever territory.
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 03, 2015, 10:57:41 AM
And it was so well done. Starting with the dogs losing their chit and then just seeing the snow flying into the air without a tually being able to see what was causing it.

Yes.  The dogs barking part really put it over the top, in my opinion.  It was a very good "Oh shit, are we going to see something?" tense moment.   
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 08, 2015, 03:02:20 PM
R.I.P. Shireen
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 08, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
R.I.P. Shireen
I'm back to my original feeling that Stannis is a jerk.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 08, 2015, 03:29:26 PM
I'm back to my original feeling that Stannis is a jerk.
Are you sure that's not overly harsh?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 08, 2015, 03:33:21 PM
I'm back to my original feeling that Stannis is a jerk.
I agree.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 08, 2015, 03:33:24 PM
I'm back to my original feeling that Stannis is a jerk.



I kept thinking an arrow would find that witch before the little girl got torched.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/game-thrones-showrunner-explains-horrific-scene/story?id=31610331
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 08, 2015, 03:38:53 PM
Let me get this straight.  People flip the f**k out and threaten to stop watching the show over a sexual assault, but you can burn a small girl at the stake and...no outcry?

I like Game of Thrones, but it's fans are the weirdest bunch.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 08, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Let me get this straight.  People flip the f**k out and threaten to stop watching the show over a sexual assault, but you can burn a small girl at the stake and...no outcry?

I like Game of Thrones, but it's fans are the weirdest bunch.

Blood curling screams....IT WAS HORRIBLE!!!!!
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 08, 2015, 04:08:21 PM
Are you sure that's not overly harsh?
Shows the power of what happens when religion takes hold :(


Let me get this straight.  People flip the f**k out and threaten to stop watching the show over a sexual assault, but you can burn a small girl at the stake and...no outcry?

I like Game of Thrones, but it's fans are the weirdest bunch.
Oh, there's an outcry I'm sure.  Probably some parents' group will allege HBO is trying to profit off scenes of child-rape and child-murder, if there hasn't been one already.

As for the fans who were surprised by it- what did they think was going to happen to a sweet little girl who's only been notable in the plot thus far because Melisandre has been wanting to sacrifice her ?  Yes, Stannis decides that his sickly but kind daughter would be better off fighting a wildling uprising beyond the Wall, or trying to win the North ?  Television is predictable enough nowadays that she was simply made a Chekhov's Gun about 20 episodes ago.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 08, 2015, 04:18:27 PM
Let me get this straight.  People flip the f**k out and threaten to stop watching the show over a sexual assault, but you can burn a small girl at the stake and...no outcry?

I like Game of Thrones, but it's fans are the weirdest bunch.
GOT morality is so screwed up you just become numb to the atrocities.  Take Jamie Lannister, last season he basically raped his sister in front of his dead son's (from incest) casket and he is one of the most likeable characters this season.

Everyone is up in arms about the child being burned at the stake, but everyone seems to forget the grossly under age child that was requested and given to a customer in a brothel this episode.  If you are a longtime viewer is it possible to shock you anymore?
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 08, 2015, 04:20:20 PM
GOT morality is so screwed up you just become numb to the atrocities.  Take Jamie Lannister, last season he basically raped his sister in front of his dead son's (from incest) casket and he is one of the most likeable characters this season.

Everyone is up in arms about the child being burned at the stake, but everyone seems to forget the grossly under age child that was requested and given to a customer in a brothel this episode.  If you are a longtime viewer is it possible to shock you anymore?


Helps make Black Sails look almost like Leave It To Beaver by comparison...
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Post by: Scuzz on June 08, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
According to the showrunners the Shireen BBQ is part of the next GRRM book. So they were just following the plot.
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 08, 2015, 04:52:51 PM

Helps make Black Sails look almost like Leave It To Beaver by comparison...

Or Banshee.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 08, 2015, 06:11:59 PM
I think they had to make Stannis a jerk. I think he will eventually be Daenerys' biggest threat. The Lannisters will fall. Things aren't exactly looking up for them at the moment.

If we all came around to like Stannis, then choosing between he and our heroine would be difficult. You need a bad guy to make things interesting. Not that Danny is perfect, but we're supposed to be rooting for her. So far...

I have a feeling Stannis is going to do more things to make us hate him, and soon.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 08, 2015, 06:22:24 PM
Damn man, what else can they do to make people want to dislike Stannis more- eat live puppies while burning albino babies with acid ?
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 08, 2015, 06:58:27 PM
Or Banshee.


Daredevil is baby shit by comparison.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 08, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Damn man, what else can they do to make people want to dislike Stannis more- eat live puppies while burning albino babies with acid ?
well, for a second we started to see his human side when he displayed his love for his daughter.

then he had her burned.

soooooo, yeah. not so good
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 09, 2015, 07:00:28 AM
If we all came around to like Stannis, then choosing between he and our heroine would be difficult.

*him  grin1
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 09, 2015, 07:12:01 AM
That was hard to watch, or rather hard to listen to, since it was mostly just hearing her scream.

It looks like they're really ramping up the big war of fire and ice.   I'm glad we finally got to Dany riding a dragon.

I had some problems with the arena scene, though.  Where the hell was her security?  They know there is a significant faction ready to fight and die against her, as proven by the Sons of the Harpy ambushing and taking out a group of Unsullied, among other things.  They're in a big arena with thousands of people.  The Sons of the Harpy are wearing their masks (which is also stupid; you'd have a lot more success not standing out), and yet one of them is able to get close enough to nearly touch Dany.  Then they're barely able to hold off the SotH long enough for Drogon to swoop in, and it's looking bleak for those not able to fly out of there (although it's doubtful those who remained will be killed, of course).

Not a huge deal, but it just seemed a little too unbelievable for me.
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Post by: kburjr on June 09, 2015, 09:06:40 AM


Not a huge deal, but it just seemed a little too unbelievable for me.

That is the funniest line I've seen here in a long time.  Like the rest pf GoT is a documentary or something
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 09, 2015, 09:56:03 AM
That is the funniest line I've seen here in a long time.  Like the rest pf GoT is a documentary or something

The point is even within the context of the show, that part was unbelievable.  It's hard to believe that situation would occur given the circumstances.
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Post by: kburjr on June 09, 2015, 10:02:28 AM
The point is even within the context of the show, that part was unbelievable.  It's hard to believe that situation would occur given the circumstances.

I know what you meant, Tom.  It just struck me as funny when read as a stand alone statement.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 09, 2015, 10:18:42 AM
That is the funniest line I've seen here in a long time.  Like the rest pf GoT is a documentary or something
Are you guy saying that Dragons and White Walkers aren't real?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 09, 2015, 10:34:18 AM
Are you guy saying that Dragons and White Walkers aren't real?

Dragons and the risen dead are both in the Bible, are you saying that's not real?
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 09, 2015, 11:08:11 AM
Dragons and the risen dead are both in the Bible, are you saying that's not real?
Oh good so they are real.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 09, 2015, 01:13:57 PM
Dragons and the risen dead are both in the Bible, are you saying that's not real?


But anyone that is "Saved" will not have to worry about any of that, will they?
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Post by: kburjr on June 09, 2015, 01:17:05 PM
(http://www.tonykieraldo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/alfred-e-neuman.jpeg)
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 09, 2015, 02:23:11 PM

But anyone that is "Saved" will not have to worry about any of that, will they?

Anyone who is "Sane" doesn't have to worry about any of that.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 09, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
and pitchers. pitchers worry about it, too.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 10, 2015, 04:46:26 PM
I didn't know this had a game of it's own : The Verge: The Game of Game of Thrones: Season 5, Episode 9, The Dance of Dragons. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwx8Lc_SE
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
The last couple of episodes have been K-I-L-L-E-R (Literally and figuratively).

I'd been waiting to see Dany fly off on Drogon ever since I read it in the books, and it did not disappoint.

Stannis needs to die a horrible, painful death, and Melisandre needs to die an even more horrible, painful death...that foul fuckin' bitch!!!
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 11, 2015, 03:10:05 PM
SHE'S BACK!!!!!!
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Post by: Scuzz on June 11, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
The last couple of episodes have been K-I-L-L-E-R (Literally and figuratively).

I'd been waiting to see Dany fly off on Drogon ever since I read it in the books, and it did not disappoint.

Stannis needs to die a horrible, painful death, and Melisandre needs to die an even more horrible, painful death...that foul fuckin' bitch!!!

So they have cable where you were but no internet?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2015, 03:50:45 PM
So they have cable where you were but no internet?

Hahaha...
There was both cable and internet (shocking, I know), but part of my vacation was going off the grid.
I didn't even check emails.
It was awesome.

I also learned my 78 year old stepfather is a Game of Thrones fan.
He wants a Hodor! shirt, and I'm sending him one as a "thanks for putting up with me."
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Post by: Scuzz on June 11, 2015, 03:52:27 PM
Hahaha...
There was both cable and internet (shocking, I know), but part of my vacation was going off the grid.
I didn't even check emails.
It was awesome.

I also learned my 78 year old stepfather is a Game of Thrones fan.
He wants a Hodor! shirt, and I'm sending him one as a "thanks for putting up with me."

I have seen those on Woot.

But I bet he watches the show for the nekkid women.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 11, 2015, 03:53:09 PM
I also learned my 78 year old stepfather is a Game of Thrones fan.
He wants a Hodor! shirt, and I'm sending him one as a "thanks for putting up with me."
May I suggest:

http://www.amazon.com/Hung-Hodor-American-Apparel-T-Shirt/dp/B00D7O07NG
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 11, 2015, 03:53:50 PM
I have seen those on Woot.

But I bet he watches the show for the nekkid women.

Who doesn't?
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Post by: Scuzz on June 11, 2015, 03:56:07 PM
May I suggest:

http://www.amazon.com/Hung-Hodor-American-Apparel-T-Shirt/dp/B00D7O07NG

wow, that color option is for the gay
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 11, 2015, 04:00:12 PM
wow, that color option is for the gay

Handi?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2015, 04:00:12 PM
May I suggest:

http://www.amazon.com/Hung-Hodor-American-Apparel-T-Shirt/dp/B00D7O07NG

Ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha...


No.

Who doesn't?

I don't, although I'll admit to enjoying the glimpses of Daario's ass!
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 11, 2015, 04:03:02 PM
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140417045048/potcoplayers/images/3/3d/Tywin-tv2.jpg)

CAli's step dad?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2015, 04:08:03 PM
There are some similarities, but I don't think any of his kids wanna kill him with a cross-bow.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 11, 2015, 04:09:02 PM
There are some similarities, but I don't think any of his kids wanna kill him with a cross-bow.

They would if he was a Louisville fan....
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 11, 2015, 04:10:19 PM
There are some similarities, but I don't think any of his kids wanna kill him with a cross-bow.

Your brother-in-law is full grown, I would imagine?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2015, 04:17:58 PM
They would if he was a Louisville fan....

Well, yeah, but he has better taste than that.
In fact, our love for University of Kentucky basketball was the first thing we could ever discuss without fighting.  It was the first thing which made us both go...hey, maybe we could get along.

Your brother-in-law is full grown, I would imagine?

You mean my step-brother?  Yeah, he's only a couple of years younger than I.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 11, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
wow, that color option is for the gay
Que?
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 11, 2015, 05:09:34 PM
Well, yeah, but he has better taste than that.
In fact, our love for University of Kentucky basketball was the first thing we could ever discuss without fighting.  It was the first thing which made us both go...hey, maybe we could get along.

You mean my step-brother?  Yeah, he's only a couple of years younger than I.


Larger stature than Peter Dinkage?


BTW, I think it is excellent he gets top billing.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2015, 05:23:05 PM

Larger stature than Peter Dinkage?


BTW, I think it is excellent he gets top billing.

Yeah, in fact, he's fairly tall.

When you have an actor who has been nominated for 4 emmys, won 1, and a Golden Globe, to boot...you should give him top billing (although I think that started in season 2...I think Sean Bean got the top billing for season 1).
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2015, 09:11:07 PM
Two of my favorite memes from Hardhome:

(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/game-of-lulz-5-7.gif?w=650)

(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/game-of-lulz-5-9.jpg?w=650)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 12, 2015, 10:00:03 AM
I like "come at me crow" better, but both are funny.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 14, 2015, 03:54:50 PM
I don't think I've posted this, yet.
This was made for the season premiere, but I think it works well for the finale, too.
It's pretty fuckin' funny.

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Post by: Cali Cat on June 14, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
Yes, I'm beyond totally geeking out, but, well...

Yet another reason to love Jerry Rice:


Jerry RiceVerified account
‏@JerryRice

Who's ready for the @gameofthrones finale tonight ?

(I don't know how to post things from twitter, so I just copy/pasted)

blitz1
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Post by: kburjr on June 14, 2015, 07:20:31 PM
Yes, I'm beyond totally geeking out, but, well...

Yet another reason to love Jerry Rice:


Jerry RiceVerified account
‏@JerryRice

Who's ready for the @gameofthrones finale tonight ?

(I don't know how to post things from twitter, so I just copy/pasted)

blitz1


Just a little bit linger.....Breathe deeply, slowly  Make popcorn
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 14, 2015, 07:27:23 PM
I'm doing lil things around the house, instead.

Gawd, if the thing which leaked yesterday (the "previously on" was said to have been broadcast by Sky Austria)is legit, I swear, I'll lose it (in a good way).
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 14, 2015, 07:38:06 PM
If the Kentucky basketball team showed up and took out the White Walkers Cali might go into a coma.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 14, 2015, 07:48:33 PM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/DpB9NBjny7jF1pd0yt2/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 14, 2015, 09:27:11 PM
I won't post it, again, but what I posted above right before the episode...

Well, it's the same way I feel after the episode. grin1
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 14, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
well that sucked.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 14, 2015, 10:53:23 PM
well that sucked.
Cersei's titties ?

I could've predicted most of the things in that episode, except for Jon Snow's fate.  It probably would've been better to conclude the season after the Battle of Hardhome.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 14, 2015, 11:09:29 PM
Is Jon Snow really dead, though?

No, that isn't a spoiler.  Book readers don't know, either.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 14, 2015, 11:33:17 PM
Did not like.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 15, 2015, 12:05:53 AM
Is Jon Snow really dead, though?

No, that isn't a spoiler.  Book readers don't know, either.
Bitchy red lady is in the house.  Maybe she can save him like Whatsisface did for Beric Dondarrion...?
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 15, 2015, 12:13:15 AM
Bitchy red lady is in the house.  Maybe she can save him like Whatsisface did for Beric Dondarrion...?

Good point, didn't think of that.
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Post by: kburjr on June 15, 2015, 12:36:26 AM
It's a dream sequence.  The new Dallas.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 12:39:59 AM
Is Jon Snow really dead, though?

No, that isn't a spoiler.  Book readers don't know, either.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the books wasn't there steam or smoke rising from his wounds?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 15, 2015, 07:29:25 AM

Yet another reason to love Jerry Rice:


You mean the cheater responsible for permanently tainting Joe Montana's legacy?  Pffft, he's nothing without his precious stickum.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 15, 2015, 07:30:02 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the books wasn't there steam or smoke rising from his wounds?

It's cold up there by that big wall of ice.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 15, 2015, 07:31:38 AM
It's a dream sequence.  The new Dallas.

John Snow wakes up in bed with Bob Newhart?
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Post by: kburjr on June 15, 2015, 07:38:11 AM
John Snow wakes up in bed with Bob Newhart?

Stranger things have happened.  Not many, but a few
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 15, 2015, 07:44:26 AM
Several questions:

1) What are we supposed to make of the Arya situation?  It was fantastic to see her go through with the killing in full bad-ass mode, but I was unsure of what the following scene meant.

2) Was Cersei's confession at all genuine?  Will that experience change her?

3) The obvious that has already been asked: is Jon really dead?  I hope it's not just a case of his wounds weren't bad enough to kill him.  It's one of my pet peeves when people who know what they're doing try to kill someone but don't bother making sure the job is really finished.  If he's still alive, I hope it's through magic or some special power of his lineage.

The actor has said he's not coming back next season.  Am I reading too much into it, or could that mean he'll be gone for next season, but back after that?  Kind of like we expect Bran to come back.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 07:50:40 AM
1)no idea

2)I think she's going to want to see everyone burn

3)he's dead. Those stabs were deep. The blood looked like it went on for a good foot.

Did Sansa live or die? Is she crippled at the bottom? How do you make that jump after watching Ramsey's girlfriend fall moments before?
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 15, 2015, 08:01:28 AM
Did Sansa live or die? Is she crippled at the bottom? How do you make that jump after watching Ramsey's girlfriend fall moments before?

I wasn't even sure whether they were jumping to escape or to end it.  I'm assuming the former.  It is weird, though, that they'd escape by jumping from there, when we just saw someone die from falling from a shorter distance.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 08:06:01 AM
I assumed it was for escape, but to end it makes sense, too. Might seem a better option than Ramsey
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 08:07:54 AM
Especially a Ramsey who's girlfriend just died, most likely at the hand of the obvious
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 08:12:01 AM
I'm more surprised Stannis died than anyone
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 15, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
Several questions:

1) What are we supposed to make of the Arya situation?  It was fantastic to see her go through with the killing in full bad-ass mode, but I was unsure of what the following scene meant.
The ol' faceless man is pissed with her ?  I'm not aware of what influence the plot of the books will have, though it would seem as though her contribution to GoT isn't over.

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2) Was Cersei's confession at all genuine?  Will that experience change her?
It wasn't genuine.  She didn't admit to the larger sins, and the High Sparrow guessed there was more than just banging Lancel Lannister.

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3) The obvious that has already been asked: is Jon really dead?  I hope it's not just a case of his wounds weren't bad enough to kill him.  It's one of my pet peeves when people who know what they're doing try to kill someone but don't bother making sure the job is really finished.  If he's still alive, I hope it's through magic or some special power of his lineage.
Dunno.  He was stabbed pretty deeply in the chest and gut several times.  When reading about reaction to the episode elsewhere, some people noted how the long exit shot on his face and lying in a pool of his blood suggests we're meant to think about Jon Snow until next season.

There are still (!) four Starks left, and of the two that were ignored this season, at least Bran will have his story reignited though.

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The actor has said he's not coming back next season.  Am I reading too much into it, or could that mean he'll be gone for next season, but back after that?  Kind of like we expect Bran to come back.
HBO has been teasing that tennis comedy with Andy Samberg pretty hard, and he's in it.  It could be that that's his payoff for 5 seasons and/or reward for coming back for a 6th season ?
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 15, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
I'm more surprised Stannis died than anyone

Yes, although we don't even know that.  It seemed weird for a show so big on gore to not show him actually die or at least the aftermath.  The problem is that could go several ways:

1) They thought the way they did it was definitive enough and didn't need to actually show it.  In this case, he's dead.

2) They intentionally did it that way to leave it vague, but he is still dead.  They just wanted to fuck with people.

3) They did it that way intentionally to leave it vague because he's still alive. 

I'd say they're ranked in order of likelihood, as #1 seems the most likely option.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 08:53:45 AM
Arya has to eventually take the throne that is the only worthwhile conclusion now.  I was buying into the the Jon Snow is Robert's son and the true heir to the throne rumor but that is out the window.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 08:56:01 AM
Arya has to eventually take the throne that is the only worthwhile conclusion now.  I was buying into the the Jon Snow is Robert's son and the true heir to the throne rumor but that is out the window.
That was a stupid rumor.
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 15, 2015, 08:57:13 AM


Did Sansa live or die? Is she crippled at the bottom? How do you make that jump after watching Ramsey's girlfriend fall moments before?

Did they jump into the same area? Looked like they may have jumped into some snow banks.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 08:59:34 AM
Arya has to eventually take the throne that is the only worthwhile conclusion now.  I was buying into the the Jon Snow is Robert's son and the true heir to the throne rumor but that is out the window.
I don't think it'll be Arya. I think it'll be Bran. Where is Bran? How's he doin? Well?

Arya is being taught a lesson. Then she'll have her revenge. Then she'll die gloriously. Or at least that's my guess.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 09:01:04 AM
Did they jump into the same area? Looked like they may have jumped into some snow banks.
This
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
I don't think it'll be Arya. I think it'll be Bran. Where is Bran? How's he doin? Well?

Arya is being taught a lesson. Then she'll have her revenge. Then she'll die gloriously. Or at least that's my guess.
Neither Arya or Bran will sit on the throne. If it's anyone, it will be Dany.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 09:02:03 AM
Did they jump into the same area? Looked like they may have jumped into some snow banks.
really? I didn't see a bank. I'm sure they're gonna en up okay. It seems so anticlimactic otherwise. Of course, if we are to believe that the Hound and Stannis are dead, those were anticlimactic, too
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 09:02:56 AM
That was a stupid rumor.
Shut up stupid.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 09:03:33 AM
oh yeah, of course Dany.

unless they make her more and more like her father as she ages.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 09:03:55 AM
This is interesting from a review of the episode:

(**) Headey was far enough along in her pregnancy when this episode was shot that there was a lot of digital manipulation — as with scenes where Dany interacts with Drogon, some of it was more effective than others — to place her head on another woman's naked body. If there's an Emmy category for Outstanding Acting From the Neck Up, though, she's a lock, and her facial expressions throughout that sequence were so powerful that she could well win the real trophy.

Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/season-finale-review-game-of-thrones-mothers-mercy-walk-of-shame#bLqpKpp7sQAq68eY.99 (http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/season-finale-review-game-of-thrones-mothers-mercy-walk-of-shame#bLqpKpp7sQAq68eY.99)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 09:04:30 AM
Shut up stupid.
I mean, what had people thinking Jon was Robert's son? Nothing has even hinted at that. And, being a bastard that was never recognized, he would have 0 claim to the throne.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 09:05:11 AM
snowbanks at 30-40 feet is still trouble. my guess is that they lived, but they've gotta be at the base of that wall with broken legs.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 09:11:38 AM
I mean, what had people thinking Jon was Robert's son? Nothing has even hinted at that. And, being a bastard that was never recognized, he would have 0 claim to the throne.
If he was Robert's son then being recognized wouldn't have necessarily been a barrier to Jon taking the throne, there is already one bastard out there in hiding to preserve his life.  If true Ned Stark would have known and that would have given even another reason why the Lannisters needed him dead and couldn't afford to award him any mercy.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 09:18:03 AM
what's the timeline in regards to how long it has been since the rebellion? They way they spoke about Ned's sister, I wondered if he had rescued her son, who he named Jon and kept his identity secret as his son instead of his nephew.
but i haven't read the books, so I have no idea.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 15, 2015, 09:19:10 AM
i guess it probably doesn't matter at this point.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 09:29:25 AM
what's the timeline in regards to how long it has been since the rebellion? They way they spoke about Ned's sister, I wondered if he had rescued her son, who he named Jon and kept his identity secret as his son instead of his nephew.
but i haven't read the books, so I have no idea.
That is what the rumor was that Jon was the son of his sister and Robert.  They laid so much ground work talking about Ned's sister, she has been mentioned every season in some capacity, there has to be something in the future associated with her.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 15, 2015, 01:02:23 PM
Several questions:

1) What are we supposed to make of the Arya situation?  It was fantastic to see her go through with the killing in full bad-ass mode, but I was unsure of what the following scene meant.


There are several stages of Arya's training in the books.  One of those stages involves her being blind.


2) Was Cersei's confession at all genuine?  Will that experience change her?


Did you notice the look on her face when Qyburn said this guy has taken a vow of silence until all the Queen's enemies are defeated (or however he put it)?  I think that tells you, right there, the experience didn't change her...unless it was to make her even more vengeful/crazy.


3) The obvious that has already been asked: is Jon really dead?  I hope it's not just a case of his wounds weren't bad enough to kill him.  It's one of my pet peeves when people who know what they're doing try to kill someone but don't bother making sure the job is really finished.  If he's still alive, I hope it's through magic or some special power of his lineage.

The actor has said he's not coming back next season.  Am I reading too much into it, or could that mean he'll be gone for next season, but back after that?  Kind of like we expect Bran to come back.


My opinion?  No, he's not dead.  I mean, yeah, he is dead, but I don't believe he'll stay that way, although it could be a while before we see him, again.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 15, 2015, 01:05:13 PM
Regarding Sansa and Theon (not Reek!) jumping versus Myranda falling:

As has already been mentioned, Sansa and Theon jumped into a deep snow drift.  Myranda fell onto hard, solid ground.

Some of you are onto something in terms of the main theory about Jon's parentage...or at least you're hitting the mark in terms of who one of his parents is believed to be.
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Post by: PurpleReign on June 15, 2015, 02:15:23 PM
That is what the rumor was that Jon was the son of his sister and Robert.  They laid so much ground work talking about Ned's sister, she has been mentioned every season in some capacity, there has to be something in the future associated with her.

the rumor was Reagar T. not Robert B.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 15, 2015, 02:21:21 PM
How 'bout that walk of shame, eh?  Hummina!

I heard it's not Lena Headey though...some elaborite CGI.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 02:35:39 PM
How 'bout that walk of shame, eh?  Hummina!

I heard it's not Lena Headey though...some elaborite CGI.
Yeah they are saying she was pregnant during the shoot so had to use a body double.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 02:36:13 PM
How 'bout that walk of shame, eh?  Hummina!

I heard it's not Lena Headey though...some elaborite CGI.
Heady is, I believe, pregnant so they used a double and CGIed her face on.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 02:36:28 PM
the rumor was Reagar T. not Robert B.
This
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Post by: CHASER on June 15, 2015, 02:39:51 PM
Yeah they are saying she was pregnant during the shoot so had to use a body double.

Body Double...that movie was on last week. I'd have crushed that version of Melanie Griffith.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 15, 2015, 02:44:48 PM
Heady is, I believe, pregnant so they used a double and CGIed her face on.

There was definitely a body-double used for part of it, but not all of it (based on stuff published while the shoot was happening).  As for Lena Heady being pregnant, yes, she is, but it's unsure if she even knew she was pregnant at the time of filming.  The baby is duue in July, if I remember correctly, and the scene was shot in October.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 15, 2015, 03:05:52 PM
Yeah they are saying she was pregnant during the shoot so had to use a body double.

The way I see it, she owes us a full frontal in season 6.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 15, 2015, 03:39:20 PM
How 'bout that walk of shame, eh?  Hummina!

I heard it's not Lena Headey though...some elaborite CGI.

body double and CGI....
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Post by: Scuzz on June 15, 2015, 03:40:09 PM
Body Double...that movie was on last week. I'd have crushed that version of Melanie Griffith.

man has she been hit by a truck or what.....
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Post by: CHASER on June 15, 2015, 03:44:16 PM
man has she been hit by a truck or what.....

it got bad...real bad.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 15, 2015, 05:15:58 PM
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My opinion?  No, he's not dead.  I mean, yeah, he is dead, but I don't believe he'll stay that way, although it could be a while before we see him, again.
I missed this. And I agree. He may even sit out season 6 lime Bran and company did season 5. But I think his and the red witch's storylines will merge and he will end up being the Lord of Light's champion/incarnation whatever. I'm thinking his body and RW will disappear at the start of season 6 and the Onion Knight will spend the majority of the season looking for her. And I think Jon will end up sitting on the throne with Dany.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
How come the only brothers on this show are slaves or former slaves?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 15, 2015, 05:38:39 PM
How come the only brothers on this show are slaves or former slaves?

What about all the brother slave-masters in Meereen?
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Post by: CHASER on June 15, 2015, 05:46:58 PM
What about all the brother slave-masters in Meereen?

Uncle Toms
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 15, 2015, 05:55:32 PM
How come the only brothers on this show are slaves or former slaves?
Poor 401k planning.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 15, 2015, 05:58:42 PM
Uncle Toms

Hahaha...
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 15, 2015, 06:31:43 PM
Uncle Toms
What Preacher Man says.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 16, 2015, 10:08:21 AM
What about all the brother slave-masters in Meereen?
Why do white people always default to the "it was black people selling black people into slavery argument"?  Deflecting your white quilt back on the black man will not wash your consciences clean.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 16, 2015, 04:08:13 PM
Why do white people always default to the "it was black people selling black people into slavery argument"?  Deflecting your white quilt back on the black man will not wash your consciences clean.

Are you kidding me?
I keep my white quilt to myself (it's all warm and comfy, plus my great grandmother made it).
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 18, 2015, 12:16:52 PM
Okay, I was watching the finale again last night and I noticed something with Jon. When he is laying on the ground and bleeding out, the camera zooms in on his face. As this was happening, his eyes change color. It might just be a trick of the light or something, but they definitely turn a lighter color. Or maybe it's just my imagination.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 18, 2015, 12:32:28 PM
Okay, I was watching the finale again last night and I noticed something with Jon. When he is laying on the ground and bleeding out, the camera zooms in on his face. As this was happening, his eyes change color. It might just be a trick of the light or something, but they definitely turn a lighter color. Or maybe it's just my imagination.
No, I saw that too.  I think it's meant to mean he's dead. 
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 18, 2015, 12:50:03 PM
I was not prepared for Jon Snow getting "et tu Brutae'd" to death.


Shakespeare uber alles.
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Post by: poorbackslider on June 18, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
Okay, I was watching the finale again last night and I noticed something with Jon. When he is laying on the ground and bleeding out, the camera zooms in on his face. As this was happening, his eyes change color. It might just be a trick of the light or something, but they definitely turn a lighter color. Or maybe it's just my imagination.

WARG
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
WARG

one of many theories as to how he will return
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Post by: SteelerKing on June 18, 2015, 01:18:12 PM
One thing I've never understood is why the producers of the show didn't wait a couple more years to start filming.  The logistics of that make no sense to me.  If they so much as had the slightest understanding of the pace that GRRM writes his books, the show would be wrapping up season 3 right now with Winds of Winter hopefully coming out prior to the start of the next season.  That would have bought George three years for the final book and while it's doubtful he could even finish it in that amount of time, he would at least have the bulk of it written, possibly an entire first draft sans editing and revisions.  Doing things this way, they're shafting the loyal readers who will have the meat and potatoes of the entire final book spoiled for them, the loyal viewers who could end up with a final season that's vastly different from the final book, and even themselves if viewership goes down because the readers don't want the finale of the books spoiled by the show.  The cash grab would still be there so what gives?  It's plainly idiotic, imo, and I've thought that since I first heard about the show.     
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 01:21:17 PM
My guess is that GRRM told them he could get it done on time, and they took his word for it. But he become slower with every book in the series. I would bet that he has given them a pretty good outline of how he wraps up the series, and they are following that. However, since they are restricted now they are forced to condense characters, plots etc into 7 seasons and so even if they are following GRRM's outline it may appear much different.

I think any readers of the book could have told HBO GRRM wouldn't be done on time.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 18, 2015, 01:25:55 PM
one of many theories as to how he will return
I actually really like the Jon Snow possessed Dire Wolf theory....don't believe it will happen but really like it.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 01:36:56 PM
One thing I've never understood is why the producers of the show didn't wait a couple more years to start filming.  The logistics of that make no sense to me.  If they so much as had the slightest understanding of the pace that GRRM writes his books, the show would be wrapping up season 3 right now with Winds of Winter hopefully coming out prior to the start of the next season.  That would have bought George three years for the final book and while it's doubtful he could even finish it in that amount of time, he would at least have the bulk of it written, possibly an entire first draft sans editing and revisions.  Doing things this way, they're shafting the loyal readers who will have the meat and potatoes of the entire final book spoiled for them, the loyal viewers who could end up with a final season that's vastly different from the final book, and even themselves if viewership goes down because the readers don't want the finale of the books spoiled by the show.  The cash grab would still be there so what gives?  It's plainly idiotic, imo, and I've thought that since I first heard about the show.     

Well, the show couldn't have gotten off the ground without Martin agreeing to it, so as far as I'm concerned, any issue with the show passing the books lies firmly with Martin.

As for Jon, yeah, as Scuzz said, him warging into Ghost is one of the main theories.  It's also been established (in the show) at least one of the Stark kids is a warg, and Jon has at least learned about the existence of wargs from Orell.  There's also the little matter of Melisandre showing up at the Wall in the nick of time.  We know it is possible servants of R'hollor can ressurect the dead.  So, between Ghost and Melisandre, Jon will be back, on way, or another...imo.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 01:50:37 PM
I like the Jon leading an army of good zombies theory.

The battle of the zombies, what more could anyone ask for.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 01:59:22 PM
I like the Jon leading an army of good zombies theory.

The battle of the zombies, what more could anyone ask for.

It's an interesting possibility, but I like the warg idea more... at least that Jon temporarily wargs into Ghost.

I do think (hope) they've set us up for more direwolf action in the future, given the way they ended one of the character's story, this season.  If that story goes at all how it does in the books, it would be a great parallel to have Jon getting in on the warg-action, too.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 02:08:43 PM
It's an interesting possibility, but I like the warg idea more... at least that Jon temporarily wargs into Ghost.

I do think (hope) they've set us up for more direwolf action in the future, given the way they ended one of the character's story, this season.  If that story goes at all how it does in the books, it would be a great parallel to have Jon getting in on the warg-action, too.

My problem with the warg option is what does Jon do after that. Turn into Lassie somehow leading the fight while barking instructions. I mean does he somehow later re-enter his decaying body and scare the crap out of everyone. What is the end game with warging?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 02:15:00 PM
My problem with the warg option is what does Jon do after that. Turn into Lassie somehow leading the fight while barking instructions. I mean does he somehow later re-enter his decaying body and scare the crap out of everyone. What is the end game with warging?

I can't begin to hazard a guess.  All I can say is given Jon's location, I don't think his body decaying is really a concern.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 18, 2015, 02:20:58 PM
Jon Snow was, as I recall, one of the most sane male lead characters.   He and Tyrion.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 18, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
No one is asking the important question.  How does Khaleesi sit on that dragon without destroying her vagina?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 18, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
I'm thinking the eye change has something to do with his bloodline. 
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 02:43:59 PM
I'm thinking the eye change has something to do with his bloodline. 

I'll look for it, again, on a rewatch, but I already looked for the eye-change, once, and didn't see anything. 

I don't think it would have to do with his bloodline, though, because, well, I can't really say without possibly spoiling things some may not have figured out, yet.  Let's just say when the show started, they tried to use contacts to depict the feature I think you mean, and it didn't work onscreen, so they ditched it for everyone.  In fact, they tried it for the Starks, too, giving people gray contacts, and that didn't read onscreen, either, which is why Jon has brown eyes, instead of Stark gray eyes (which, I know, isn't what you were talking about).
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 18, 2015, 02:47:44 PM
No one is asking the important question.  How does Khaleesi sit on that dragon without destroying her vagina?


Heat tile Kotex mini-pads (she is a little woman) from the Space Shuttle?
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 02:49:45 PM
I can't begin to hazard a guess.  All I can say is given Jon's location, I don't think his body decaying is really a concern.


Okay...that is true. But it's not like the body will be healing itself while he is resting as a dire wolf.



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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 18, 2015, 02:49:45 PM
I'll look for it, again, on a rewatch, but I already looked for the eye-change, once, and didn't see anything. 

I don't think it would have to do with his bloodline, though, because, well, I can't really say without possibly spoiling things some may not have figured out, yet.  Let's just say when the show started, they tried to use contacts to depict the feature I think you mean, and it didn't work onscreen, so they ditched it for everyone.  In fact, they tried it for the Starks, too, giving people gray contacts, and that didn't read onscreen, either, which is why Jon has brown eyes, instead of Stark gray eyes (which, I know, isn't what you were talking about).

They better figure out the eye color change technology before the movie version of Drawing of the Three comes out.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 18, 2015, 02:50:17 PM

Heat tile Kotex mini-pads (she is a little woman) from the Space Shuttle?

That's a very specific solution.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 02:53:53 PM
No one is asking the important question.  How does Khaleesi sit on that dragon without destroying her vagina?

I noticed, when she tried to climb on Drogon to fly her back home, he flattened the...whatever you call them...on his back. 
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 02:55:02 PM

Okay...that is true. But it's not like the body will be healing itself while he is resting as a dire wolf.





That's where the vile red-haired bitch comes in...the vile red-haired bitch who really needs to be slowly burned alive, although if she brings Jon Snow back, she can get a bit of a reprieve.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 03:00:25 PM
That's where the vile red-haired bitch comes in...the vile red-haired bitch who really needs to be slowly burned alive, although if she brings Jon Snow back, she can get a bit of a reprieve.

and become real popular with the night's watch
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 03:06:30 PM
and become real popular with the night's watch

Just turn her over to Wun Wun (although I wouldn't wish that upon Wun Wun).

I know, it's geeky as hell, but I am soooooooooooooooo happy we got Wun Wun!!!
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Post by: kburjr on June 18, 2015, 03:13:38 PM
the vile red-haired bitch

I have got to get cable!!
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 18, 2015, 03:16:46 PM
I noticed, when she tried to climb on Drogon to fly her back home, he flattened the...whatever you call them...on his back. 

Dragon Dildos?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 03:20:38 PM
I have got to get cable!!

(http://cdn2.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Melisandre_slider.jpg)

As I'm sure the boys will be quick to point out, she gets nekkid a lot (although probably not enough to suit them).
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 18, 2015, 03:37:32 PM
That's where the vile red-haired bitch comes in...the vile red-haired bitch who really needs to be slowly burned alive, although if she brings Jon Snow back, she can get a bit of a reprieve.

If she shows her milky globes again, all will be forgiven.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 03:46:26 PM
If she shows her milky globes again, all will be forgiven.

You boys...facepalm

Burn a child? 
Flash your bewbs, and I'll forgive you. ;)
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 03:56:06 PM
You boys...facepalm

Burn a child? 
Flash your bewbs, and I'll forgive you. ;)

yea....you got a problem with that
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 18, 2015, 04:00:22 PM
You boys...facepalm

Burn a child? 
Flash your bewbs, and I'll forgive you. ;)

The kid was kind of ugly.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 18, 2015, 04:01:34 PM
If she shows her milky globes again, all will be forgiven.


She did try to put the starch back in his shorts but 1)  Snow said he was still grieving or 2) he didn't, rightfully, trust her.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 04:08:48 PM
yea....you got a problem with that

No, not really.
In truth, I'm envious.
I wish I could forgive people as easily.

I'm soooo fuckin' pissed at you...oh...bewbs...we're good.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 18, 2015, 04:54:09 PM
No, not really.
In truth, I'm envious.
I wish I could forgive people as easily.

I'm soooo fuckin' pissed at you...oh...bewbs...we're good.

I thought women knew how to use that against us guys? You spent how much on what...oh bewbs....we're good.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
I thought women knew how to use that against us guys? You spent how much on what...oh bewbs....we're good.

Well, yeah, but it doesn't work the other way.
A guys bewbs do nothing for me.

Also, I don't spend men's money.  I spend what I've earned on my own, so no guy has ever had reason to be pissed at me for buying something. grin1
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 18, 2015, 08:48:12 PM
Well, yeah, but it doesn't work the other way.
A guys bewbs do nothing for me.

Also, I don't spend men's money.  I spend what I've earned on my own, so no guy has ever had reason to be pissed at me for buying something. grin1

Well that sucks.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 18, 2015, 08:51:38 PM
Well that sucks.

What sucks?
That it doesn't work the other way, or that I don't spend their money, thus don't flash my bewbs to get them to forgive me?

If it's the latter, it works out great.  If I flash my bewbs, it isn't as a forgive me, it's just as a hey...I just thought I'd brighten your day. anklebiter1
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Post by: Paul4Cats on June 18, 2015, 09:00:59 PM
What sucks?

That.
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Post by: Jeep99tj on June 18, 2015, 09:04:07 PM
What sucks?
That it doesn't work the other way, or that I don't spend their money, thus don't flash my bewbs to get them to forgive me?

If it's the latter, it works out great.  If I flash my bewbs, it isn't as a forgive me, it's just as a hey...I just thought I'd brighten your day. anklebiter1

I'll go with the latter.   grin1
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 18, 2015, 11:18:05 PM
What sucks?
That it doesn't work the other way, or that I don't spend their money, thus don't flash my bewbs to get them to forgive me?

If it's the latter, it works out great.  If I flash my bewbs, it isn't as a forgive me, it's just as a hey...I just thought I'd brighten your day. anklebiter1
Pics? (he asked sarcastically)
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Post by: Paul4Cats on June 18, 2015, 11:43:29 PM
  If I flash my bewbs, it isn't as a forgive me, it's just as a hey...I just thought I'd brighten your day.
"prove it"

-peter Paul
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 19, 2015, 03:01:19 PM
Pics? (he asked sarcastically)

"prove it"

-peter Paul

"If" was the operative word in my post.

Anyway, what in the world makes y'all think I'd wanna brighten your day??? thumb1





(http://hannahmariebarr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/game-of-thrones-bleed-out1.gif)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 19, 2015, 03:02:24 PM
"If" was the operative word in my post.

Anyway, what in the world makes y'all think I'd wanna brighten your day??? thumb1





(http://hannahmariebarr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/game-of-thrones-bleed-out1.gif)
bitch
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 19, 2015, 03:04:01 PM
"If" was the operative word in my post.

Anyway, what in the world makes y'all think I'd wanna brighten your day??? thumb1





(http://hannahmariebarr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/game-of-thrones-bleed-out1.gif)
"If" was the operative word in my post.

Anyway, what in the world makes y'all think I'd wanna brighten your day??? thumb1





(http://hannahmariebarr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/game-of-thrones-bleed-out1.gif)
I don't see the eye change.
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Post by: fear and loathing on June 19, 2015, 03:06:24 PM
Is this sort of a "live game thread"?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 19, 2015, 03:46:11 PM
bitch

Yeah, I thought the addition of a "Jon Snow bleeding out" gif would lend my post that extra oomph it needed. cali1

Is this sort of a "live game thread"?

A live Game thread?

Sort of.
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Post by: Raylan Michael Molnar on June 19, 2015, 03:50:40 PM
I don't see the eye change.

Slight glint in a fraction of a second. 
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 19, 2015, 04:03:03 PM
(http://hannahmariebarr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/game-of-thrones-bleed-out1.gif)

I too, used to wet the bed  chic1
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2015, 04:08:20 PM
So now what do we do for like 10 months?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 19, 2015, 04:12:45 PM
I like following the casting.
It's fun to speculate what casting this or that character means.

For instance, I already know of quite a few characters being cast for Season 6.
Unlike in previous years, they aren't revealing the names of the characters, just giving descriptions, so it's even more fun to try and figure out who matches the descriptions...at least for me.

As for others, I'm sure a couple of them will go blind trying in desperation to see the eye-color change which isn't there.

Some will dreams of bewbs to come.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 19, 2015, 04:14:29 PM

Some will dreams of bewbs to come.
Better than Nathalie Emmanuel ?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 19, 2015, 04:57:49 PM
Better than Nathalie Emmanuel ?
Rosabell Sellers already bested her.
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Post by: tnzazz on June 20, 2015, 11:06:28 PM
Holy shit!  I just finished it. I guess John Snow really did know nothing. I hate that.
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Post by: SteelerKing on June 21, 2015, 01:37:57 PM
I'm not seeing a change in Jon's eyes in that final scene where he's bleeding out either.  In fact, the lack of an obvious eye change may very well disprove the warg theory.  His eyes would have had to take on the same milky white, rolled back in their sockets quality that everyone else's do when they warg into something.   

Despite all the theories floating around and what would seem to be a wasteful amount of build up involving his character (unless it was all just a deliberate smoke screen), there's a real good chance he's simply dead and gone.  Both the directors of the show and Kit Harrington are adamant that Jon Snow is done.  With that kind of insistence, I'm thinking the only other possibility is that "Jon Snow" is resurrected as something/someone else a la Lady Stoneheart (for those who know the books).   
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 21, 2015, 01:47:45 PM
I'm not seeing a change in Jon's eyes in that final scene where he's bleeding out either.  In fact, the lack of an obvious eye change may very well disprove the warg theory.  His eyes would have had to take on the same milky white, rolled back in their sockets quality that everyone else's do when they warg into something.   

Despite all the theories floating around and what would seem to be a wasteful amount of build up involving his character (unless it was all just a deliberate smoke screen), there's a real good chance he's simply dead and gone.  Both the directors of the show and Kit Harrington are adamant that Jon Snow is done.  With that kind of insistence, I'm thinking the only other possibility is that "Jon Snow" is resurrected as something/someone else a la Lady Stoneheart (for those who know the books).   
The thing with Harrington is that even though he and the show runners are insisting Jon is dead, an article came out before this season  about the contract negotiations of the actors and Harrington's name came up as one of the big signings for seasons 7.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 21, 2015, 01:57:28 PM
Yeah, there are lots of things which point in both directions...including the actress who plays the Red Bitch saying she has another big scene with him (in an interview after she tried to hump him), the fact she showed up at the Wall in the nick of time, and rumors Kit Harrington has been seen around Belfast.  I understand why they'd do so much press saying he's dead...why would they want to ruin the cliffhanger?  Only time will tell, though.

You're right about what what his eyes would need to do to show he warged, but maybe that happened the instant after the camera cut away?

I think he's dead, I just don't think he is going to stay that way.  I read an idea I really liked, that by virtue of having died, he is released from his Night's Watch vows, so when he's resurrected, he can lead a march on Winterfell.

There's an outside chance he's dead and he'll just stay dead, but even though I'm not a huge Jon Snow fan (don't have a problem with him, there are just other characters I like more), I'd be pretty bummed if he's really dead-dead. 
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Post by: SteelerKing on June 21, 2015, 02:01:11 PM
The thing with Harrington is that even though he and the show runners are insisting Jon is dead, an article came out before this season  about the contract negotiations of the actors and Harrington's name came up as one of the big signings for seasons 7.

That still leaves the door open to the possibility that Jon Snow (as we know him) is dead and gone.  Harrington and the directors wouldn't be lying and Jon could still be resurrected as "The Lord of Light" or some other incarnation where he's no longer Jon Snow.  Another possibility is that the contract report is made up or phrased very carefully because they didn't want information circulating about Harrington not being signed on for future seasons lest they tip their hand.  The inverse of that is also true.  Why "spoil" the ending scene of the season finale by revealing that Jon is back again next season?  I could see any of those possibilities or something similar but I don't think they'd be so insistent about him being done if he wasn't, at bare minimum, going to be coming back as something/someone else. 
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Post by: SteelerKing on June 21, 2015, 02:08:09 PM
I think he's dead, I just don't think he is going to stay that way.  I read an idea I really liked, that by virtue of having died, he is released from his Night's Watch vows, so when he's resurrected, he can lead a march on Winterfell.

Yeah that falls in line with what I'm saying.  I remember reading something similar once upon a time but I'm about two years removed from any book discussion at this point since the last one is already four years old.  facepalm

Hurry up, George.  Time's a-wasting, Winter is Coming, you still have two books to go, and you're not getting any younger.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 21, 2015, 02:24:55 PM
I've seen the same idea of him being released from his vow since he died.  That's why I think he ends up on the Iron Throne.

And I agree that he will be different when he comes back, but still essentially Jon Snow.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 21, 2015, 02:32:29 PM
Yeah that falls in line with what I'm saying.  I remember reading something similar once upon a time but I'm about two years removed from any book discussion at this point since the last one is already four years old.  facepalm

Hurry up, George.  Time's a-wasting, Winter is Coming, you still have two books to go, and you're not getting any younger.

That's another thing.  I kind of think things were left exactly the way they were with Jon Snow onscreen as a last attempt to let Martin get TWOW published before season 6 can spoil basically all of it.
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Post by: SteelerKing on June 21, 2015, 02:58:33 PM
It's also possible that Melisandre just brings him back like what Thoros of Myr does for Beric Dondarrion but that wouldn't explain away the producers/directors and the actor himself insisting that "Jon Snow is dead".  Here are some quotes from Kit Harrington, David Nutter, and D.B. Weiss that suggest he may very well just simply be dead and done:

"I had a sit-down with Dan and David, we did the Tony Soprano walk [letting an actor know they're being whacked]. And they said, 'Look, you're gone, it's done.' Quite honestly, I have never been told the future of things in this show, but this is the one time I have. They sat me down and said, 'This is how it is.' If anything in the future is not like that, then I don't know about it — it's only in David [Benioff] and Dan [Weiss] and George [R.R. Martin]'s heads. But I've been told I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm not coming back next season." - Kit Harrington

"It wasn't unlike the Red Wedding where everyone gets attached to people when you work with them for such a long time. You really grow quite fond of each other . . . I wanted the scene to happen rather quickly, where it didn't hang at all. That it would happen before you know it." When asked outright, Nutter put it bluntly: "Jon Snow is dead." - David Nutter

"Dead is dead . . . It should be pretty clear what happens by the time you're done seeing that scene. It's not an, 'Oh, what just happened?' scene." - D.B. Weiss

So there still is the possibility that all of these theories are nothing more than wishful thinking and the product of denial.  I'd be bummed if he really is gone from the series but it's not like George has never done something like that to us before. 

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Post by: tnzazz on June 21, 2015, 03:22:05 PM
He was my favorite for the Iron Throne. I think he becomes part of his Dire Wolf and comes back at some point.

Then again, he could be gone. I hope not.
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Post by: tnzazz on June 21, 2015, 03:24:32 PM

That's another thing.  I kind of think things were left exactly the way they were with Jon Snow onscreen as a last attempt to let Martin get TWOW published before season 6 can spoil basically all of it.

Yeah, I think that was the nugget he allowed to go forth with until the book comes out.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 21, 2015, 03:55:07 PM
SteelerKing - I'd seen all those articles (although others may not have), and my opinion was given with all that stuff in mind.

Yeah, I think that was the nugget he allowed to go forth with until the book comes out.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but if the book doesn't come out before season 6, they aren't going to wait any longer for him to finish.  The scripts for season 6 are well underway, and shooting beings in July.  Either the book gets published, and Martin gets to tell that part of his story on his own terms, or it doesn't, and people will have some idea of what happens as told through others.
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Post by: tnzazz on June 22, 2015, 06:48:57 AM

SteelerKing - I'd seen all those articles (although others may not have), and my opinion was given with all that stuff in mind.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but if the book doesn't come out before season 6, they aren't going to wait any longer for him to finish.  The scripts for season 6 are well underway, and shooting beings in July.  Either the book gets published, and Martin gets to tell that part of his story on his own terms, or it doesn't, and people will have some idea of what happens as told through others.

I think the writers have a pretty good idea of what is in the next book. I would be surprised if the book doesn't come out by next season, then again, it's Martin. I could be wrong, but hasn't he been helping as a writer for the show?

I heard they also plan to go back into the previous books. Eulon Greyjoy and Tarlly.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 22, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
I think the writers have a pretty good idea of what is in the next book. I would be surprised if the book doesn't come out by next season, then again, it's Martin. I could be wrong, but hasn't he been helping as a writer for the show?

I heard they also plan to go back into the previous books. Eulon Greyjoy and Tarlly.

Yeah, Martin gave them an outline for what he plans to do in the last two books.  He had been writing for the show, but he didn't for this last season and he won't be for the next season.  Yes, from the way the casting descriptions read, they are planning on introducing Euron and Randyll Tarly, but I doubt they'll be going too much into their stuff from the already published material...just enough to set the stage for whatever they'll be doing in the yet to be published books.
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 22, 2015, 01:28:18 PM
SteelerKing - I'd seen all those articles (although others may not have), and my opinion was given with all that stuff in mind.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but if the book doesn't come out before season 6, they aren't going to wait any longer for him to finish.  The scripts for season 6 are well underway, and shooting beings in July.  Either the book gets published, and Martin gets to tell that part of his story on his own terms, or it doesn't, and people will have some idea of what happens as told through others.

This is what intrigues me.  Even if book 6 comes out before season 6, the season will still be based on Martin's outline he gave to them.  As you say, shooting is going to begin well before the book comes out, so we'll have a full season that doesn't have a full book's details to go on.  As a non-book reader, I'm happy about it.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 22, 2015, 01:30:32 PM
Yeah, Martin gave them an outline for what he plans to do in the last two books.  He had been writing for the show, but he didn't for this last season and he won't be for the next season.  Yes, from the way the casting descriptions read, they are planning on introducing Euron and Randyll Tarly, but I doubt they'll be going too much into their stuff from the already published material...just enough to set the stage for whatever they'll be doing in the yet to be published books.
At this point I would hire an established writer to co-write these books and get them out.  I almost seems as Martin has gotten bored writing these things anyway and prefers to consult on the show.  By now he should have enough funds to set himself up for life (which let's be honest at his age and weight won't be terribly long) so knock em out then take a break and revisit other parts of the world.

He will be able to cash in on this world for the rest of his life if he plays his cards right.  I mean if the show remains as popular as it is HBO is going to want to keep going especially since the kill so many people off which keeps the actor salaries down.  If someone complains and wants more per episode you just kill them and no one cares because we have come it expect it!!!

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Post by: SteelerKing on June 22, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
This is what intrigues me.  Even if book 6 comes out before season 6, the season will still be based on Martin's outline he gave to them.  As you say, shooting is going to begin well before the book comes out, so we'll have a full season that doesn't have a full book's details to go on.  As a non-book reader, I'm happy about it.

I'm willing to bet that season 6 will have all of the details down to verbatim dialogue to work with.  Whether they choose to religiously adhere to that material is another matter, but if Winds of Winter is projected to be released prior to season 6, a rough draft of it is already close to being finished.  Maybe fully finished with the next six months or so dedicated to the revision and editing process before all the pre-release and release activities get under way (possibly wishful thinking).  Season 7 will be based almost entirely on an outline without any minutiae of details to work with though.   
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Post by: tnzazz on June 22, 2015, 02:40:48 PM

Yeah, Martin gave them an outline for what he plans to do in the last two books.  He had been writing for the show, but he didn't for this last season and he won't be for the next season.  Yes, from the way the casting descriptions read, they are planning on introducing Euron and Randyll Tarly, but I doubt they'll be going too much into their stuff from the already published material...just enough to set the stage for whatever they'll be doing in the yet to be published books.

Gotcha and I agree.
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Post by: tnzazz on June 22, 2015, 02:42:19 PM

At this point I would hire an established writer to co-write these books and get them out.  I almost seems as Martin has gotten bored writing these things anyway and prefers to consult on the show.  By now he should have enough funds to set himself up for life (which let's be honest at his age and weight won't be terribly long) so knock em out then take a break and revisit other parts of the world.

He will be able to cash in on this world for the rest of his life if he plays his cards right.  I mean if the show remains as popular as it is HBO is going to want to keep going especially since the kill so many people off which keeps the actor salaries down.  If someone complains and wants more per episode you just kill them and no one cares because we have come it expect it!!!

Yep, Martin not getting the books out scares me because of what you stated. Dude needs to finish this epic.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 22, 2015, 03:44:43 PM
GRRM has already said that there will be no co-author and that if he dies before the series is finished the series dies with him.....no writer will be authorized by his estate to finish them.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 22, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
GRRM has already said that there will be no co-author and that if he dies before the series is finished the series dies with him.....no writer will be authorized by his estate to finish them.

At least, if that happens, we'll have the show, so at least we'll have a broad sketch of how he wanted it to end.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 22, 2015, 04:23:38 PM
At least, if that happens, we'll have the show, so at least we'll have a broad sketch of how he wanted it to end.

maybe.......
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 22, 2015, 04:35:12 PM
maybe.......

What do you mean, "maybe?"
Do you think Martin intentionally mislead them regarding where he's going with the last two books?
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Post by: Scuzz on June 22, 2015, 04:50:10 PM
What do you mean, "maybe?"
Do you think Martin intentionally mislead them regarding where he's going with the last two books?

I wonder how much he gave them. Because at some point (especially now with the show having passed the book) we are going to get leaks of plot lines from somebody in the know.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 22, 2015, 05:08:56 PM
I wonder how much he gave them. Because at some point (especially now with the show having passed the book) we are going to get leaks of plot lines from somebody in the know.

There was some interview a few months ago where the show-runners talked about going down to Sante Fe, and Martin giving them everything.

It seems like most of the plot-line leaks I've seen have come from extras.  Stuff inevitably leaks out during shooting, but I'd guess most people want to keep their jobs/not take the chance of getting blacklisted, so keep their mouths shut.  In the huge scenes, it would be tough to trace which extra let out what information.  For instance, I'd read certain things about Hardhome based upon the "report" of an extra (knew about the wights doing the lemming thing off the cliff, that the Night's King would be making an appearance, and that the Night's King would be involved in a major resurrection.  Other than it giving the information the Night's King would be there, which is kinda big, the rest didn't really spoil anything.  A lot of people, when told about the major resurrection the Night's King would cause, they thought it meant Jon Snow would die there and the NK would resurrect him.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 22, 2015, 05:11:04 PM
This is from an article published last spring:

“Last year we went out to Santa Fe for a week to sit down with [Martin] and just talk through where things are going, because we don’t know if we are going to catch up and where exactly that would be," Benioff says in the April issue of Vanity Fair. "If you know the ending, then you can lay the groundwork for it. And so we want to know how everything ends. We want to be able to set things up. So we just sat down with him and literally went through every character.”
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Post by: tnzazz on June 22, 2015, 05:11:42 PM

This is from an article published last spring:

“Last year we went out to Santa Fe for a week to sit down with [Martin] and just talk through where things are going, because we don’t know if we are going to catch up and where exactly that would be," Benioff says in the April issue of Vanity Fair. "If you know the ending, then you can lay the groundwork for it. And so we want to know how everything ends. We want to be able to set things up. So we just sat down with him and literally went through every character.”

I remember reading that article in VF.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 22, 2015, 05:21:59 PM
and you trust GRRM to tell them how he plans on ending the books?     :)
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 22, 2015, 05:29:58 PM
Well, I think "trust" is too strong a word, but I do think he told them how he really plans on ending them, yes.  I'd guess, even though he doesn't have a lot of control, he'd want the show to accurately represent as many of the broad strokes as possible.  I'd also guess, while I'm sure he'd prefer the show-runners had taken different routes on some things, he trusts them as much as he'd trust anyone to try and do his story (at least the broad-strokes) justice in a visual representation.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 22, 2015, 08:07:12 PM
At least, if that happens, we'll have the show, so at least we'll have a broad sketch of how he wanted it to end.
What I'm hearing from people who've read the books, is that it's substantially different, and GRRM is still plodding along with a plot that is increasingly boring.  Such people still might like the books, but recognize that the show is more likely to have a better ending.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 22, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
What I'm hearing from people who've read the books, is that it's substantially different, and GRRM is still plodding along with a plot that is increasingly boring.  Such people still might like the books, but recognize that the show is more likely to have a better ending.

Some things have happened differently from how they happen in the books, some have happened in almost exactly the same way.  This last season was basically an adaptation of books 4 and 5.  They cut a lot of stuff, but most of what was cut wasn't that great, anyway, and the few things which were cut from season 5, but I'm guessing are important for the end-game, are being brought into season 6.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 22, 2015, 08:25:42 PM
Some things have happened differently from how they happen in the books, some have happened in almost exactly the same way.  This last season was basically an adaptation of books 4 and 5.  They cut a lot of stuff, but most of what was cut wasn't that great, anyway, and the few things which were cut from season 5, but I'm guessing are important for the end-game, are being brought into season 6.
There's also the effect of bleed-over from GoT on HBO to the books.  GRRM's the "creative consultant" on the HBO show, so even if he's not as integral to the writing, he's still subject to the writing.  I don't know what the phenomenon is called.
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Post by: wild-turkey on June 22, 2015, 10:08:39 PM
GRRM has already said that there will be no co-author and that if he dies before the series is finished the series dies with him.....no writer will be authorized by his estate to finish them.
Well he is stubborn and stupid.
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Post by: tnzazz on June 23, 2015, 08:21:14 AM

What I'm hearing from people who've read the books, is that it's substantially different, and GRRM is still plodding along with a plot that is increasingly boring.  Such people still might like the books, but recognize that the show is more likely to have a better ending.

The books are awesome!  There are some differences but not that many. A lot of it is switching characters around or combining them.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 23, 2015, 11:10:15 AM
GRRM had nothing to do with the writing in the past season, other than maybe giving them an outline of where the books would be going.

The show has deleted characters, combined characters and changed characters from the book. But other than one main character (Sansa) I can't think of anything way beyond what the book has shown.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 23, 2015, 11:13:10 AM
The books are awesome! 

No bewbs.
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Post by: tnzazz on June 23, 2015, 12:15:58 PM

No bewbs.

True and there are some great ones in the show.
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Post by: SteelerKing on June 23, 2015, 01:57:13 PM
What I'm hearing from people who've read the books, is that it's substantially different, and GRRM is still plodding along with a plot that is increasingly boring.  Such people still might like the books, but recognize that the show is more likely to have a better ending.

I'm one of those.  The first three books in the series were some of my favorite works of fantasy but the fourth nearly lost me as a fan.  All of my favorite characters were excluded for over 1000 pages and the pace was absolutely glacial while he introduced a myriad of others that I couldn't given 2/5 of a shit about.  For those of you who only watch the show, it would be like watching an entire season without Tyrion, Daenerys, and Jon Snow.  He then follows up this colossal flop with another entry that was just as glacial, at least as far as advancing the main plot.  Its one saving grace was at least getting the reader back in touch with the major characters who were absent from A Feast for Crows but the whole thing felt like filler to me. 

For as much as I've loved the story as a whole and loved the first three books, if GRRM doesn't figure out a way to right the ship with the next one, there's a chance I'll forego reading the final book and that the series itself will quite possibly become one of the most disappointing that I've ever read.  It's already the most frustrating for the reasons I've given.  In short: the first three books > the show; the show >>>>> the last two books.   
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Post by: Scuzz on June 23, 2015, 01:58:25 PM
Books 4-5 were slow as hell. Four especially.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 23, 2015, 04:03:02 PM
GRRM had nothing to do with the writing in the past season, other than maybe giving them an outline of where the books would be going.


Actually, he apparently reads through all the scripts and gives notes.


The show has deleted characters, combined characters and changed characters from the book. But other than one main character (Sansa) I can't think of anything way beyond what the book has shown.

Sansa in Winterfell was vastly preferable, imo, to having her spend a season twidling her thumbs around the Vale.  As far as going ahead, yeah, I'd say other than Stannis (which includes Shireen) and the Battle for Winterfell, they didn't go too much into material from the next book.

I agree with those who say the 4th book was pretty painful.  There were a few parts I enjoyed, but mostly I was just trying to get through it to get to all the characters who didn't appear again until the 5th book.
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Post by: tnzazz on June 23, 2015, 05:13:08 PM
Yeah, the 4th was boring but most book series or any series will have a dud.

IDK, I think this next book has everyone in place and carnage will begin.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2015, 06:30:25 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIbvuxBVEAATTjV.jpg)
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Post by: Scuzz on June 26, 2015, 06:47:44 PM
Barnes an dNoble was selling "dolls" that look like that. I came really close to getting the Tyrion one.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2015, 06:54:20 PM
Barnes an dNoble was selling "dolls" that look like that. I came really close to getting the Tyrion one.

Yeah, I've done a good job of avoiding buying any of that sort of stuff, but the one thing I will get (which I've been meaning to or a while, and still haven't) is a baby drogon.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2015, 06:55:10 PM
That was off something someone sent me from twitter, but I don't know how to copy a twitter post, so all that got copied was the picture.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 02, 2015, 03:02:13 PM
Ok, some of these are pretty fuckin' funny...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/gallery/cage-of-thrones-nicolas-cage-as-every-game-of-thrones-character/ss-AAcmBr8?ocid=iehp
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 02, 2015, 04:41:27 PM
Lol. My favorite was Arya Cage.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 02, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
Do we make a new thread for season 6 or change the title of this one?
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 02, 2015, 04:46:01 PM
I'm not sure I can pick a favorite.
Some of the expressions picked were so perfect...Arya, Brienne, the raised eyebrow for Cersei...
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 02, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Do we make a new thread for season 6 or change the title of this one?

I just changed the title from season 4 to season 5, so may as well just change it for season 6.
Hopefully, there will be a casting announcement in 8 days.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 02, 2015, 04:54:54 PM
I just changed the title from season 4 to season 5, so may as well just change it for season 6.
Hopefully, there will be a casting announcement in 8 days.
I didn't realize you did that.

And yeah, I'm sure we'll hear something about out of Comic-Con.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 02, 2015, 05:07:51 PM
I didn't realize you did that.

And yeah, I'm sure we'll hear something about out of Comic-Con.

Hmmm...I think I'll go on and change it in hopes there will be some season 6 stuff out of Comic-Con.
I think they have done a casting announcement every year they've been there.
Maybe there was one season where they didn't, but if so, it was only one.
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Post by: Paul4Cats on July 02, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
I didn't realize you did that.
You have no idea.  Cali can do a lot of things. 

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/912007/hey-baby-o.gif)

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Post by: Scuzz on July 02, 2015, 06:37:06 PM
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/30/game-thrones-toys



Check these out.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 02, 2015, 11:24:03 PM
I saw those on the GoT site I like to read.

Very cool.

Someone suggested the next round of environments should include the Dreadfort's dungeon...
Complete with people with removable skin.
(I guess that means they should also include a Theon with a removable penis.)

Someone else suggested a "Removable Head Ned."

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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 02, 2015, 11:25:17 PM
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/30/game-thrones-toys



Check these out.
Holy shit balls
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Post by: Scuzz on July 08, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
http://winteriscoming.net/2015/02/05/george-rr-martin-original-game-of-thrones-pitch/


A story on GRRM's original pitching of the story.

Things have changed.
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Post by: geneh_33 on July 08, 2015, 07:17:15 PM
No bewbs.

Then they must suck... or not....
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 08, 2015, 08:41:54 PM
http://winteriscoming.net/2015/02/05/george-rr-martin-original-game-of-thrones-pitch/


A story on GRRM's original pitching of the story.

Things have changed.

Oooo...Wicnet is e-v-i-l. 
Everything which used to be good about that place can now be found on watchersonthewall.com.

All the the original writers for wicnet left and started WotW, so now wicnet just regurgitates the scoops WotW gets.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 09, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
btw - Tomorrow is the GoT panel at SDCC.  It starts at 2:30 PT.

Game of Thrones (2:30PM, Hall H). The GAME OF THRONES panel in Hall H at 2:30 p.m. will be moderated by Seth Meyers (“Late Night with Seth Meyers”). Panelists include: executive producer Carolyn Strauss, director David Nutter and cast members (in alphabetical order) Alfie Allen (Theon/Reek), John Bradley (Samwell Tarly), Gwendoline Christie (Brienne of Tarth), Liam Cunningham (Ser Davos Seaworth), Natalie Dormer (Margaery Tyrell), Conleth Hill (Varys), Hannah Murray (Gilly), Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark), Carice van Houten (Melissandre) and Maisie Williams (Arya Stark).
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Post by: Misterfamous on July 09, 2015, 03:03:50 PM
I'm not sure I can pick a favorite.
Some of the expressions picked were so perfect...Arya, Brienne, the raised eyebrow for Cersei...
Brienne was pretty good.  Then again, she's a pretty manly big bitch.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 10, 2015, 05:47:40 PM
No casting news out of Comic Con.  :(
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 15, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-tower-of-joy-adds-fuel-to-jon-snow-fan-theory-amid-predictions-of-ned-starks-return-10390144.html

Hell yes
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on July 15, 2015, 02:35:03 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-tower-of-joy-adds-fuel-to-jon-snow-fan-theory-amid-predictions-of-ned-starks-return-10390144.html
Hell yes

Ned Stark is coming back?  Will they be introducing Lord Ichabod Crane as well?
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 15, 2015, 02:40:44 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-tower-of-joy-adds-fuel-to-jon-snow-fan-theory-amid-predictions-of-ned-starks-return-10390144.html

Hell yes

Wow.  Someone has been reading theories on the fan-sites, but the article is a little late (although I guess not to those who aren't as geeky as I am about it).  Yes, there are a couple of locations people think could very well be the ToJ, yes, there was a casting call that sounded like it almost had to be Ser Arthur Dayne, and yes, many people are salivating over the prospect.  Nothing, however, is confirmed.  That said, I'm really hoping for it, myself.

If you're interested in this sort of thing, Kipp, check out watchersonthewall.com.  That's the site which seems to get all the casting and location news first.  You'll have to scroll through a lot of articles, but over the past few weeks they've posted the casting calls which have gone out, and they have pictures of various locations being used for the upcoming season (lots of different places throughout Spain, in particular).
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 15, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
Ned Stark is coming back?  Will they be introducing Lord Ichabod Crane as well?
Flashback
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on July 15, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
Flashback

UGH.  Flashback time usually represents a show jumping the shark if you ask me.  They should bring him back from the dead, Lady Stoneheart-style.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 15, 2015, 02:49:49 PM
Ned Stark is coming back?  Will they be introducing Lord Ichabod Crane as well?

That's what I forgot.  A while back, there was mention of a scene filmed in the Godswood of Winterfell in the first season (with Sean Bean) which was never used.  Some think that could be one of the things Bran sees through the Weirnet.

If the casting call everyone thinks is for Ser Aurthur Dayne is, yes, it leads to a good chance of the ToJ.  There's also a theory out there, though, that his sword, Dawn, is also Lightbringer (which won't mean anything to those who haven't read the books), and that could be the reason for his casting. 

So far there has been no mention of a casting call for anyone who could be Lyanna, but of course, that doesn't mean she won't be cast. 

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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 15, 2015, 03:11:27 PM
UGH.  Flashback time usually represents a show jumping the shark if you ask me.  They should bring him back from the dead, Lady Stoneheart-style.
Well, good thing no one asked you.

As for Lady Stoneheart, I don't think we will see that on the show.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on July 15, 2015, 03:51:02 PM
As for Lady Stoneheart, I don't think we will see that on the show.

Well, good thing no one asked you.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 15, 2015, 03:58:46 PM
It's probably from reading too many people flipping out about no LSH and refusing to let it go, but I really hope that particular ship has sailed.
The wights fulfill the zombie factor just fine, and I don't want that resurrection to cheapen the big resurrection (being one who thinks there is no way Jon Snow stays dead).
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 15, 2015, 04:57:36 PM
It's probably from reading too many people flipping out about no LSH and refusing to let it go, but I really hope that particular ship has sailed.
The wights fulfill the zombie factor just fine, and I don't want that resurrection to cheapen the big resurrection (being one who thinks there is no way Jon Snow stays dead).
This
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Post by: Scuzz on July 15, 2015, 06:14:33 PM
It's probably from reading too many people flipping out about no LSH and refusing to let it go, but I really hope that particular ship has sailed.
The wights fulfill the zombie factor just fine, and I don't want that resurrection to cheapen the big resurrection (being one who thinks there is no way Jon Snow stays dead).

Yea this.....

Of course when the new book comes out he may kill off Danny.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 15, 2015, 06:54:37 PM
Yea this.....

Of course when the new book comes out he may kill off Danny.

When???

Don't you mean IF?

You've taught me well, my King. 
Sure, I hope another book gets published, but I've decided to accept it may never happen, and the show will end the story for us.
If it turns out otherwise, awesome.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 15, 2015, 08:12:04 PM
I just hope the next book is better than the last two.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 15, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
Yeah.  There were parts of both books I really liked, but parts which were a struggle for me to get through.
Were it not for wanting to know what was happening with Arya's story, I may have just said fuck it.

I have heard there's an order you can read them in which makes them much better, and I'll probably eventually get around to trying it out, but it isn't high on my priority list.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 16, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
When???

Don't you mean IF?

You've taught me well, my King. 
Sure, I hope another book gets published, but I've decided to accept it may never happen, and the show will end the story for us.
If it turns out otherwise, awesome.

I was going to write "if" and then decided to go with "when". I am an optimist I guess.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 20, 2015, 09:37:34 PM
Ahahahahahahahaha...

There is actually something called Kit Harrington Hair Watch going on.
He had said, at one point, he really wanted to cut his hair, but he couldn't because of GoT.
I guess some people decided to start trying to find any picture of him they could, to see if he'd cut his hair,
As a means of determining the fate of Jon Snow.
Apparently, this has been going on for a while.

I'm not into twitter, but apparently #kitharringtonhairwatch is a thing.



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Post by: Scuzz on July 22, 2015, 06:30:06 PM
So Kit Harrington is now in Scotland where they are starting shooting for the next season. He was seen getting off a plane with the actor who plays the faceless assassin.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 22, 2015, 07:50:40 PM
So Kit Harrington is now in Scotland where they are starting shooting for the next season. He was seen getting off a plane with the actor who plays the faceless assassin.

Don't you mean Northern Ireland?

Yeah, I saw the unfortunate picture of him with his hair in a bun.  facepalm
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Post by: Scuzz on July 23, 2015, 10:58:35 AM
Don't you mean Northern Ireland?

Yeah, I saw the unfortunate picture of him with his hair in a bun.  facepalm

my bad, I was to lazy to go back and check...so sue me.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 23, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
my bad, I was to lazy to go back and check...so sue me.

You'll be hearing from my lawyer.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 30, 2015, 08:43:49 PM
towl towl towl

It's official, Game of Thrones, as opposed to running for just 7 season, will now go for at least 8!!!

towl towl towl

http://watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-will-go-at-least-eight-seasons-says-hbo/#more-41324
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Post by: kburjr on July 30, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
facepalm
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 30, 2015, 08:55:54 PM
facepalm

chic1

Unless you really meant wiggle
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Post by: kburjr on July 30, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
I'm waiting for the announcement for Game of Thrones: The Next Generation
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 30, 2015, 09:10:33 PM
I'm waiting for the announcement for Game of Thrones: The Next Generation

Well, given they have a little of the 5th book left to adapt, plus 2 more books after that (both of which are expected to be 1000+ pages), it's good, imo, there will be more time to adapt them.  With as much story as there is left to be told, I was wondering how they'd get it all in in 7 seasons.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 30, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
I'd like a prequel mini-series at most. Maybe 10 episodes detailing Robert's Rebellion.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 30, 2015, 09:36:16 PM
I'd love a lil something on Robert's Rebellion, too.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 31, 2015, 10:42:14 AM
towl towl towl

It's official, Game of Thrones, as opposed to running for just 7 season, will now go for at least 8!!!

towl towl towl

http://watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-will-go-at-least-eight-seasons-says-hbo/#more-41324

So does this mean GRRM will finish the books before the HBO series ends?
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Post by: tnzazz on July 31, 2015, 11:05:21 AM
So does this mean GRRM will finish the books before the HBO series ends?

Hell no. That dude might not finish for another 10 years. I believe he does have it mapped out.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 31, 2015, 11:21:36 AM
Hell no. That dude might not finish for another 10 years. I believe he does have it mapped out.

I don't think he has any idea WTF he is doing, except for maybe who lives and dies. He doesn't use an outline.

And my question was pure sarcasm and snark. The dude will die before he gets the last book out.
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Post by: wild-turkey on July 31, 2015, 12:29:09 PM
I don't think he has any idea WTF he is doing, except for maybe who lives and dies. He doesn't use an outline.

And my question was pure sarcasm and snark. The dude will die before he gets the last book out.
I think he has lost interest and is enjoying the HBO work and publicity.  The guy lived in obscurity for the majority of his life and is more than likely just enjoying the fun.  Good for him I just wish he would bring in a partner writer and just oversee the rest of the story and work with someone to flesh out a prequel.  He could structure a deal with HBO and with his publisher to open the world up and sit back and receive royalties and have a very nice life.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 31, 2015, 12:51:12 PM
GRRM was a shark victim in Sharknado 3.

He has time for that shit.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 31, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
So does this mean GRRM will finish the books before the HBO series ends?

Hahahaha...
But maybe it means we'll at least get TWOW before the HBO series ends.

Not that it means a whole hell of a lot, but he did cancel a number of engagements (not all of them, but some) citing how he needed to focus on writing.
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Post by: kburjr on July 31, 2015, 03:15:07 PM
If Hemingway had wrote Game of Thrones it would be 140 pages at the most 
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 01, 2015, 01:52:00 PM
Y'all ready for this?!?

Ian McShane!!! blitz1
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on August 01, 2015, 02:46:27 PM
Y'all ready for this?!?

Ian McShane!!! blitz1

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c2/69/19/c26919e3cf19e3e8a87fe2907d811228.jpg)

GRRM disagrees.
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Post by: Red Hessian on August 02, 2015, 10:23:12 AM
Frankly, I'd be cool if he finds some sort of portal and stumbles upon Westeros accidentally when taking a piss out back in Deadwood.

Give me more Swearengen. I think we all feel cheated that he was pulled out from under us way too soon.
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Post by: Red Hessian on August 02, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
Swearengen is already cutthroat enough to live in GoT, and his language could have made the Hound blush.
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Post by: wild-turkey on August 02, 2015, 02:52:16 PM
Frankly, I'd be cool if he finds some sort of portal and stumbles upon Westeros accidentally when taking a piss out back in Deadwood.

Give me more Swearengen. I think we all feel cheated that he was pulled out from under us way too soon.
Word
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 02, 2015, 03:19:33 PM
Now, if only we could get a Westerosi Mr. Wu.  grin1

(Essosi would be fine, too, but I like the sound of "Westerosi Wu" better.)

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Post by: Scuzz on August 03, 2015, 12:48:59 PM
Any idea who McShane will play? Nobody seems to have any clue.
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 03, 2015, 01:05:06 PM
Nope.  Of course, there's all sorts of speculation based on the leaked casting calls...
Tarly, an aged-up Euron, one of the outlaws...
But it's just speculation.
There's nothing to say it's even one of the characters from the casting call.

I kind of like the idea of him playing Archmaester Marwyn, though.
The truth is, I don't really care.  I'm just so psyched he's been cast.
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 03, 2015, 09:54:47 PM
As though Ian McShane wasn't enough,  GoT just cast...

(I hope you're sitting down)

Max von Sydow!!!

He'll be playing a recast Bloodraven.

No, I won't be posting about all the castings, but I had to about McShane, and this is even more epic.
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Post by: Red Hessian on August 04, 2015, 11:15:08 AM
Max Von Sydow?!
They better kill him off during the next season before he croaks on his own.
Hey death-poolers, there's an under the radar name for you.
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Post by: Scuzz on August 04, 2015, 11:16:03 AM
Wow, Max Von Sydow is older than I am.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on August 10, 2015, 05:46:28 PM
Young Ned Stark cast for season 6

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/08/10/game-of-thrones-young-ned-stark-cast-for-season-6?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=1&utm_campaign=Blogroll
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Post by: Scuzz on August 10, 2015, 06:42:21 PM
Okay, kinda makes you wonder where they are going now.

I hope Peter Jackson doesn't take over the direction of this.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on August 11, 2015, 08:43:38 AM
Wow, Max Von Sydow is older than I am.
That's funny.
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 11, 2015, 11:53:37 AM
Young Ned Stark cast for season 6

http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/08/10/game-of-thrones-young-ned-stark-cast-for-season-6?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=1&utm_campaign=Blogroll

Thank you for posting that.
After saying I wouldn't post every casting announcement, I was hoping someone else would mention that one.

The question is, given the other casting calls, are we going to see Young Ned, Benjen and Robert (which is what many seem to think), or maybe Young Ned, Benjen, and Hodor, which is the direction I'm leaning.
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 12, 2015, 04:43:45 PM
I've been chomping at the bit all day for confirmation on this, and it finally arrived.

dbana dbana dbana dbana

Tower of Joy Confirmed!!!!!!

dbana dbana dbana dbana
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 12, 2015, 04:49:52 PM
oops1

In my excitement, I forgot to post the link:

http://watchersonthewall.com/the-tower-of-joy-confirmed-and-more-new-details-about-a-key-role-involved/
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 21, 2015, 02:09:29 PM
Do Not Watch This if You Don't Want To Know...Kinda Major Spoiler...

But given what Finn Jones (the guy who plays Loras) says at about the 15 minutes mark (if you don't want to watch the whole interview, start at about 14:50-ish), it sounds like we'll be seeing a certain character, this season.  blitz1

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Post by: Cali Cat on August 21, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
Bump ('cause I can't believe at least Kipp or Scuzz didn't have something to say about either the ToJ, or the spoiler in the interview I posted earlier).
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Post by: Scuzz on August 21, 2015, 06:36:52 PM
So the Hound will make a return.......I can't remember from the books, don't we assume he has or is dying in like book 3?
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 21, 2015, 06:42:09 PM
So the Hound will make a return.......I can't remember from the books, don't we assume he has or is dying in like book 3?

I'm not sure which book it is, but yeah, the last we see of him he's dying or dead.
There's the mysterious "gravedigger" with Septon Meribald who lots of people think is the Hound (can't remember which book that is, either), but that's just fan-theory.
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 23, 2015, 01:32:07 PM

This picture is from the political protests happening in Lebanon.



(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNHCf-3WgAA7Dz-.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 23, 2015, 05:59:55 PM
btw - Could obviously be photoshopped, but still, it's funny.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 01, 2015, 05:31:29 PM
"I am the storm, my Lord."

In case anyone is interested, Euron has been cast.

http://watchersonthewall.com/
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Post by: Scuzz on September 04, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
SPOILER ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

GRRM has been talking and stated a certain character still lives in the book world. Don't read below if you don't want to know.....












http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/news/a37498/george-rr-martin-stannis-baratheon-alive/?mag=esq&click=c1_article_recipes_yr_1
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 04, 2015, 12:25:06 PM
Have you read any of the sample chapters from The Winds of Winter, Scuzz?
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Post by: Scuzz on September 04, 2015, 12:27:12 PM
Have you read any of the sample chapters from The Winds of Winter, Scuzz?

No, I will wait until they are all out. Shit by the time the new one comes out i will have to re-read the old ones to remember who everyone is.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 04, 2015, 12:33:13 PM
No, I will wait until they are all out. Shit by the time the new one comes out i will have to re-read the old ones to remember who everyone is.

Ah, ok, then I won't say anything about them.
Yeah, I'm getting so confused between certain things in the show versus certain things in the books (it probably doesn't help I burned through the books when I read them), I'll have to do a re-read at some point.  I'm thinking of trying the last two according to an order I've heard a lot of people talk about...from something called Boiled Leather.  I'm hoping it will make some of the stuff I found really hard to get through (like most of the Iron Islands stuff) more enjoyable. 
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Post by: Scuzz on September 04, 2015, 01:20:07 PM
Yea, I remember reading somewhere about changing the way you read the last two books. Something about how they would make more sense. My problem was staying awake through most of the 4th book.

I have heard about something in the chapters you mention but I seem to have forgotten whatever it was. I don't have a problem if you want to remind/enlighten me.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 04, 2015, 01:35:44 PM
There's just an implication in one of the sample chapters which ties in to the link you posted.  The show went into the next book with that story-line.

Interestingly, it looks like they're going back into books 4 and 5 with at least one of the story-lines this upcoming season.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 10, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Oh. Holy. Shit.

Do not, I repeat, do not click on this and read (the holy shit part is toward the bottom of the article) unless you're sure you want a GINORMOUS spoiler.

I couldn't help but read it, and as excited as I am, part of me wishes I didn't know.

So, again, read at your own risk.

http://watchersonthewall.com/game-of-thrones-gets-theatrical-plus-massive-spoilers-for-season-six/#comments
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Post by: Scuzz on September 10, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
Well, It had to be didn't it.
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 10, 2015, 05:15:43 PM
Yeah, but it isn't just the one thing...it's all those elements put together.

The North Remembers!!!
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 16, 2015, 03:35:20 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,

We have our (imo, appropriately intimidating looking) Randyll Tarly:

James Faulkner

(http://www.tvchoicemagazine.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/interview_image/intex/james_faulkner.png)

http://watchersonthewall.com/meet-the-tarlys-game-of-thrones-adds-three-more-actors-to-season-6/
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Post by: Cali Cat on September 25, 2015, 03:42:12 PM
So, um, yeah...not like we didn't already know, but a certain someone's return has been 110% confirmed with an on-set picture.

And here's the best part...

DO NOT CONTINUE READING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED...



...



...


...





















He's wearing Stark-gear!!!

http://watchersonthewall.com/huge-spoilers-come-with-the-newest-photos-out-of-northern-ireland/
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Post by: UTKipp1 on September 25, 2015, 06:51:38 PM
So, um, yeah...not like we didn't already know, but a certain someone's return has been 110% confirmed with an on-set picture.

And here's the best part...

DO NOT CONTINUE READING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED...



...



...


...





















He's wearing Stark-gear!!!

http://watchersonthewall.com/huge-spoilers-come-with-the-newest-photos-out-of-northern-ireland/
Awesome sauce
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Post by: Scuzz on September 28, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
I would think it is safe to say the show is about to spoiler the books now.    :)
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Post by: wild-turkey on October 01, 2015, 08:43:45 AM
GOT Movie:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/73237 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/73237)

George R.R. Martin allegedly confirmed at HBO’s Emmy party that showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss are planning a big-screen “Game of Thrones” movie.

“There will be a movie but I will not be involved,” Martin allegedly proclaimed. “I have too much to do. That is something HBO and the DB and David are dealing with. I have two more books to finish and I still have so much to do. The pressure is on. I am such a slow writer and the fans get upset that I don’t write faster.”

Did Martin actually say this?

"No one is working on any movie just now," Martin typed Tuesday on his Not A Blog blog.

That "just now" part may prove important. Martin has said before that HBO is contemplating a "Thrones" movie.

The bigger news, if true, is the movie may NOT be a sequel depicting the Khaleesi’s fearsome dragons bringing fiery death to Tommen and Cercei Baratheon.

The movie may be a prequel, an unnamed source supposedly involved in the production supposedly told Britain's Daily Star Sunday tabloid.

"With the 'Game Of Thrones' universe, there is much rich material and no constraints on when that story will take place,” noted the source. “They are looking at dipping back in time during certain periods of the series, which could be examined as a one off plot.

"That means that some of the big characters who fans have seen die on screen could be resurrected such as Robb Stark, Catelyn Stark, Oberyn Martell The Red Viper and Ned Stark."

Leaving aside “Better Call Saul,” “Casino Royale” and big chunks of “The Godfather Part II,” it’s hard to think of successful prequels, but I must say I’m hugely excited at the propect of seeing Charles Dance and Sean Bean reprising such great roles on the big screen.
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Post by: Scuzz on October 01, 2015, 10:26:53 AM
They might be able to make a movie based on some of his other writings in the same world I guess, but no part of GoT lends itself to a 2-3 hour movie. Although maybe Peter Jackson could direct it and turn it into a 9-12 hour marathon of crap.
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Post by: wild-turkey on October 01, 2015, 12:08:28 PM
They might be able to make a movie based on some of his other writings in the same world I guess, but no part of GoT lends itself to a 2-3 hour movie. Although maybe Peter Jackson could direct it and turn it into a 9-12 hour marathon of crap.
Straight talk.
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 01, 2015, 01:02:51 PM
Apparently, that rumor was based on false quotes from Martin's website.
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Post by: wild-turkey on October 01, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Apparently, that rumor was based on false quotes from Martin's website.
Every party has a pooper and you are it.
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 01, 2015, 02:29:52 PM
...and this is what I get for trying to give you da troof, no matter how difficult da troof may be???

Damn, you're just like my niece.
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 01, 2015, 03:06:41 PM
Since most of you guys drool over one or more of the female cast,
If this guy is indeed playing who many think he is, well, I'll be drooling over him.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjEzMzgzNDEzOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzEyMDMyNA@@._V1_UY317_CR20,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)
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Post by: wild-turkey on October 01, 2015, 03:13:10 PM
...and this is what I get for trying to give you da troof, no matter how difficult da troof may be???

Damn, you're just like my niece.
So I think you're a bitch and screw around with seedy guys also?




Joking but it probably deserves a ban anyway.
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 01, 2015, 03:32:10 PM
So I think you're a bitch and screw around with seedy guys also?




Joking but it probably deserves a ban anyway.

I don't know what she thinks of the guys I screw around with, but she definitely thinks I'm a bitch...
In addition to "mean," "hateful," and all sorts of other lovely things.

Poor, poor, entitled, histrionic lil snit.


I won't ban you...yet, but just know...

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/3836473/i-m-watching-you-o.gif)
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Post by: wild-turkey on October 01, 2015, 03:43:48 PM
Noted
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Post by: Cali Cat on October 17, 2015, 01:00:45 PM
LOL!!!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRho8h_UsAERWFz.jpg:large)
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Post by: Cali Cat on November 05, 2015, 12:41:48 PM
I'll just leave this here...

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/2fc47ce4a9187114a35ec4755ba61726/tumblr_nkuusshPwB1qhmrtlo1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on November 23, 2015, 12:16:58 PM
First Season 6 Teaser Poster from HBO...

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Post by: Cali Cat on December 03, 2015, 03:47:09 PM
First teaser-trailer for Season 6.  There's no new footage, but the voiceover...wow, Max von Sydow FTW!!!

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Post by: Scuzz on December 03, 2015, 04:14:43 PM
Why couldn't that bassurd GRRM just got the damn next book out by now?
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Post by: Cali Cat on December 03, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
That would have been nice, but given I've given up all hopes of it coming out before season 6 starts, I'm really enjoying not knowing what's going to happen.
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Post by: Paul4Cats on December 03, 2015, 05:34:47 PM
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Post by: kburjr on December 08, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
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Post by: Misterfamous on December 08, 2015, 11:28:33 PM
Why couldn't that bassurd GRRM just got the damn next book out by now?
He's teasing you with his obese, gouty diabetes death, isn't he ?  I saw an interview with him a while back where he was wheezing just talking to the reporter.
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Post by: Cali Cat on December 09, 2015, 11:57:40 AM
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 02, 2016, 01:21:54 PM
Well, not that there was much doubt, but it's been confirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt Martin will not be releasing the next book before season 6 begins.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 04, 2016, 10:53:07 AM
Well, not that there was much doubt, but it's been confirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt Martin will not be releasing the next book before season 6 begins.

He will never finish this series. Ever. The story I saw said he was still working with HBO to see that they follow the direction of the book though. 
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 04, 2016, 11:58:02 AM
He will never finish this series. Ever. The story I saw said he was still working with HBO to see that they follow the direction of the book though. 

The good news is at least we'll know how it ends because of the show.
Yeah, everything I've seen points to him being very available to the guys who run the show.
I remember reading something where they said the paths to get to the end may be different in some regards, but the end will be the same.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 04, 2016, 12:17:55 PM
The good news is at least we'll know how it ends because of the show.
Yeah, everything I've seen points to him being very available to the guys who run the show.
I remember reading something where they said the paths to get to the end may be different in some regards, but the end will be the same.

That how I understood the story I read.
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Post by: Red Hessian on January 06, 2016, 10:30:11 AM
He will never finish this series. Ever. The story I saw said he was still working with HBO to see that they follow the direction of the book though. 
you could totally be right.
or there could be a deus ex machina, and that would just suck balls.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 06, 2016, 10:32:49 AM
Giant tidal wave caused by global cooling (well, Winter is coming) wipes out everyone.

Sorry to spoiler everyone.
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Post by: Red Hessian on January 06, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
oh nos! the wall will melt and flood westeros.

~fin~
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Post by: Red Hessian on January 06, 2016, 10:41:50 AM
you gotta love that Martin will not commit to any of the maps outside of Westeros, even the published ones. He says they are done the old fashioned way, and accurate the way that maps were "accurate" in the 15th century by cartographers with limited resources. Close sorta kinda maybe not really. The whole Jade Sea and Asshai thing are still a mystery.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 06, 2016, 11:06:42 AM
you gotta love that Martin will not commit to any of the maps outside of Westeros, even the published ones. He says they are done the old fashioned way, and accurate the way that maps were "accurate" in the 15th century by cartographers with limited resources. Close sorta kinda maybe not really. The whole Jade Sea and Asshai thing are still a mystery.

He just hasn't decided what belongs there. He hasn't had enough time to come up with that yet.
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Post by: Red Hessian on January 06, 2016, 11:08:03 AM
He just hasn't decided what belongs there. He hasn't had enough time to come up with that yet.
lol. no, i guess he hasn't.

that would probably be my first thing. I love maps. I'd be way better at making a cool landscape than writing those novels.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 06, 2016, 01:19:55 PM
lol. no, i guess he hasn't.

that would probably be my first thing. I love maps. I'd be way better at making a cool landscape than writing those novels.

I think it was in the last year or two he spent a lot of time on the map (I think for that World of Ice and Fire book, which I refuse to purchase because of the "co-authors," but I've seen bits of it, and while some of the artwork is really nice, the writing is abysmal...)getting more specific with just about everything other than The Jade Sea and Asshai.  The map of Essos is pretty detailed.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 06, 2016, 01:27:13 PM
btw - There are a lot of people who think the Wall will come down.
Many of those think it's the horn found at the Fist (the one Sam has) that will do it, because they believe it is the horn of Joruman.
Mance, for example, believes the Horn of Joramun will bring down the wall.  However,

***book spoiler***

there's the story of Joruamn blowing the Horn of Winter and waking giants from the earth.  I think that could mean something different.
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Post by: Red Hessian on January 07, 2016, 12:36:37 AM
I think it was in the last year or two he spent a lot of time on the map (I think for that World of Ice and Fire book, which I refuse to purchase because of the "co-authors," but I've seen bits of it, and while some of the artwork is really nice, the writing is abysmal...)getting more specific with just about everything other than The Jade Sea and Asshai.  The map of Essos is pretty detailed.
the world of fire and Ice maps are the ones I was referring to. He says they're fairly accurate and approves of them, but still nothing is set in stone.

It puts a whole new spin as to where the Jade Sea is, and that changes everything from the Red Waste onward. Plus it has a new continent Ulthos on it, which he is reserving for later just in case.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 07, 2016, 10:49:11 AM
btw - There are a lot of people who think the Wall will come down.
Many of those think it's the horn found at the Fist (the one Sam has) that will do it, because they believe it is the horn of Joruman.
Mance, for example, believes the Horn of Joramun will bring down the wall.  However,

***book spoiler***

there's the story of Joruamn blowing the Horn of Winter and waking giants from the earth.  I think that could mean something different.

I think someone has a fixation on the lore of this show, and it probably isn't to healthy. Especially when GRRM never finishes the books.
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Post by: Red Hessian on January 07, 2016, 11:07:02 AM
this all has to come down to Melisandre not being able to burn Daenys, right? well, at least for one of the plot lines
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Post by: Scuzz on January 07, 2016, 12:09:25 PM
this all has to come down to Melisandre not being able to burn Daenys, right? well, at least for one of the plot lines

You could say it might come down to the opposite of that. Danny burning Melisandre.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 07, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
the world of fire and Ice maps are the ones I was referring to. He says they're fairly accurate and approves of them, but still nothing is set in stone.

It puts a whole new spin as to where the Jade Sea is, and that changes everything from the Red Waste onward. Plus it has a new continent Ulthos on it, which he is reserving for later just in case.

That's another problem I have with TWOIAF.
It was touted as a kind of compendium for background knowledge, but after it was released there was the whole...well, it's written by unreliable narrators, so can't be considered cannon.

I think someone has a fixation on the lore of this show, and it probably isn't to healthy. Especially when GRRM never finishes the books.

There are some things about which I'm very curious (and other things about which I couldn't really care less, although they may end up being important), and the horn of Joruman (in addition to the horn Euron found) is one of the biggest ones.  GRRM may never finish the books, but we'll know, at least in terms of the big beats, how it ends.  I'm hoping this season will give us more info. on at least one of the horns.
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 08, 2016, 12:39:05 PM
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on January 08, 2016, 01:02:17 PM
I heard Kylo Ren kills Jon Snow.
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Post by: Scuzz on January 08, 2016, 01:03:06 PM
I heard Kylo Ren kills Jon Snow.

spoiler that shit dude...
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 08, 2016, 01:07:17 PM
I heard Kylo Ren kills Jon Snow.

I'm not a twitter person, although I do end up reading some stuff.
There's this twitter account called Emo Kylo Ren...it's pretty damn funny.

spoiler that shit dude...

haha1
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Post by: Cali Cat on January 22, 2016, 01:54:26 PM
http://watchersonthewall.com/new-promos-for-game-of-thrones-season-6-featuring-houses-stark-lannister-and-targaryen/
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Post by: Cali Cat on February 11, 2016, 02:56:56 PM
Pictures from season 6!!!!  dbana dbana dbana

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/exclusive-pictures-season-6
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Post by: Misterfamous on February 11, 2016, 03:03:04 PM
Pictures from season 6!!!!  dbana dbana dbana

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/exclusive-pictures-season-6

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Brewmeister Smith has new pupil to test his mind-control beer upon
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Post by: Red Hessian on February 11, 2016, 03:03:57 PM
Ooooh yeah. I forgot Arya was blind now.

Hoping to see a shot of the Mountain without his helm, but I knew that was a reach
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Post by: Cali Cat on February 11, 2016, 03:08:18 PM
Ooooh yeah. I forgot Arya was blind now.

Hoping to see a shot of the Mountain without his helm, but I knew that was a reach

Some people were hoping for a glimpse of Euron.
I figure they'll make us wait.
I'm glad to see Balon, and I swear, if Arya starts warging, I'm going to have to buy a new couch,
'Cause I will shit!!!
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Post by: Cali Cat on March 07, 2016, 02:22:42 PM
This cracked me the hell up (yeah, I'm easily amused, but we all know that)!




Dammit...you can't see the full title...

Tyrion Slaps Joffrey for 10 minutes to Achilles Last Stand
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Post by: kburjr on March 07, 2016, 02:24:48 PM
This cracked me the hell up (yeah, I'm easily amused, but we all know that)!



Did you watch all of it?
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Post by: Cali Cat on March 07, 2016, 02:35:20 PM
Did you watch all of it?

Most of it...it made me realize it's been quite a while since I listened to Physical Graffiti.


I'm not sure if anyone here will even get this, but if anyone does, I hope they find it as funny as I did.

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Post by: kburjr on March 07, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
This cracked me the hell up (yeah, I'm easily amused, but we all know that)!




Dammit...you can't see the full title...

Tyrion Slaps Joffrey for 10 minutes to Achilles Last Stand

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Post by: Cali Cat on March 08, 2016, 02:44:42 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen...

We have a trailer... dbana dbana dbana

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Post by: Scuzz on March 08, 2016, 05:08:02 PM
I read somewhere that HBO is not releasing the shows early to the reviewers this season. I guess they no longer think it is necessary and also since they have passed the book pretty much anything could be a spoiler.

Should be a fun season.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on March 08, 2016, 05:10:01 PM
Hodor
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Post by: Cali Cat on March 08, 2016, 05:11:57 PM
Yeah, no screeners for critics.  I think it probably has more to do with the first 4 episodes getting leaked, last year.  Especially with where they left off last season, and what book-readers know is almost certain to happen, I don't think they were willing to take a chance at episodes getting leaked, again...

And, yeah, it's not like not giving out screeners is going to negatively impact the show, at this point.
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Post by: Misterfamous on March 28, 2016, 11:39:02 AM
Preview released.  Enjoy:

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Post by: Cali Cat on March 28, 2016, 04:23:40 PM
It's good to see someone else is on top of this stuff, as I've been off the computer for close to a couple of weeks.
I'll be back around soon...since, from the looks of things, even F&L misses me...
And while I'm not sure how I feel about that,
If he's noticing my absence, some of you must be pining.  ;)
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Post by: Scuzz on March 28, 2016, 05:19:29 PM
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Post by: Misterfamous on March 28, 2016, 07:10:14 PM
It's good to see someone else is on top of this stuff, as I've been off the computer for close to a couple of weeks.
I'll be back around soon...since, from the looks of things, even F&L misses me...
And while I'm not sure how I feel about that,
If he's noticing my absence, some of you must be pining.  ;)
Thanks.  F&L was suggesting you were having feminine troubles, but we explained to him that he was wrong and it was probably due to his lack of knowledge about (real) women.
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Post by: Red Hessian on March 29, 2016, 12:25:39 AM
Preview released.  Enjoy:


so much action and dramatic snippets going on, and yet it really fed us nothing

Bastards.
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Post by: Misterfamous on March 30, 2016, 12:06:44 PM
so much action and dramatic snippets going on, and yet it really fed us nothing

Bastards.
What do you expect ?  Anyway, we know Jon Snow will be resurrected, Dany's going to be held prisoner / raped by the New Khalasar before being rescued (again), Jaime and Brienne "Big Bitch" will meet up for the Siege at Riverrun, Ian McShane gonna resurrect The Hound and all the remaining Starks will be wearing lots of white contact lenses to "warg" around a lot...
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Post by: Red Hessian on March 30, 2016, 01:59:29 PM
I didn't expect any spoilers, that's for sure. I just kinda wanted, I dunno, something. Just jonesin' I guess
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Post by: Cali Cat on March 31, 2016, 02:21:51 PM
The shot of the Night's King in front of those flames are quite intriguing,
And the NK grabbing Bran's arm, well...what1

That kinda flipped me out.
It almost has to be a vision, which means they can see each other through the vision (it isn't just one-way),
And that's crazy enough, but grabbing his arm???
W.T.F!!!
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 08, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
New, brief clip from Season 6...
It's an extension of the scene with Davos we saw at the end of the trailer.

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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on April 08, 2016, 01:38:08 PM
Who's winning?
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 08, 2016, 01:41:25 PM
The side who has Ghost.
He is about to fuck some people up!!!  dbana
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on April 08, 2016, 02:02:07 PM
I can't wait
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on April 08, 2016, 02:03:06 PM
The Hound looks like he was born and raised south of the river
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on April 08, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Cali, have you seen A&E's "60 days in"?  Jeffersonville, IN
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on April 08, 2016, 02:04:50 PM
River people
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Post by: kburjr on April 08, 2016, 02:07:40 PM
  south of the river

Every time you post "south of the river" I get Sultans of Swing stuck in my head.  Thank you
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 08, 2016, 02:22:26 PM
I can't wait

Just over 2 weeks!!!

The Hound looks like he was born and raised south of the river

Nah...the Clegane's are from somewhere around Floyd's Knobs.

Cali, have you seen A&E's "60 days in"?  Jeffersonville, IN

I didn't even know that existed.
Why the fuck would anyone make an hour long program about...
Jeffersonville???
Eek.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on April 08, 2016, 02:39:30 PM
No, people go undercover in the county jail.  Scary shit
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 08, 2016, 02:44:10 PM
No, people go undercover in the county jail.  Scary shit

I bet.
The law-abiding citizens of Jeffersonville are scary enough.
I can only imagine the criminal element must be downright terrifying.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on April 08, 2016, 02:49:14 PM
I love the show
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 11, 2016, 11:20:07 AM
Another new trailer!!!

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Post by: Scuzz on April 11, 2016, 11:34:09 AM
I really do hate the modern MTV style of 2-3 second snippets being pieced together. My brain has never worked that fast.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on April 11, 2016, 12:03:17 PM
I really do hate the modern MTV style

I don't think MTV is too modern anymore, old man.  :)
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on April 11, 2016, 12:04:33 PM
I really do hate the modern MTV style of 2-3 second snippets being pieced together. My brain has never worked that fast.

I hate the talkies, picture shows were never meant to have sound.
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Post by: kburjr on April 11, 2016, 12:10:48 PM
I hate the talkies, picture shows were never meant to have sound.

Porn doesn't need sound, does it?
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Post by: Scuzz on April 11, 2016, 12:58:59 PM
I hate the talkies, picture shows were never meant to have sound.

fuck you junior.....
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 11, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
I really do hate the modern MTV style of 2-3 second snippets being pieced together. My brain has never worked that fast.

You can always slow it down.
That's what I do, after watching it a couple of times to get overall impressions.
It's amazing all the stuff you catch when you watch it at 1/2 or 1/4 speed.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on April 11, 2016, 01:45:20 PM
I don't think MTV is too modern anymore, old man.  :)
Sure it is when you grew up scratching pictures on cave walls with charcoal.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 11, 2016, 04:00:13 PM
You can always slow it down.
That's what I do, after watching it a couple of times to get overall impressions.
It's amazing all the stuff you catch when you watch it at 1/2 or 1/4 speed.

I am always at 1/4 or 1/2 speed. i would need it slower than that.
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Post by: Misterfamous on April 11, 2016, 04:13:00 PM
I am always at 1/4 or 1/2 speed. i would need it slower than that.
If you cut two tennis balls and pull them on the bottom of the forward legs, you can speed up considerably.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 11, 2016, 04:39:06 PM
I am always at 1/4 or 1/2 speed. i would need it slower than that.

Take a quaalude.
I'm sure you still have a few left from what you stashed back in the 80's.
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Post by: kburjr on April 11, 2016, 04:45:11 PM
New Theme Song!!!!


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Post by: Cali Cat on April 11, 2016, 04:47:22 PM
No, sorry, the new theme song is called "Tits and Dragons."
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 17, 2016, 04:51:19 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/game-thrones-journalist-files-foia-request-president-obamas-232011270.html
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 17, 2016, 04:59:09 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/game-thrones-journalist-files-foia-request-president-obamas-232011270.html

On another site, someone posted a link to some reddit thing about that the other day.
It was funny enough, then, the fact there's an article about it on yahoo is even funnier.

btw - There have been some articles in the Wall Street Journal about the GoT fandom, of late.
My favorite site is featured in one of the articles.
It's kind of a trip the online presence has become so huge the WSJ did a series of articles about it.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on April 20, 2016, 02:42:19 PM
Maisie Williams is SO UGLY.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 20, 2016, 04:32:03 PM
Well, first of she isn't that old yet, or is she. Is she 20 yet?   


Anyway..some pictures do give her a weird shaped head...

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRE2H9S9DjIFhF-_K4z9s3aILBzI8GJRkAh8cSMMC8mB9lBwSQh)

While others make her look pretty nice....

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfipLcNeX0fdUfbC9x1P0clgK1gHVCwcT_6mklEz243iGPUHBq)
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 20, 2016, 04:45:53 PM
Are you all caught up on last season, Scuzz, and if so, are you ready for this Sunday?
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Post by: Scuzz on April 20, 2016, 05:03:12 PM
Are you all caught up on last season, Scuzz, and if so, are you ready for this Sunday?

I never watched last year but I kept up as to what they were doing. I don't have HBO and so this year I will live it vicariously thru you and others on this thread.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 20, 2016, 05:30:14 PM
I never watched last year but I kept up as to what they were doing. I don't have HBO and so this year I will live it vicariously thru you and others on this thread.

If you have comcast (it may be other providers, too, I don't know), they're doing a free week, right now, so you could watch season 5 if you wanted...and catch the first episode of season 6.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 20, 2016, 05:36:44 PM
If you have comcast (it may be other providers, too, I don't know), they're doing a free week, right now, so you could watch season 5 if you wanted...and catch the first episode of season 6.

We have Comcast but for some reason we don't get the free weekends stuff. Last time one happened I searched all over the place for it and never found it. This time I haven't even seen them promote it. I am not really very happy with Comcast for several reasons, but they have the best internet service for my wife's work, so for now I am stuck with them.

But I will go home and look for them. That is how I watched the first 4 seasons.
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Post by: Misterfamous on April 20, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
Well, first of she isn't that old yet, or is she. Is she 20 yet?   
Time ain't gonna heal that wound.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 20, 2016, 05:59:26 PM
We have Comcast but for some reason we don't get the free weekends stuff. Last time one happened I searched all over the place for it and never found it. This time I haven't even seen them promote it. I am not really very happy with Comcast for several reasons, but they have the best internet service for my wife's work, so for now I am stuck with them.

But I will go home and look for them. That is how I watched the first 4 seasons.
Torrent that shit.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 20, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
Torrent that chit.

My daughter does that. She has never owned a computer that wasn't horribly virused after a certain time.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 20, 2016, 06:18:16 PM
My daughter does that. She has never owned a computer that wasn't horribly virused after a certain time.
Then she's doing it wrong.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 20, 2016, 06:27:49 PM
Then she's doing it wrong.

I think she used to get them off one of the music sites that doesn't exist anymore. I know torrenting is much more "common" now but I have never done it. So, how does one torrent and where should one go?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 20, 2016, 07:48:24 PM
I think she used to get them off one of the music sites that doesn't exist anymore. I know torrenting is much more "common" now but I have never done it. So, how does one torrent and where should one go?
First you have to download a torrent program. I suggest BitTorrent. As for the actual torrents, I use Kick-Ass Torrents for mine. The website is kat.cr.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 20, 2016, 08:30:22 PM
We have Comcast but for some reason we don't get the free weekends stuff. Last time one happened I searched all over the place for it and never found it. This time I haven't even seen them promote it. I am not really very happy with Comcast for several reasons, but they have the best internet service for my wife's work, so for now I am stuck with them.

But I will go home and look for them. That is how I watched the first 4 seasons.

The free preview thing is only on On Demand.  So, don't go straight to the channels, go through On Demand, and it should work.
I'm almost positive it's nationwide, unless they're blocking Dodgers fans, which, hey, could you really blame them if they were?
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on April 20, 2016, 09:22:34 PM
Well, first of she isn't that old yet, or is she. Is she 20 yet?   


Anyway..some pictures do give her a weird shaped head...

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRE2H9S9DjIFhF-_K4z9s3aILBzI8GJRkAh8cSMMC8mB9lBwSQh)

While others make her look pretty nice....

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfipLcNeX0fdUfbC9x1P0clgK1gHVCwcT_6mklEz243iGPUHBq)

Found this, the premise is, she is cute if you stretch her head.
-
(http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/ap0zD7E_700b.jpg)
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Post by: Scuzz on April 21, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
The free preview thing is only on On Demand.  So, don't go straight to the channels, go through On Demand, and it should work.
I'm almost positive it's nationwide, unless they're blocking Dodgers fans, which, hey, could you really blame them if they were?

Okay, I have never looked there. I went thru every freakin number on the remote last night looking and found nothing, but never checked On Demand. Every other TV service simply removes the blocking on HBO on free weekends.

That was a nice game last night, wasn't it?    :)
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Post by: Red Hessian on April 21, 2016, 06:12:59 PM
My daughter does that. She has never owned a computer that wasn't horribly virused after a certain time.
wasn't just her computer
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Post by: Scuzz on April 21, 2016, 06:58:03 PM
wasn't just her computer


:)

funny but cruel
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Post by: Scuzz on April 22, 2016, 10:29:18 AM
So I saw episode 1 of season 5 last night.

Gawd I couldn't care less about Danny and the dragons.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 25, 2016, 03:19:42 PM
You should get HBO Now. It's $15 a month and you don't have to have a normal subscription or anything. Plus, you get a free 30 day trial to start out with.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 25, 2016, 03:20:23 PM
Oh and, how about that ending last night? I was totally unprepared for that.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 25, 2016, 03:50:19 PM
You should get HBO Now. It's $15 a month and you don't have to have a normal subscription or anything. Plus, you get a free 30 day trial to start out with.

I'd meant to mention that to him, but I forgot.
I think it goes month-by-month, right?

Oh and, how about that ending last night? I was totally unprepared for that.

It's hinted at in the books, but I certainly hadn't thought abut it in a while, and even if I had, reading about something like that and seeing something like that are two totally different things.

Good stuff.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on April 25, 2016, 03:52:45 PM
Oh and, how about that ending last night? I was totally unprepared for that.

Me too, awesome.  Although I'll never look at Melisandre's perfect bewbs in quite the same way...
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on April 25, 2016, 03:54:54 PM
Gawd I couldn't care less about Danny and the dragons.

(http://i.redsnapperverytasty.com/graphics/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/daenerys-ermahgerd-wur-mah-durguns1.jpg)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on April 25, 2016, 04:34:51 PM
I have to admit there are characters on the show I really like, Tyrion is amazing. Even Cersei as much as you hate her she is a great character. But there are others I consider just a waste of time.

So I guess I saw ep 1-3 before the free shows went away. Looks like I may be torrenting the others.   :)
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Post by: Red Hessian on April 25, 2016, 05:21:19 PM
Peter Dinklage is a very good actor. Far and away my (and most people's) favorite. Tyrion wasn't as popular until the 2nd or 3rd season, I think, but I always thought he was the most interesting. Crafty lil bastard.

 the first thing I saw him in was The Station Agent. Slow movie, but you come to feel his plight
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 25, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Peter Dinklage is a very good actor. Far and away my (and most people's) favorite. Tyrion wasn't as popular until the 2nd or 3rd season, I think, but I always thought he was the most interesting. Crafty lil bastard.

 the first thing I saw him in was The Station Agent. Slow movie, but you come to feel his plight

I love that film, red, and that's the first thing I ever saw him in, too.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on April 25, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
Peter Dinklage is a very good actor. Far and away my (and most people's) favorite. Tyrion wasn't as popular until the 2nd or 3rd season, I think, but I always thought he was the most interesting. Crafty lil bastard.

 the first thing I saw him in was The Station Agent. Slow movie, but you come to feel his plight
Station Agent was good, but almost a chick flick.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 25, 2016, 06:41:18 PM
Station Agent was good, but almost a chick flick.

by almost you mean it was okay for you to watch it?
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on April 25, 2016, 06:50:29 PM
by almost you mean it was okay for you to watch it?
Quite the opposite, senile one, it means it was almost NOT OK to watch.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 25, 2016, 06:51:49 PM
Quite the opposite, senile one, it means it was almost NOT OK to watch.
That is literally what he said.
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Post by: Scuzz on April 26, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
That is literally what he said.

yea.....Big Ben Butt Breath....
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Post by: Red Hessian on April 26, 2016, 11:51:57 AM
Station Agent was good, but almost a chick flick.
id agree with this

Still, his acting was noteworthy
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 26, 2016, 11:53:53 AM
So, did anyone catch the preview for next week's episode?  dbana
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 26, 2016, 11:57:31 AM
So, did anyone catch the preview for next week's episode?  dbana
Yep.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 26, 2016, 12:10:25 PM
Yep.

Do Not Read Beyond This Point if You Aren't Caught Up on Episodes!!!

I can't wait to see Brienne telling Sansa she saw Arya!!!
She'd thought, other than Jon, she was the only Stark left alive.
Last season she found out Bran and Rickon are still alive, and now she's going to find out Arya is, too.

Also, I'm beside myself wanting to see what happens when Tyrion goes to visit Rhaegal and Viserion.

I wonder if we'll finally get to see Balon this episode.
I want to watch the bad man fly!!!
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Post by: Red Hessian on April 26, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
Sansa is an enigma. I can't stand her, yet I root for her.

Not in the cool way you like Tony Soprano. Tony is a tool, but you like him. I just don't plain like Sansa. I also don't want to see her flayed

And how about the sword through the face down there in Dorn? Ouch.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on April 26, 2016, 12:22:27 PM
Sansa is an enigma. I can't stand her, yet I root for her.

Not in the cool way you like Tony Soprano. Tony is a tool, but you like him. I just don't plain like Sansa. I also don't want to see her flayed

And how about the sword through the face down there in Dorn? Ouch.
*spear
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Post by: Red Hessian on April 26, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
Yes. Spear tip. Right through the ol schnozz from the back of the head
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Post by: Red Hessian on April 26, 2016, 12:26:29 PM
Their sexiness grows on you
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 26, 2016, 12:26:30 PM
Sansa is an enigma. I can't stand her, yet I root for her.

Not in the cool way you like Tony Soprano. Tony is a tool, but you like him. I just don't plain like Sansa. I also don't want to see her flayed

And how about the sword through the face down there in Dorn? Ouch.

I used to really not like Sansa.
She reminded me of one of those super girly girls I wanted to smack when I was growing up.
She's been through so much shit, though, it good to think maybe, just maybe, some things will go more her way.
I think the show has done a much, much better job with her than Martin.
Hell, she's still endlessly dicking around the Vale in the books.
I read the Sansa sample chapter from The Winds of Winter.
Ugh...lemon cakes, and Sansa thinking about how cute Harry the Heir is.  *yawn*
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Post by: Red Hessian on April 26, 2016, 12:28:04 PM
I don't care for lemon cakes, either
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Post by: Misterfamous on April 26, 2016, 12:30:39 PM
So, did anyone catch the preview for next week's episode?  dbana
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 26, 2016, 12:36:28 PM
  • Bran has a bad dream
  • Jamie threatens to stab The Sparrow
  • Jon Snow resurrected by floppy booby Melisandre
  • Arya still looking miserable
  • Boltons making plans to go after Sansa.

Duh.  I forgot about that glimpse of Bran.
I wonder if he's seeing what happened to Jon.
I think, and have thought for quite a while, there's a possibility Bran and Bloodraven will somehow be involved in bringing Jon back.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on April 26, 2016, 03:36:53 PM
id agree with this

Still, his acting was noteworthy
He's at his best when he is portraying "Annoyed", which he was thru most of the Station Agent.
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Post by: Cali Cat on April 27, 2016, 03:43:43 PM
I'm not a twitter person, but if anyone has extra time on their hands and wants to laugh their ass off (at least I find them funny as hell), click on this and read it.

It's long, but like I said, funny as hell, at least to me.

http://watchersonthewall.com/red-wooah-crikey/
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 01, 2016, 09:12:42 PM
HE IS RISEN!
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 01, 2016, 10:14:01 PM
Called it !

Starks are on the rise...
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 01, 2016, 10:21:31 PM
Called it !

Starks are on the rise...
Called it, lol. You and everyone else.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 01, 2016, 10:23:08 PM
But yeah, I think he uses his death as and out of the Night's Watch and declares himself Jon Stark and tries to retake the North to defend against the Walkers.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 01, 2016, 10:27:09 PM
Even without that final scene, it was a hell of an episode. Top 5 all time for the show.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 01, 2016, 11:37:39 PM
Called it, lol. You and everyone else.
Meh.  I don't read the damn books.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 01, 2016, 11:53:02 PM
Meh.  I don't read the damn books.
Neither do most people who watch the show.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 01, 2016, 11:53:19 PM
Anyway, Jon is still dead in the books.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 02, 2016, 08:06:34 AM
Anyway, Jon is still dead in the books.
I wouldn't know. 

A comic shop called Big Pete's on the main drag where I live has been flogging the Game of Thrones comic in its main display, but I can't see how anyone can get into it either.  It's supposed to be between the books plot and the HBO adaptation, though closer to the books.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 02, 2016, 08:52:41 AM
I wouldn't know. 

A comic shop called Big Pete's on the main drag where I live has been flogging the Game of Thrones comic in its main display, but I can't see how anyone can get into it either.  It's supposed to be between the books plot and the HBO adaptation, though closer to the books.
Didn't know that.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 02, 2016, 09:01:09 AM
But yeah, I think he uses his death as and out of the Night's Watch and declares himself Jon Stark and tries to retake the North to defend against the Walkers.

Yeah my friend said this same thing...the Night's Watch oath ends with death.  He died, so he's free of the oath.

I don't like the way the show it shot as much anymore.  It's so choppy, like 3 minutes on each story line and then you flash to another one, and the next and the next.  It's starting to feel like a medieval soap opera.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to stop watching, but I thought overall the quality of the show seemed better the first few seasons.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 02, 2016, 10:51:33 AM
Boo on them bringing him back. Boo!

I liked his character, but I also like bold moves on behalf of writers when feel they can eliminate big players in violent sagas such as these because they've developed really strong and deep characters elsewhere. It develops poignant moments.

Not every story can pull this off. GoT can.

I know. Unpopular opinion 
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Post by: Scuzz on May 02, 2016, 11:30:24 AM
Yeah my friend said this same thing...the Night's Watch oath ends with death.  He died, so he's free of the oath.

I don't like the way the show it shot as much anymore.  It's so choppy, like 3 minutes on each story line and then you flash to another one, and the next and the next.  It's starting to feel like a medieval soap opera.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to stop watching, but I thought overall the quality of the show seemed better the first few seasons.

I have felt that way about the recent season and what I saw of season 5. Five minutes of one character and then on to the next character. Not a fan of that.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 02, 2016, 11:50:16 AM
They have developed so many characters, they don't want you to either forget them or their quest. Outta sight, outta mind
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 02, 2016, 11:51:50 AM
they don't want you to either forget them or their quest.

They need to start each scene with these questions three:

What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color?
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 02, 2016, 11:54:56 AM
They need to start each scene with these questions three:

What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color?
better get em right, otherwise Euron Greyjoy tosses you off a shoddy rope bridge
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 02, 2016, 11:58:13 AM
Even without that final scene, it was a hell of an episode. Top 5 all time for the show.

This!!!

Anyway, Jon is still dead in the books.

Well, he was stabbed at the end of the last published book, just like he was at the end of last season.
I guarantee you, whenever it is the next book is published, he won't stay dead for long...
Ok, unless Martin drags it out forever, but the end result will be the same.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 02, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Tyrion-Lannister-Drink-Things-Shirt/dp/B01E7C8UDA


What a great shirt.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 02, 2016, 01:13:56 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Tyrion-Lannister-Drink-Things-Shirt/dp/B01E7C8UDA


What a great shirt.
when I watched the show, I said to myself "now that's a line"
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 02, 2016, 02:14:37 PM
This!!!

Well, he was stabbed at the end of the last published book, just like he was at the end of last season.
I guarantee you, whenever it is the next book is published, he won't stay dead for long...
Ok, unless Martin drags it out forever, but the end result will be the same.
Well yeah, I'm just saying the series beat the books on that one. And a lot more this season.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 02, 2016, 03:25:32 PM
Well yeah, I'm just saying the series beat the books on that one. And a lot more this season.

well duh, the books are done as far as the series in concerned
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Post by: B_lake on May 02, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
But yeah, I think he uses his death as and out of the Night's Watch and declares himself Jon Stark and tries to retake the North to defend against the Walkers.

I really need to give this show a chance.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 02, 2016, 03:50:29 PM
Well yeah, I'm just saying the series beat the books on that one. And a lot more this season.

Anything that happens this season, at least that isn't left over from what they hadn't gotten to yet (like Balon), will beyond the published material.  The funny thing is, there's a whole (albeit small) contingent who are really pissed the show is continuing even though the corresponding books haven't been published.

LOL
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 02, 2016, 04:21:58 PM
I really need to give this show a chance.
Even my father watches.  And with the booby count so low the last couple of seasons, that's impressive.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 02, 2016, 04:52:21 PM
Anything that happens this season, at least that isn't left over from what they hadn't gotten to yet (like Balon), will beyond the published material.  The funny thing is, there's a whole (albeit small) contingent who are really pissed the show is continuing even though the corresponding books haven't been published.

LOL
Fuck those people.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 02, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
Even my father watches.  And with the booby count so low the last couple of seasons, that's impressive.
My dad started watching it too.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 02, 2016, 05:00:18 PM
My step-father watches the show, too.
When I turned my cell phone on this morning, there was a text from him about last night's episode waiting for me.

I responded, and his response to that was...

"Hodor." blitz1
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 02, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Fuck those people.

Absolutely, although certainly not literally.
The melt-downs are fucking hilarious, though.
It makes me wonder how those people deal with real life.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 02, 2016, 05:21:48 PM
My dad started watching it too.

what a pervert.....
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Post by: Scuzz on May 02, 2016, 05:23:22 PM
Anything that happens this season, at least that isn't left over from what they hadn't gotten to yet (like Balon), will beyond the published material.  The funny thing is, there's a whole (albeit small) contingent who are really pissed the show is continuing even though the corresponding books haven't been published.

LOL

Really? And whose fault is that? You have to believe GRRM led the show runners to assume he would finish before they did.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 02, 2016, 05:37:38 PM
Really? And whose fault is that? You have to believe GRRM led the show runners to assume he would finish before they did.

"It doesn't matter what GRRM told the show runners.  This is his magnum opus, and they should have enough respect for him and his work, without which they would be nothing, to not go beyond what he has published.  Period.  They are spoiling the books!  The show runners are talentless hacks.  There are not enough misfortunes I could wish on them."

-Some asshole book-wanker

I actually spliced in a few exact quotes.
As Bronn would say, "There's no cure for being a cunt."
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Post by: Scuzz on May 02, 2016, 05:50:32 PM
"It doesn't matter what GRRM told the show runners.  This is his magnum opus, and they should have enough respect for him and his work, without which they would be nothing, to not go beyond what he has published.  Period.  They are spoiling the books!  The show runners are talentless hacks.  There are not enough misfortunes I could wish on them."

-Some asshole book-wanker

I actually spliced in a few exact quotes.
As Bronn would say, "There's no cure for being a c***."

What a dumbass. He will be dead before GRRM finishes the series anyway.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 02, 2016, 05:58:37 PM
What a dumbass. He will be dead before GRRM finishes the series anyway.

The parts about being "talentless hacks" and "there are not enough misfortunes..." are direct quotes from one of the owners of westeros.org. facepalm
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 02, 2016, 06:01:06 PM
"It doesn't matter what GRRM told the show runners.  This is his magnum opus, and they should have enough respect for him and his work, without which they would be nothing, to not go beyond what he has published.  Period.  They are spoiling the books!  The show runners are talentless hacks.  There are not enough misfortunes I could wish on them."

-Some asshole book-wanker

I actually spliced in a few exact quotes.
As Bronn would say, "There's no cure for being a cunt."
thats the one thing this otherwise entertaining season has been missing

More Bronn!
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Post by: Scuzz on May 02, 2016, 06:25:22 PM
The parts about being "talentless hacks" and "there are not enough misfortunes..." are direct quotes from one of the owners of westeros.org. facepalm


geeks will be geeks I guess.....

The site I look at sometimes had the guy who reviewed the shows for season 5 announce he will not be back because of the misogyny and violence in season 5.

People are strange.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 02, 2016, 08:31:45 PM
geeks will be geeks I guess.....

The site I look at sometimes had the guy who reviewed the shows for season 5 announce he will not be back because of the misogyny and violence in season 5.

People are strange.
 

That was towerofthehand, right?
Don't know if it's the same guy you're speaking of, or not, but one of the main guys there did a "roundtable" discussion with folks from other sites during season 5, and he was going off about the misogyny and violence.  It turned out, he'd stopped watching after, like, the third episode, or something, and was basing his critique on what others had told him.  Needless to say, he got ripped to shreds.  He actually argued it was perfectly valid for him to critique something he'd never seen.  roll1

One of the other guys from that site, Marc, is also on staff on my favorite site.  I don't always agree with him, but, damn, the guy writes really, really well.  I always look forward to his "articles."
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 03, 2016, 07:16:35 AM
"It doesn't matter what GRRM told the show runners.  This is his magnum opus, and they should have enough respect for him and his work, without which they would be nothing, to not go beyond what he has published.  Period.  They are spoiling the books!  The show runners are talentless hacks.  There are not enough misfortunes I could wish on them."

-Some asshole book-wanker

I actually spliced in a few exact quotes.
As Bronn would say, "There's no cure for being a cunt."
I think you need to find us such a forum for the next field trip.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 03, 2016, 07:39:18 AM
And with the booby count so low the last couple of seasons, that's impressive.

They really have pulled their punched on the bewbage.  The first season every frame had some sort of nakedness going on.  Now that nudnik Khalessi is running around crowing about how she refuses to do any more nudity.  Beeeach, you got famous from flashing those medieval melons, don't get all uppity on us now!
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 03, 2016, 07:39:48 AM
I really need to give this show a chance.

Great show to binge watch, I didn't watch at first and saw the first three seasons in like a week.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 03, 2016, 03:52:29 PM
I think you need to find us such a forum for the next field trip.

cali1
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Post by: Scuzz on May 03, 2016, 04:10:51 PM
 

That was towerofthehand, right?
Don't know if it's the same guy you're speaking of, or not, but one of the main guys there did a "roundtable" discussion with folks from other sites during season 5, and he was going off about the misogyny and violence.  It turned out, he'd stopped watching after, like, the third episode, or something, and was basing his critique on what others had told him.  Needless to say, he got ripped to shreds.  He actually argued it was perfectly valid for him to critique something he'd never seen.  roll1

One of the other guys from that site, Marc, is also on staff on my favorite site.  I don't always agree with him, but, damn, the guy writes really, really well.  I always look forward to his "articles."

Yea. It read like the guy actually saw the episodes, but based on his remarks you had to wonder what changed for him between seasons 1-4 and season 5. I know a lot of people got pissed off about two events....

1) Cersei being "raped" by her brother.
2) Sansa being "raped" by Ramsey.
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Post by: B_lake on May 03, 2016, 04:12:25 PM
Great show to binge watch, I didn't watch at first and saw the first three seasons in like a week.

I just got complimentary HBO from Verizon until August, I wonder if that includes HBO Go?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 03, 2016, 04:27:54 PM
Yea. It read like the guy actually saw the episodes, but based on his remarks you had to wonder what changed for him between seasons 1-4 and season 5. I know a lot of people got pissed off about two events....

1) Cersei being "raped" by her brother.
2) Sansa being "raped" by Ramsey.

Yeah.  I mean, it's a shame the Cersei/Jaime scene in the sept came off the way it did.  To hear the actors in the scene tell it, they were not portraying it as a rape.  It seemed like they didn't want to throw the director/editor under the bus, but when the actors say they weren't portraying it that way, you kind of have to figure it was how it was filmed or edited.

As for Sansa, oh yeah, people went off the deep end over that.  Of course, they didn't want to hear far worse happened to the book-character whose place Sansa took.  That didn't matter.  It was sansa, and how dare they do that to sansa.  They also didn't want to hear, um, hey, they really didn't show anything.  Well, that was them making it about Theon, and blah, blah, blah.  Some people finally calmed down about it.  Others, well, not so much.  And yet, for all their bitching and whining, I guaran-damn-tee you a large percentage of them did not quit the show.  Some probably did, but big fucking deal.  I'm glad to be spared their whining.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 03, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
I just got complimentary HBO from Verizon until August, I wonder if that includes HBO Go?

It should.  Just get your email and password from verizon, and go to the HBOgo site.
It'll ask you for your service provider, then email and password.
Once you've entered that, you should have access to everything on HBOgo.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 04, 2016, 11:13:42 PM
I went ahead and pinned this thread cause I'm tired of having to look for it.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 04, 2016, 11:13:59 PM
Anyone seen the new trailer for episode 3?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 05, 2016, 12:48:14 PM
I went ahead and pinned this thread cause I'm tired of having to look for it.

I'm not sure if you're just lazy, or you're abusing your magic buttons.  ;)

Anyone seen the new trailer for episode 3?

Yep.
I. Can't. Wait.

My brain was already melted at the end of the last episode,
Then I hear, "Now it begins..." and I lost my shit!
I knew we were getting ToJ this season, but knowing we're getting it and actually seeing it are two different things.

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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 05, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
I'm not sure if you're just lazy, or you're abusing your magic buttons.  ;)

Yep.
I. Can't. Wait.

My brain was already melted at the end of the last episode,
Then I hear, "Now it begins..." and I lost my shit!
I knew we were getting ToJ this season, but knowing we're getting it and actually seeing it are two different things.


You think they will finally confirm the R + L = J theory? I do.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 05, 2016, 01:01:30 PM
You think they will finally confirm the R + L = J theory? I do.

Why else would they include the ToJ, if they weren't gonna confirm it?
I'm not sure we'll get the whole thing this Sunday, though.
I wouldn't be surprised if we got the fight this week, then "Promise me, Ned" in a later episode.
Whether we get it all in one episode, or they split it up...

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/55e743a6c14ecf989ac7a8f744e58582/tumblr_n3kfmpZxcG1srkiv2o1_400.gif)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 05, 2016, 01:37:06 PM
Why else would they include the ToJ, if they weren't gonna confirm it?
I'm not sure we'll get the whole thing this Sunday, though.
I wouldn't be surprised if we got the fight this week, then "Promise me, Ned" in a later episode.
Whether we get it all in one episode, or they split it up...

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/55e743a6c14ecf989ac7a8f744e58582/tumblr_n3kfmpZxcG1srkiv2o1_400.gif)

I also wonder if Jon himself will ever know.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 05, 2016, 01:44:22 PM
I also wonder if Jon himself will ever know.

Yeah, and if he does find out, how does he find out, and what impact will that knowledge have?
It seems to me he kind of has to find out, at least at some point.
There was the mention in the last episode that Bran will be leaving the cave.
Does he eventually run into Jon and tell him?
Does the fact Meera is Howland Reed's daughter somehow play into it?
Why do we need to know how Hodor became Hodor?
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Post by: Scuzz on May 05, 2016, 01:55:13 PM
In order for Jon to actually "claim the throne" though won't he need some kind of actual proof? I mean Bran telling him won't work with the other families.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 05, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
In order for Jon to actually "claim the throne" though won't he need some kind of actual proof? I mean Bran telling him won't work with the other families.
Hostile takeover.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 05, 2016, 02:05:02 PM
Actually, I think Jon takes out the Boltans and becomes the King in the North, like Robb, to fight the walkers. And I think Dany and the Dragons conquer southern Westeros. And then Jon and Dany marry to once again unite the Seven Kingdoms. That's also why I think Jon may never learn of his parentage.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 05, 2016, 02:06:41 PM
I don't really see Jon fighting for the Iron Throne.
He has much, much bigger concerns, at the moment.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 05, 2016, 02:08:42 PM
I don't really see Jon fighting for the Iron Throne.
He has much, much bigger concerns, at the moment.
Yeah. I think he takes control of the North to fight the Walkers.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 05, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Actually, I think Jon takes out the Boltans and becomes the King in the North, like Robb, to fight the walkers. And I think Dany and the Dragons conquer southern Westeros. And then Jon and Dany marry to once again unite the Seven Kingdoms. That's also why I think Jon may never learn of his parentage.

So they have a half dozen retard kids then.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 05, 2016, 03:31:01 PM
There's a long history of Targs. marrying relatives.
If brother/sister Targs. can marry, I don't see any reason aunt/nephew couldn't.
That said, I'm not one who expects Jon and Dany to hook up that way.

And, oh yeah, Dany can't have kids...not until the sun sets in the east and rises in the west, blah, blah, blah.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 05, 2016, 03:38:36 PM


And, oh yeah, Dany can't have kids...not until the sun sets in the east and rises in the west, blah, blah, blah.



she's never been with me
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 08, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
"My watch has ended."

FUCK YES!!!
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 08, 2016, 11:39:58 PM
"My watch has ended."

FUCK YES!!!

That was pretty perfect.

It took me a couple of hours to be able to think of anything other than shaggy, though.
I do have a tiny hope it's a ruse, but it's only tiny.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 09, 2016, 09:10:24 AM
Did anyone catch this scene from last night's GoT?

(http://thisevilempire.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fonzie3.gif)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 09, 2016, 09:51:28 AM
Did anyone catch this scene from last night's GoT?

(http://thisevilempire.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/fonzie3.gif)
How did it jump the shark?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 09, 2016, 10:31:32 AM
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How did it jump the shark?

Perhaps I'm being a little harsh but I'm just not feeling it this season.  Whatever the magic was the first few seasons is largely gone.  It's so choppy with the 3 minutes per story line and then not seeing a story line again for 2 episodes, its starting to feel like a bad day time soap.

I mean I'm in for the long haul but I don't look forward to it as much as I used to.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on May 09, 2016, 11:49:07 AM
Book Purists >>>>>> HBLOW ME Show fans
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Post by: Scuzz on May 09, 2016, 12:11:16 PM
Book Purists >>>>>> HBLOW ME Show fans

HBO has now gone beyond the books.....so book purists have nothing to stand on except their own fantasies.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 10, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
Perhaps I'm being a little harsh but I'm just not feeling it this season.  Whatever the magic was the first few seasons is largely gone.  It's so choppy with the 3 minutes per story line and then not seeing a story line again for 2 episodes, its starting to feel like a bad day time soap.

I mean I'm in for the long haul but I don't look forward to it as much as I used to.
Well, first of all, that's not jumping the shark. Secondly, it's always been kind of like that. Jumping from story to story. And then there are the episodes that focus more on one story over the others.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 10, 2016, 03:47:47 PM
Well, first of all, that's not jumping the shark. Secondly, it's always been kind of like that. Jumping from story to story. And then there are the episodes that focus more on one story over the others.
All of that complaint is code for: "less tittys", I think.

But of course the tone is going to change.  GoT has a beginning, middle and end, and pace will accommodate those shift points.  The other problem is that GoT has always had a cast of thousands, and doing an episode that features 100% of a battle at The Wall will probably infuriate those fans who were more primarily concerned about what Sansa is doing, or who's banging Daenerys.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 10, 2016, 04:53:49 PM
All of that complaint is code for: "less tittys", I think.

But of course the tone is going to change.  GoT has a beginning, middle and end, and pace will accommodate those shift points.  The other problem is that GoT has always had a cast of thousands, and doing an episode that features 100% of a battle at The Wall will probably infuriate those fans who were more primarily concerned about what Sansa is doing, or who's banging Daenerys.
That's a good example of an episode focusing on one storyline. I think there was a quick check on Tyrion and the rest was the set at The Wall.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 10, 2016, 05:59:18 PM
Well, given the titles of the episode that were released today, I think it's pretty certain in what episode McShane's appearing.

Woooooooooooooooooo-hooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

He's playing who most thought he was, and giving the speech most hoped he would.
Fuckin' A!!!
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 10, 2016, 07:56:12 PM
Well, given the titles of the episode that were released today, I think it's pretty certain in what episode McShane's appearing.

Woooooooooooooooooo-hooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

He's playing who most thought he was, and giving the speech most hoped he would.
Fuckin' A!!!
Cleganebowl?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 10, 2016, 08:30:56 PM
Cleganebowl?

GET HYPE

Not exactly, but one couldn't have Cleganebowl without it.

*If you don't want to know the titles of upcoming episodes, stop reading now!!!*

Episode 6 is called Blood of my Blood,
And Episode 7 is called...

The Broken Man.

I about shit when I saw it.
The thought of McShane doing that speech...full on nerdgasm.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 10, 2016, 09:30:47 PM
GET HYPE

Not exactly, but one couldn't have Cleganebowl without it.

*If you don't want to know the titles of upcoming episodes, stop reading now!!!*

Episode 6 is called Blood of my Blood,
And Episode 7 is called...

The Broken Man.

I about shit when I saw it.
The thought of McShane doing that speech...full on nerdgasm.
I know right? I just wonder how obvious they make the gravedigger at first.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 10, 2016, 09:58:45 PM
I know right? I just wonder how obvious they make the gravedigger at first.

My guess is not obvious, at all.
You have McShane.  You have that speech.
You don't want the audience distracted by anything else.

It wouldn't surprise me if it's not set on the Quiet Isle.
I seem to remember some interview with McShane that made me think it may not be.
That's fine.  Wherever there are dead bodies, you need someone to dig the graves.

***Non-book readers...don't google this stuff.  Trust me on this.  Just wait and see.***
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 11, 2016, 08:44:27 AM
Well, first of all, that's not jumping the shark. Secondly, it's always been kind of like that. Jumping from story to story. And then there are the episodes that focus more on one story over the others.

There were far fewer stories in the first couple of seasons.  I mean just think of the opening map sequence.  At the beginning they went from King's Landing, to Winterfell, to the Wall.  Then eventually it expanded to Meereen.  Now I think they had to extend the #*&%*ing intro music because there are 47 locations on the map, 32 of which I could care less about.

It's gotten to expansive, too many characters I don't care about.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 11, 2016, 01:36:15 PM
There were far fewer stories in the first couple of seasons.  I mean just think of the opening map sequence.  At the beginning they went from King's Landing, to Winterfell, to the Wall.  Then eventually it expanded to Meereen.  Now I think they had to extend the #*&%*ing intro music because there are 47 locations on the map, 32 of which I could care less about.

It's gotten to expansive, too many characters I don't care about.

I can't help but chuckle reading that, manny, as I'm sure most folks who have read the books, at least those who don't think it should be treated like some holy fuckin' text, would chuckle.  The expansiveness of the show is nothing compared to what Martin did in the books.  In fact, the big criticism of the last two published books is Martin brought in way too many characters and storylines, both at the expense of established characters and storylines, and at the expense of the stories actually going anywhere.  The show has trimmed so much of that stuff, and I mean soooooo much, but even with all that cutting and combining, it's still a lot.  However, given the way people are getting offed left and right, the show, at least, should start contracting, again.  Who knows about the books.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 11, 2016, 04:02:02 PM
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The expansiveness of the show is nothing compared to what Martin did in the books. 

I'm sure that's true, but with a book or books you can afford to get a little more in depth.  I can read a book for hours and hours on end, and thumb back to check names and places if I want.  With the show, I have 58 minutes a week to get everything I need.

It's my biggest fear about the impending Dark Tower movie(s)...the story is SO expansive I can't imagine how they are going to successfully bring it into movie format without losing the richness of the story.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 11, 2016, 04:09:19 PM
I'm sure that's true, but with a book or books you can afford to get a little more in depth.  I can read a book for hours and hours on end, and thumb back to check names and places if I want.  With the show, I have 58 minutes a week to get everything I need.

It's my biggest fear about the impending Dark Tower movie(s)...the story is SO expansive I can't imagine how they are going to successfully bring it into movie format without losing the richness of the story.

I know exactly what you're saying, Manny.  That said, he made, imo, some really, really poor decisions, wrote himself into a huge clusterfuck, and if he can write his way out of it in any way that's ultimately satisfying, at least without having to wade through a bunch of really extraneous shit, it will take more than the two books he's predicted.  I think he needs to introduce a couple of plagues, or go forward with the ones he's introduced in the books, and wipe out a whole shitload of characters and storylines...hahaha.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 11, 2016, 06:19:45 PM
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 11, 2016, 07:41:05 PM
I'm sure that's true, but with a book or books you can afford to get a little more in depth.  I can read a book for hours and hours on end, and thumb back to check names and places if I want.  With the show, I have 58 minutes a week to get everything I need.

It's my biggest fear about the impending Dark Tower movie(s)...the story is SO expansive I can't imagine how they are going to successfully bring it into movie format without losing the richness of the story.
Yeah, I'm not to keen on The Dark Tower adaption.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 11, 2016, 09:14:31 PM
Yeah, I'm not to keen on The Dark Tower adaption.
Sol doesn't like it for another reason...
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 11, 2016, 09:48:42 PM
Sol doesn't like it for another reason...
fuckin Tower will take your wallet
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 11, 2016, 09:50:06 PM
I'm glad that the hanging scene at the end was done with a short fall. They didn't deserve the privilege of having their necks break after the drop
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 12, 2016, 09:45:43 PM
It's only 9 seconds long, but here you go... grin1

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Post by: Misterfamous on May 13, 2016, 07:13:59 AM
It's only 9 seconds long, but here you go... grin1



Sure... ruin another pair of Kipp's underwear, why doncha...
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 14, 2016, 07:36:08 PM
I didn't think they'd get the whole thing done so quickly.  blitz1

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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 16, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
Khaleesi in the house!  Best episode this season I thought.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 16, 2016, 10:16:33 AM
Khaleesi in the house!  Best episode this season I thought.
The CGI boobs?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 16, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
Nevermind, those were real.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 16, 2016, 10:22:19 AM
The CGI boobs?

Funny about that.  So Emilia Clarke has made a big deal out of not being filmed naked any more after the first season.  Then that scene last night looked like it was the worst photoshop ever.  But this morning I read that she's saying it was all her.  What gives?


"If there was question about the nude portion of the scene, Clarke said, "This is all me, all proud, all strong. I’m just feeling genuinely happy I said ‘Yes.’ That ain’t no body double!”
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 16, 2016, 10:23:12 AM
Nevermind, those were real.

Yeah that's what she's saying, but it really looked fake didn't it?  I thought it was a body double with her head pasted on. 
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 16, 2016, 10:26:41 AM
Yeah that's what she's saying, but it really looked fake didn't it?  I thought it was a body double with her head pasted on. 
I thought they're were fake watching it. It might have something to do with the fire and how they filmed it and did the special effects to put her in the middle of it.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 16, 2016, 10:28:30 AM
Funny about that.  So Emilia Clarke has made a big deal out of not being filmed naked any more after the first season.  Then that scene last night looked like it was the worst photoshop ever.  But this morning I read that she's saying it was all her.  What gives?


"If there was question about the nude portion of the scene, Clarke said, "This is all me, all proud, all strong. I’m just feeling genuinely happy I said ‘Yes.’ That ain’t no body double!”
Well, she never said she wouldn't do nude scenes. She would do them as long as they advanced the story. So she didn't want to do scenes where she was nude just to be nude.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 16, 2016, 11:21:49 AM
I wanted some ass shots
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 16, 2016, 12:36:05 PM
Funny about that.  So Emilia Clarke has made a big deal out of not being filmed naked any more after the first season.  Then that scene last night looked like it was the worst photoshop ever.  But this morning I read that she's saying it was all her.  What gives?


"If there was question about the nude portion of the scene, Clarke said, "This is all me, all proud, all strong. I’m just feeling genuinely happy I said ‘Yes.’ That ain’t no body double!”
We've officially reached the point where we can't trust the producers and cast anymore, that's what: 

"Jon Snow is definitely dead, yup... dead... uh huh...except that he isn't."

"Catelyn Stark might not be dead... maybe she'll come back !  Oh wait, we're not doing that plot line- fooled you !"

"The Sand Snakes killed Myrcella by poison as they watched her ship sail away.  Yes.  Oh, but they were also onboard a short time later to stab her Dornish boyfriend through the back of the head.  Teleportation !"

Etc.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 16, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
We've officially reached the point where we can't trust the producers and cast anymore, that's what: 

"Jon Snow is definitely dead, yup... dead... uh huh...except that he isn't."

"Catelyn Stark might not be dead... maybe she'll come back !  Oh wait, we're not doing that plot line- fooled you !"

"The Sand Snakes killed Myrcella by poison as they watched her ship sail away.  Yes.  Oh, but they were also onboard a short time later to stab her Dornish boyfriend through the back of the head.  Teleportation !"

Etc.

First of all, Kipp is right when he said she never said she refused to do any further nudity.  That's a rumor that started somewhere, spread, and became accepted as fact.

Secondly, while I'm not really a fan of what they did with Dorne, the Sand Snakes were not on the ship a short time later.  The ship was in King's Landing when they appeared on it.  It had sailed all the way from Dorne.  While it would have been much better had they just shown a brief shot of another ship anchored close to the ship we saw leaving Dorne with Myrcella, Jaime, and Trystane, it isn't not beyond the realm of possibility the Sand Snakes boarded a smaller, faster ship after we saw them on the docks in Dorne.

Oh, and all the secrecy about Jon, or the attempts at it, were due in large part to thinking Martin would meet his deadline, and the next book would be out before this season aired, so Martin could have revealed Jon came back on his own terms.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 16, 2016, 01:50:48 PM
First of all, Kipp is right when he said she never said she refused to do any further nudity.  That's a rumor that started somewhere, spread, and became accepted as fact.

Secondly, while I'm not really a fan of what they did with Dorne, the Sand Snakes were not on the ship a short time later.  The ship was in King's Landing when they appeared on it.  It had sailed all the way from Dorne.  While it would have been much better had they just shown a brief shot of another ship anchored close to the ship we saw leaving Dorne with Myrcella, Jaime, and Trystane, it isn't not beyond the realm of possibility the Sand Snakes boarded a smaller, faster ship after we saw them on the docks in Dorne.

Oh, and all the secrecy about Jon, or the attempts at it, were due in large part to thinking Martin would meet his deadline, and the next book would be out before this season aired, so Martin could have revealed Jon came back on his own terms.
I didn't know that the Daenerys thing was a rumor.  The Sand Snakes thing looks like a bad bit of writing, when HBO realized it needed to kill off the Dornish king and his heir too.  As for Jon- the HBO team absolutely tried to spin that one like it was a possibility Jon was actually dead.  Reminded me of that awful show 'Lost' and the production team claiming repeatedly that the show wasn't about some kind of purgatory before the final episode where, shocker- it's revealed to be Purgatory.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 16, 2016, 02:08:52 PM
I didn't know that the Daenerys thing was a rumor.  The Sand Snakes thing looks like a bad bit of writing, when HBO realized it needed to kill off the Dornish king and his heir too.  As for Jon- the HBO team absolutely tried to spin that one like it was a possibility Jon was actually dead.  Reminded me of that awful show 'Lost' and the production team claiming repeatedly that the show wasn't about some kind of purgatory before the final episode where, shocker- it's revealed to be Purgatory.

I'm not sure why you think I was saying the HBO team didn't try to make people think Jon was dead and would stay that way.  They absolutely did.  What I was saying is the reason they went to such lengths to make it appear that way.  They were trying not to give it away with the thought Martin would have the next book out before season 6 began airing.  There would have been no reason to make a big "Jon isn't coming back" had the book already been out, because all the book readers would have known for a fact he didn't stay dead, instead of just being pretty convinced, but not 100% sure.  Since it wasn't, they tried to do Martin the courtesy of letting him be the one to reveal that, thus all the attempts to convince people Jon wasn't coming back.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 16, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
I'm not sure why you think I was saying the HBO team didn't try to make people think Jon was dead and would stay that way.  They absolutely did.  What I was saying is the reason they went to such lengths to make it appear that way.  They were trying not to give it away with the thought Martin would have the next book out before season 6 began airing.  There would have been no reason to make a big "Jon isn't coming back" had the book already been out, because all the book readers would have known for a fact he didn't stay dead, instead of just being pretty convinced, but not 100% sure.  Since it wasn't, they tried to do Martin the courtesy of letting him be the one to reveal that, thus all the attempts to convince people Jon wasn't coming back.
I think GRRM is a fat load who more enjoys hanging out on the HBO set as a technical consultant than actually writing the books.  He looks like what would happen if Sol ate Peter Jackson from 2009.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 16, 2016, 02:47:06 PM
I'm still laughing about this...

(http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/googif1.gif)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 16, 2016, 02:50:01 PM
I'm still laughing about this...

(http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/googif1.gif)
I've never been one to "ship" characters, but damn do I want to see those two together.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 16, 2016, 02:56:32 PM
I've never been one to "ship" characters, but damn do I want to see those two together.
They'd make hideous gigantic babies, that's for sure.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 16, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
I've never been one to "ship" characters, but damn do I want to see those two together.

I don't know I want to see them actually get together so much as I want to see more of Tormund trying to hit on her and Brienne reacting to it.  The look on her face is so..."and wtf am I supposed to do with this?"  And the fact Tormund is so bowled over all he can do is make googly eyes at her...I mean, Tormund, who would immediately start talking about his "memeber" to any other woman...rendered speechless...just so funny.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 16, 2016, 04:32:20 PM
50 shades of grey shit right there
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 16, 2016, 04:34:49 PM
50 shades of grey shit right there



rofl rofl rofl
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 16, 2016, 07:50:17 PM
"That makes me moist"


New grad ssb
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 22, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
For the internet is dark and full of spoilers...


So, it looks like tonight's episode is already out.  Apparently, HBONordic fucked up and uploaded it early.
Before they could take it down, people got hold of it, and now it's everywhere.
So, if you don't wanna know what happens, be careful where you read.
If anyone he chooses to watch it early, please wait until after the first official airing is over (it begins at 9pm eastern) to say anything.
Thanks.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 22, 2016, 02:35:28 PM
SPOILER WARNING









 http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/672509/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-resurrected-spin-off

So we might get a Jon Snow spin-off series after GoT ends. That would have to mean Jon lives through the end of the show, right?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 22, 2016, 09:06:08 PM
 what1
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 22, 2016, 09:06:16 PM
Holy fucking shit.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 22, 2016, 09:12:55 PM
Holy fucking shit.
this
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 22, 2016, 10:13:58 PM
I think I'm gonna have to watch it, again, before I can saying much of anything coherent.
A lot happened, but I can barely remember anything but that last scene.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 23, 2016, 12:51:05 AM
I think I'm gonna have to watch it, again, before I can saying much of anything coherent.
A lot happened, but I can barely remember anything but that last scene.
Hodur's whole life was apparently for shit.  Doubtful the poor bastard ever even got laid.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 23, 2016, 07:41:32 AM
Wow
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Post by: Scuzz on May 23, 2016, 03:39:15 PM
So there is time travel in this episode? Time travel?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 23, 2016, 04:25:57 PM
So there is time travel in this episode? Time travel?

Kind of.
Bran is using the weirnet to see the past, and time streams kind of cross.
According to the interview with D&D, they got this straight from Martin.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 23, 2016, 04:30:23 PM
So the 'Hold the Door" thing is supposed to be straight from GRRM. I am seeing people "discuss" this all over the place.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 23, 2016, 04:50:29 PM
Bran can time travel AND change events.  Does he change the past and bring people back?
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 23, 2016, 04:51:08 PM
I also read the 1st Night Walker might be a Stark
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 23, 2016, 05:30:09 PM
So the 'Hold the Door" thing is supposed to be straight from GRRM. I am seeing people "discuss" this all over the place.

Yep...straight from GRRM's mouf...oh, and it isn't nearly as cheesy as it sounds (which, to me, is really fuckin' cheesy, or would be, if I hadn't seen it).

Bran can time travel AND change events.  Does he change the past and bring people back?

I don't think he'll do that.  I think, after seeing what happened 'cause of what he chose to do, he won't fuck around, anymore.

I also read the 1st Night Walker might be a Stark

Yeah, I saw that, too.  I love that idea, since it's said a Stark (Bran the Builder) built the Wall, and that would pit Stark against Stark, since the Wall was put up to keep thhe WW's out.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 23, 2016, 06:31:15 PM
Bran can time travel AND change events.  Does he change the past and bring people back?
No. The past is already written. What happened is what was supposed to happen.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 23, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
No. The past is already written. What happened is what was supposed to happen.

WTF? Sure it's written, because a guy in the future was there to effect it.

Sorry, I just have a problem with using time travel to do stuff in a serious damn story.  HUURRUUMMPPHHH.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 23, 2016, 06:44:43 PM


Sorry, I just have a problem with using time travel to do stuff in a serious damn story.  HUURRUUMMPPHHH.



it would make the Raiders great again
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Post by: Scuzz on May 23, 2016, 06:45:57 PM


it would make the Raiders great again

damn straight
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 23, 2016, 06:55:54 PM
WTF? Sure it's written, because a guy in the future was there to effect it.

Sorry, I just have a problem with using time travel to do stuff in a serious damn story.  HUURRUUMMPPHHH.

Complain to Georgey Porgey, then.  thumb1


I do hope it doesn't get used much, or preferably, at all, again, though, else it just becomes...
Lame.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 23, 2016, 07:01:46 PM
Complain to Georgey Porgey, then.  thumb1


I do hope it doesn't get used much, or preferably, at all, again, though, else it just becomes...
Lame.
I don't think it will. Bran saw what happens when he interferes and doesn't want to be responsible for that again. He'll still go back to see things, but not interect.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 23, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
I don't think it will. Bran saw what happens when he interferes and doesn't want to be responsible for that again. He'll still go back to see things, but not interect.

That's what I was getting at, earlier.  The look on his face as he realized everything, and I think it'll be even worse when he "wakes up."  We only saw his reaction in the vision, there could be a gut-wrenching conversation between Bran and Meera.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 24, 2016, 09:21:46 AM
Quote
a Stark (Bran the Builder) built the Wall,

Did he make the Boltons pay for it?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 24, 2016, 09:23:32 AM
I just have a problem with using time travel to do stuff in a serious damn story.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/8/8e/Doc_1955.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20070221030222)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 24, 2016, 11:40:47 AM
I just have a problem with using time travel to do stuff in a serious damn story.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/8/8e/Doc_1955.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20070221030222)
So dragons, zombies, warning, and ice guys are okay, but you draw the line at time travel?
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 11:44:02 AM
So dragons, zombies, warning, and ice guys are okay, but you draw the line at time travel?

yes....time travel thrown into a story that isn't based on time travel (i.e. BTTF) is a lazy way of resolving things. As much as I love the Star Trek re-boot the time travel in that is disconcerting. Although Star Trek does have a history of using time travel.

What would you think of Star Wars or Marvel if they resolved something with time travel?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 24, 2016, 11:46:29 AM
Quote
So dragons, zombies, warning, and ice guys are okay, but you draw the line at time travel?

I have a friend who is a huge GoT fan and said the same thing.  Time travel is not "realistic" apparently lol.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 24, 2016, 11:51:14 AM
yes....time travel thrown into a story that isn't based on time travel (i.e. BTTF) is a lazy way of resolving things. As much as I love the Star Trek re-boot the time travel in that is disconcerting. Although Star Trek does have a history of using time travel.

What would you think of Star Wars or Marvel if they resolved something with time travel?
Marvel uses time travel all the time. And GoT didn't use time travel to resolve anything. It made things worse for everyone.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 12:05:53 PM
Marvel uses time travel all the time. And GoT didn't use time travel to resolve anything. It made things worse for everyone.

It used it though.

When has Marvel (I am only talking of the movies as I know squat about the comics) used time travel.

I know Superman used it in the first movie 25+ years ago, and it was stupid.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 12:08:30 PM
I have a friend who is a huge GoT fan and said the same thing.  Time travel is not "realistic" apparently lol.

GRRM has used a very gentle version of magic throughout the series. No wizard has showed up ala Gandalf and won a battle. Melisandre is the biggest magic user and she hasn't exactly dominated things. Sure, some people have been brought back to life, but time travel is different. Time travel is a game breaker to any story because it means nothing needs to be or remain the way it is.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 24, 2016, 01:30:31 PM
WTF? Sure it's written, because a guy in the future was there to effect it.

Sorry, I just have a problem with using time travel to do stuff in a serious damn story.  HUURRUUMMPPHHH.
This sort of time-travel (bootstrap) is always a difficult thing to do in fiction.  It's made all the more difficult, because pre-warg Bran was unaware of Hodor's condition and because Hodor himself leads such a miserable existence. 


It used it though.

When has Marvel (I am only talking of the movies as I know squat about the comics) used time travel.

I know Superman used it in the first movie 25+ years ago, and it was stupid.
Marvel hasn't used it yet in the movies, as far as I know.  In the comics, probably every other issue featured some form of time-travel.  There was even one villain, Kang, who traveled from various points in his existence (in different forms) over thousands of years, to battle the Avengers.

Superman's was pretty stupid, yeah.  Just by changing the rotation of the planet for a bit, he causes time to reverse ?  Even in 1978, I'm pretty sure we knew that some planets rotated the opposite direction, and didn't cause earthquakes to happen the other way...
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 24, 2016, 01:54:41 PM
It used it though.

When has Marvel (I am only talking of the movies as I know squat about the comics) used time travel.

I know Superman used it in the first movie 25+ years ago, and it was stupid.
X-Men: Days of Future Past. Came out in 2014. Arguably the best of the X-Men movies, top 5 comic book movie all time.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 24, 2016, 01:56:23 PM
GRRM has used a very gentle version of magic throughout the series. No wizard has showed up ala Gandalf and won a battle. Melisandre is the biggest magic user and she hasn't exactly dominated things. Sure, some people have been brought back to life, but time travel is different. Time travel is a game breaker to any story because it means nothing needs to be or remain the way it is.
Except Bran didn't alter the past in anyway. Everything happened as it was supposed to. So no, Bran can't go back in time and stop the White Walkers from being created or to stop Ned being executed.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 02:04:12 PM
So, I've been thinking about the whole Hodor thing.
When Bran wargs adult Hodor in the cave, while Bran is still in his vision, Young Hodor is not warged, as his eyes remain normal.
It isn't until we start to hear Meera's voice calling to adult Hodor that Young Hodor starts to be affected.
At that point, his eyes go white and he start convulsing.
Now, there are two times eyes go white:  when someone is warging/being warged and when someone is seeing.
When Joejn would have his visions, not only would his eyes go white, he would go into convulsions, just like Young Hodor did.
So, my thought/question is, is part of what happened a result of Young Hodor being able to see, like Jojen was able to see?
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 24, 2016, 02:06:12 PM
So, I've been thinking about the whole Hodor thing.
When Bran wargs adult Hodor in the cave, while Bran is still in his vision, Young Hodor is not warged, as his eyes remain normal.
It isn't until we start to hear Meera's voice calling to adult Hodor that Young Hodor starts to be affected.
At that point, his eyes go white and he start convulsing.
Now, there are two times eyes go white:  when someone is warging/being warged and when someone is seeing.
When Joejn would have his visions, not only would his eyes go white, he would go into convulsions, just like Young Hodor did.
So, my thought/question is, is part of what happened a result of Young Hodor being able to see, like Jojen was able to see?
Stop mind-raping me !
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 02:10:00 PM
So, I've been thinking about the whole Hodor thing.
When Bran wargs adult Hodor in the cave, while Bran is still in his vision, Young Hodor is not warged, as his eyes remain normal.
It isn't until we start to hear Meera's voice calling to adult Hodor that Young Hodor starts to be affected.
At that point, his eyes go white and he start convulsing.
Now, there are two times eyes go white:  when someone is warging/being warged and when someone is seeing.
When Joejn would have his visions, not only would his eyes go white, he would go into convulsions, just like Young Hodor did.
So, my thought/question is, is part of what happened a result of Young Hodor being able to see, like Jojen was able to see?

It's a TV show for gawds sake....
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 02:28:36 PM
It's a TV show for gawds sake....

Yep...just tits and dragons...
Lots of fun, though!
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 24, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
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is part of what happened a result of Young Hodor being able to see, like Jojen was able to see?

I thought so.  My idea is that Young Hodor witnessed his own death in the future, and the knowledge of that drove him into madness/broke his mind.  Perhaps his mind was so badly broken that after that moment he didn't remember what happened, and was able to live the rest of his life as the big simpleton we knew and loved, without knowing his inevitable future.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
I thought so.  My idea is that Young Hodor witnessed his own death in the future, and the knowledge of that drove him into madness/broke his mind.  Perhaps his mind was so badly broken that after that moment he didn't remember what happened, and was able to live the rest of his life as the big simpleton we knew and loved, without knowing his inevitable future.

That tends to be pretty much my view, too, Manny.
I do think, whether it's at the point where the cave was surrounded, or a different moment, what's about to happen becomes clear to him...he starts to remember, if you will, but I don't think he lived his life, as you put it, knowing his inevitable future.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 24, 2016, 02:43:58 PM
I thought so.  My idea is that Young Hodor witnessed his own death in the future, and the knowledge of that drove him into madness/broke his mind.  Perhaps his mind was so badly broken that after that moment he didn't remember what happened, and was able to live the rest of his life as the big simpleton we knew and loved, without knowing his inevitable future.
I think Bran being in the past and warging into present day Hodor linked past Hodor's mind the the present and he just couldn't handle it.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 24, 2016, 03:01:27 PM
Yep...just tits and dragons...

And dicks.  Dicks with two warts.  I could have done without that, but I guess it's only fair to show some dicks.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 24, 2016, 03:03:21 PM
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but I don't think he lived his life, as you put it, knowing his inevitable future.

Unlike poor Rell.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 03:12:10 PM
And dicks.  Dicks with two warts.  I could have done without that, but I guess it's only fair to show some dicks.

I didn't notice the warts, then again, I didn't look closely.
I just remember thinking...whoa...ladies and gentlemen, we have balls.
The close-up on the balls was kinda funny, at least to me.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 24, 2016, 03:26:14 PM
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I didn't notice the warts, then again, I didn't look closely.

I don't think the warts were visible...the owner of the dick was lamenting about them.

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The close-up on the balls was kinda funny, at least to me.

It was funny for sure, especially because they faded out of the previous scene RIGHT to the balls.  It took me a minute to recognize what I was seeing and then I was like OH DAMN!
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 03:32:42 PM
I don't think the warts were visible...the owner of the dick was lamenting about them.

It was funny for sure, especially because they faded out of the previous scene RIGHT to the balls.  It took me a minute to recognize what I was seeing and then I was like OH DAMN!

Oh, ok.  I knew he was lamenting about them...I just figured I missed the warts 'cause I was too busy laughing about the balls.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
So I have seen people talk about Hodor the TV character and Hodor the book character. And I agree with what I have read, that Hodor on TV is a much more "fleshed" out character, a much more meaningful, sympathetic character than the Hodor in the books.

Now maybe I have forgotten some stuff, but Hodor in the books is basically just a means to get Bran from place to place. I have to imagine, if GRRM wrote in the finish for Hodor as was shown, that he must have really added to the readers knowledge of Hodor in the unreleased book 6. So GRRM in the book probably answers the question of what happened to young Hodor.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 04:30:13 PM
I think a lot of that is simply due to the differing natures of the mediums.
Hodor had a fair amount of screentime, and the audience could see his facial expression and hear the variations in his inflection.
You can describe that in a book, and gawd knows Martin is all for descriptions...endless description (and I'm one who loves detailed descriptions, but dayum)...but it isn't the same as seeing it.

It's kind of amazing to me a character can be so endearing given he only ever said one fucking word the whole time.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 04:33:48 PM
I think a lot of that is simply due to the differing natures of the mediums.
Hodor had a fair amount of screentime, and the audience could see his facial expression and hear the variations in his inflection.
You can describe that in a book, and gawd knows Martin is all for descriptions...endless description (and I'm one who loves detailed descriptions, but dayum)...but it isn't the same as seeing it.

It's kind of amazing to me a character can be so endearing given he only ever said one fucking word the whole time.

don't you mean three......  "Hold the door"      :)
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 24, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
don't you mean three......  "Hold the door"      :)
Didn't he have a couple lines as a kid a couple episodes ago?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 04:37:35 PM
don't you mean three......  "Hold the door"      :)

Whachoo talkin' about???
The 3 words were when he was still Wylis. grin1
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 04:49:00 PM
Whachoo talkin' about???
The 3 words were when he was still Wylis. grin1

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcZFVpUt-3LUHrEcY65zljNk3Wpt8HHq-RVrxQ7s8wcySTpqfv)
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 24, 2016, 04:51:35 PM
Was Hodor himself when he died, or was a fan still in him?  I have read that if you are in a creature/person when they die, it affects the other person forever
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 24, 2016, 04:52:50 PM
Bran still in him
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 04:59:30 PM
I don't know, Chocolate.
We may find out in the next episode, though.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 05:07:33 PM
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So the producers have stated since Sunday night's show that their meeting with GRRM a few years ago resulted in 3 big "wow" moments being revealed to them. One was Shireen being sacrificed, which we saw last season, the second being the Hodor reveal, and the third is tied into the finale of the entire story.

GRRM got online Mon nite to say that the Hodor situation will be very different in his books. Go figure.

So that's a post from another web site. I don't know where the guy got his info or if he is right.
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Post by: Scuzz on May 24, 2016, 05:08:01 PM
Was Hodor himself when he died, or was a fan still in him?  I have read that if you are in a creature/person when they die, it affects the other person forever

What's to stop Hodor from coming back as a white walking zombie?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 24, 2016, 05:16:25 PM
So that's a post from another web site. I don't know where the guy got his info or if he is right.

There's an EW article about it...something about "3 holy shit" moments.
I didn't read the EW article, though, just the report of it over on WatcherontheWall.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 24, 2016, 07:34:06 PM
And dicks.  Dicks with two warts.  I could have done without that, but I guess it's only fair to show some dicks.
That was for the ladies, wasn't it ?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 25, 2016, 08:12:08 AM
lol
(http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/18/21/1c179cc703184c93f910012a0ad249d5.jpg)
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Post by: Scuzz on May 25, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
Bran still in him

that's gay talk....
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 25, 2016, 01:42:46 PM
lol
(http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/18/21/1c179cc703184c93f910012a0ad249d5.jpg)
fuck. Now I have to copy this in a few places where I regularly use the elevator
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on May 25, 2016, 03:31:51 PM
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F***. Now I have to copy this in a few places where I regularly use the elevator

I planned on doing the same thing this morning when I got into the office, but to my chagrin our elevator says "Door Open" which just doesn't work.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 25, 2016, 03:46:27 PM
I planned on doing the same thing this morning when I got into the office, but to my chagrin our elevator says "Door Open" which just doesn't work.

Apparently, quite a few people are doing that.
I've seen a few different pictures of it.
Also, this...

(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/E60VM95ctG6NJi8fDH51QpdGV6g=/950x534/https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Fcard%2Fimage%2F97002%2F64fb04cb52a647e9bd5d8ea7bd47476a.jpg)

And this...

(http://static1.techinsider.io/image/5744668852bcd05c658c493e-1200-950/cjomxacwuaath_g.jpg)
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 25, 2016, 04:28:43 PM
The second one is a bit busy, but I love that 1st door stop
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 25, 2016, 04:29:52 PM
I planned on doing the same thing this morning when I got into the office, but to my chagrin our elevator says "Door Open" which just doesn't work.
damn. So close. Keep it handy in case you enter a different building
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 25, 2016, 07:45:37 PM
MOAR BRONN
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 25, 2016, 07:45:54 PM
MOAR BRONN
This
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 25, 2016, 07:46:19 PM
Nobody seems to care about Osha. She may have been gruff, but she was loyal.
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Post by: Red Hessian on May 25, 2016, 07:47:17 PM
Bronn is one of the two or three best characters on the show.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 25, 2016, 08:53:24 PM
I planned on doing the same thing this morning when I got into the office, but to my chagrin our elevator says "Door Open" which just doesn't work.
Just print out the "Hold Door" part too.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 26, 2016, 01:10:56 PM
487

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjJnVK6WkAAUGpN.jpg:large)

487
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 29, 2016, 11:12:32 PM
Benjen. Fucking. Stark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BENJEN!!!



















BENJEN!!!

and did I mention...


































BENJEN!!!!
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 29, 2016, 11:16:17 PM
Even better, I saw Bronn in the preview for next week.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 29, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
I love Bronn, but it doesn't get any better for me than seeing Benjen, again.
I thought they'd laid the groundwork for it, but didn't want to let myself believe it, lest I be a little crushed (yep, I admit it, I would have been a little crushed, just tits and dragons, or not)...but we got him.

BENJEN!!!
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 30, 2016, 08:17:35 AM
Why so excited for him? 
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 30, 2016, 09:05:45 AM
Why so excited for him? 
I dunno.  I barely remember him from Season 1.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 30, 2016, 10:37:19 AM
Is he Coldhands, or something like that?  From the books
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on May 30, 2016, 10:38:16 AM
I dunno.  I barely remember him from Season 1.



Cali does like tall guys, but he looks like he smells
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 30, 2016, 06:08:05 PM
Why so excited for him? 

Been wanting to find out what happened to him for a long time!

Is he Coldhands, or something like that?  From the books

Yes, in the show he is.  Whether it's a show-only thing, or that will be the case in the books, too, who knows.  At one point Martin said Benjen was not Coldhands, but who knows whether he was full of shit about that, or not. 
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 31, 2016, 08:38:09 PM


Cali does like tall guys, but he looks like he smells
It's the rare guy on GoT who doesn't look like he smells.


Yes, in the show he is.  Whether it's a show-only thing, or that will be the case in the books, too, who knows.  At one point Martin said Benjen was not Coldhands, but who knows whether he was full of shit about that, or not. 
Some producer (or "show-runner" as they're called) confirmed that Benjen is Coldhands.  I don't know what GRRM actually does on the GoT set, or how much he's involved in script-writing.  My guess is, not that much and he's just hoping to see some tittays.
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 31, 2016, 09:15:56 PM
It's the rare guy on GoT who doesn't look like he smells.

Some producer (or "show-runner" as they're called) confirmed that Benjen is Coldhands.  I don't know what GRRM actually does on the GoT set, or how much he's involved in script-writing.  My guess is, not that much and he's just hoping to see some tittays.

Yeah, either one D or the other said in Inside the Episode Benjen is Coldhands, so on the show he definitely is.
Lots of book-readers thought the same was the case in the books, but a while back, some editor asked Martin, and he said, "no."
That's why I specified on the show he is.
It may be that Martin just didn't want to reveal it, so lied, or he has something else in mind.
I don't know if you've read the books, but it sure seems like Coldhands is Benjen.
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Post by: Misterfamous on May 31, 2016, 09:40:36 PM
I don't know if you've read the books, but it sure seems like Coldhands is Benjen.
I've not, but how many half-dead, lucid zombies have been rescued and pressed into action by the children of the forest ?
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Post by: Cali Cat on May 31, 2016, 10:00:18 PM
I've not, but how many half-dead, lucid zombies have been rescued and pressed into action by the children of the forest ?

Well, in the books, Coldhands is a mystery.  He shows up as Bran and co. are heading for the three to find the 3-eyed Raven, and he helps them get to the tree, but his face is never seen.  There is also no information in the books as to how he got the way he is.  We don't know anything beyond that, because the last published books end not long after Bran gets to the 3-eyed Raven.  As for Benjen, the last readers saw of him is the same as in the show...he went ranging North of the Wall, but he never came back.

Oh, and the stuff in the show about how the CotF created the first WW, or even that they created the first WW, has not happened in the books, yet.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on May 31, 2016, 11:32:04 PM
Well, in the books, Coldhands is a mystery.  He shows up as Bran and co. are heading for the three to find the 3-eyed Raven, and he helps them get to the tree, but his face is never seen.  There is also no information in the books as to how he got the way he is.  We don't know anything beyond that, because the last published books end not long after Bran gets to the 3-eyed Raven.  As for Benjen, the last readers saw of him is the same as in the show...he went ranging North of the Wall, but he never came back.

Oh, and the stuff in the show about how the CotF created the first WW, or even that they created the first WW, has not happened in the books, yet.
True dat.

Also in the books, if I remember right, the Night's King wasn't the first white walker but the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch who fell in love with a female white walker. Though that origin is just legend.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 01, 2016, 11:06:54 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/01/aerys-jons-parents-and-the-white-walkers-what-brans-visions-tell/


the visions slowed down.  lots of info here
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 01, 2016, 11:38:03 AM
http://me.ign.com/en/movies/119747/news/grrm-confirms-brienne-has-a-famous-ancestor?hl=1&noRedirect=1



spin-off?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 01, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
curious to see Dany's reaction to the slave deal. I'm sure Tyrion wriggles his way out, but i think his remaining stay in esteros is short
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2016, 01:23:30 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/01/aerys-jons-parents-and-the-white-walkers-what-brans-visions-tell/


the visions slowed down.  lots of info here

Thanks.  I'd been looking at screen shots someone did of all of them (if anyone wants the link, let me know).  I figured they went by so quickly, even slowed down, some stuff would go by too quickly for me to catch, but I caught more than I thought I would.  Of course, as it was airing, once Aerys started screaming "burn them all," I was too busy geeking out to care about much else (except for all the "pig shit.")  King's Landing is gonna fuckin' burn!!!

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Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
curious to see Dany's reaction to the slave deal. I'm sure Tyrion wriggles his way out, but i think his remaining stay in esteros is short

Well, I'm guessing (hoping) Dany's remaining stay in Essos is short.  Anyway, I'm far, far more interested to learn her reaction to Tyrion unchaining R&V.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Hey, Kipp...click on this link.  I figure you'd like the picture of your boyfriend.

http://watchersonthewall.com/photos-game-of-thrones-broken-man/#more-67060http://watchersonthewall.com/photos-game-of-thrones-broken-man/#more-67060

btw - I am looking more forward to this episode than just about any other this season.  I won't say why (and those who know why, please leave it as a surprise for those who don't), but...dbana dbana dbana
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 01, 2016, 03:17:44 PM
Well, I'm guessing (hoping) Dany's remaining stay in Essos is short.  Anyway, I'm far, far more interested to learn her reaction to Tyrion unchaining R&V.
lol. esteros. yeah, essos.

i dunno, i think she'll understand about the dragons. they were gonna die. if anything, she might think he was pretty ballsy for approaching them.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2016, 03:28:33 PM
lol. esteros. yeah, essos.

i dunno, i think she'll understand about the dragons. they were gonna die. if anything, she might think he was pretty ballsy for approaching them.

I wasn't implying I necessarily think she'll be angry about it.  I was thinking more along the lines of...holy shit...a stranger went down to where they were kept, unchained them, and lived to tell about it.  I also think she has other things to concern herself with, like the fact all her ships were burned.  Given there hasn't been a SotH attack since Tyrion struck the deal, the deal Tyrion struck with the Slavers may not turn out to be as big of a deal to her as you may think.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 01, 2016, 03:30:50 PM
dunno. she's got a pretty big hang up with slavery. it's kind of her thing. she delayed her trip across the narrow sea to make sure the slavers didn't take over again, didn't she?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 01, 2016, 03:35:28 PM
dunno. she's got a pretty big hang up with slavery. it's kind of her thing. she delayed her trip across the narrow sea to make sure the slavers didn't take over again, didn't she?

Do you really think she's going to keep doing that, though?
Yeah, it is a big hang-up for her, but she's finally got her Khalasar, and seems to be more focused than she's ever been on getting to Westeros.  Meereen is, by far, the biggest city in Slaver's Bay, and the deal is such that slavery is over there, forever.  They have a plan in place to phase out slavery in the other two cities.   I'm not saying she'll just say, oh, no biggie, but I don't think it will be nearly as big of a deal to her as you seem to think.   
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 02, 2016, 08:15:31 AM
This sort of time-travel (bootstrap) is always a difficult thing to do in fiction.  It's made all the more difficult, because pre-warg Bran was unaware of Hodor's condition and because Hodor himself leads such a miserable existence. 

Marvel hasn't used it yet in the movies, as far as I know.  In the comics, probably every other issue featured some form of time-travel.  There was even one villain, Kang, who traveled from various points in his existence (in different forms) over thousands of years, to battle the Avengers.

Superman's was pretty stupid, yeah.  Just by changing the rotation of the planet for a bit, he causes time to reverse ?  Even in 1978, I'm pretty sure we knew that some planets rotated the opposite direction, and didn't cause earthquakes to happen the other way...

Duhhh, X-Men: Days of Future Past is ALL TIME TRAVEL.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 02, 2016, 12:52:10 PM
Duhhh, X-Men: Days of Future Past is ALL TIME TRAVEL.
A little slicker, I'll grant you.  But it's still a ridiculous concept.  I'm still trying to figure out why the future characters decide to send Wolverine back to 1973, when all this complicated plot garbage goes down, and the risk of the Sentinels program is so dangerous.  Had they merely sent Wolverine back 10+ years earlier, when the Sentinels don't exist, even on paper -- to kill the inventor, Trask, seems like it would've made more sense.  Like the idea that the Terminators in the future keep trying to send Terminators back to a progressively later past, when it's harder to kill teenage and then adult John Connor; just keep sending them to kill Linda Hamilton in 1984.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 05, 2016, 03:28:54 PM
Do we see the Hound tonight?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 05, 2016, 03:54:00 PM
~~~DON'T LOOK AT BELOW PICTURE (OR CORRESPONDING TEXT) IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED~~~


Do we see the Hound tonight?

Given the title of the episode,

(http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/all-signs-point-to-yes.jpg)

Also, Ian Fucking McShane.

I'm holding out hope for one...just one..."Westerosi Cocksucker!" grin1
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 05, 2016, 04:19:22 PM
Is that fl's magic 8 ball?
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 05, 2016, 04:20:21 PM
Episode titles have had many meanings, who else is a broken man?  Snow?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 05, 2016, 04:56:45 PM
Is that fl's magic 8 ball?

I didn't know he had one, but, no.

Episode titles have had many meanings, who else is a broken man?  Snow?

True, and I think it does refer to more than one character.
It could, imo, certainly apply to Jon.  It could easily apply to Theon.  It could also, at least in some ways, refer to Jaime.  Oh, and there's Edmure, too.  He didn't look to be in very good shape in the last episode.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 05, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
Is that fl's magic 8 ball?

I just noticed where F&L used "magic 8 ball" in the title to one of his threads...
Now I understand the reference.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 05, 2016, 07:45:23 PM
I just noticed where F&L used "magic 8 ball" in the title to one of his threads...
Now I understand the reference.



He uses it all the time on people, especially mister famous
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 05, 2016, 08:06:08 PM
(http://67.media.tumblr.com/38ede12e91ebc83ce0189f4bcf1095a8/tumblr_o7v5vsLDOF1rey868o1_500.gif)
It's time for a new episode !


Btw- Hound's alive !
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 05, 2016, 08:06:43 PM
Oh good. The hound!

If there is a trial by fire, might the brothers face off?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 05, 2016, 08:07:17 PM
Oh fuck. And that's Swearengen
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 05, 2016, 08:08:11 PM
We knew he was coming, but I forgot all about it
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 05, 2016, 08:53:13 PM
Argh. Forget it
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 05, 2016, 08:55:38 PM
I didn't think HBO / Game of Thrones would introduce a character with Ian McShane as the actor, only to kill him off in the same episode.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 05, 2016, 08:58:04 PM
Yep. So much for that
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 05, 2016, 09:00:06 PM
At least Bronn and the Hound are back
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 05, 2016, 10:43:40 PM
McShane said from the outset he was a one-off character.

Great cold-open...and I love Lyanna Mormont!!!
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 06, 2016, 12:00:36 AM
McShane said from the outset he was a one-off character.
I was... underwhelmed.  The take-away is: The Hound is back.  Kinda.

Quote
Great cold-open...and I love Lyanna Mormont!!!
Those were nice. 
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 06, 2016, 12:15:41 AM
I was... underwhelmed.  The take-away is: The Hound is back.  Kinda.
Those were nice. 

I think it's awesome the show can get people like that for just one episode.
There were lots of other things I really enjoyed, too.
I'm a push-over for Wun-Wun, so anytime I see him, I'm happy.
I thought the scenes between Margaery and Olenna and Olenna and Cersei were excellent.
I, of course, loved seeing Bronn, again, and while I've never liked other Tully's really (not Catelyn, and not Edmure), I love the Blackfish, and enjoyed his scene with Jaime.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 06, 2016, 07:59:18 AM
i had a feeling the Queen was acting, I feel she can be worse than Cersei.



Lyanna Mormont was AWESOME: 5 minutes of screentime, already a better ruler than Dany
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 06, 2016, 12:10:16 PM
The Hound is back, he's very angry, and he has a large axe.  What's not to love about that?  Can flying heads be far behind?
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 06, 2016, 02:02:25 PM
i had a feeling the Queen was acting, I feel she can be worse than Cersei.
Needs to show more cleavage, eh ?



Quote
Lyanna Mormont was AWESOME: 5 minutes of screentime, already a better ruler than Dany
Dany's just gotten stale.  She got that way 2 seasons ago, when she got more hung up on what a bunch of slaves were crying about over her quest to conquer Westeros.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 06, 2016, 02:30:22 PM
The Hound is back, he's very angry, and he has a large axe.  What's not to love about that?  Can flying heads be far behind?
hes a man on a mission.

A mission from God(s)

Hound axe SMASH
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 08, 2016, 11:24:21 AM
The GoT nerds are a great bunch...anyone heard of Cleganebowl?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 08, 2016, 11:28:05 AM
The GoT nerds are a great bunch...anyone heard of Cleganebowl?
lol. see my post 6 minutes into the episode at 9:06 on 6/5

didn't take long
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 08, 2016, 11:43:18 AM
lol. see my post 6 minutes into the episode at 9:06 on 6/5

didn't take long

Ah ha, there it is.  I saw the term today and thought what a wonderful world, this world of geeky fandom.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 08, 2016, 11:48:53 AM
i was unaware of the term

i love the show, but i don't geek out to it to the extent of others. i haven't even finished the books.

i get it, though
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 08, 2016, 01:11:43 PM
The GoT nerds are a great bunch...anyone heard of Cleganebowl?

GET HYPE!!!
If you're just learning hearing about Cleganebowl, you aren't familiar with "Get Hype," but it's kind of a huge thing in the hardcore fandom (put cleganbowl into google...you'll find lots of "get hype.")
It's even spawned new Westerosi family mottos...

What is HYPE may never die.
Ours is the HYPE.
HYPE is coming.

It's silly and fun.
Anyway, Kipp and I were talking about it several pages back.
I even posted my favorite video about it, although I'm not scrolling back through all those pages to find it (but I'll repost it below).




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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 08, 2016, 06:31:39 PM
How many of those kids will die from mosquitos bites?
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 09, 2016, 07:34:45 AM
Quote
If you're just learning hearing about Cleganebowl, you aren't familiar with "Get Hype,"

I'm just seeing this stuff now.  Awesome.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xf5fbgofE2Q/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 09, 2016, 07:49:26 AM
it seemed like they have been planning this for some time, but I'm not sure how the show (maybe the books) can even avoid it at this point. too much demand.

it just makes sense to have it at Cersei's trial. She already said she would have a trial by combat with the Mountain as her sword. The Hound is pissed that they just slaughtered his churchy friends, especially the septum that saw him for more than what he was. He wants vengeance against both the crown and his brother, the 7 don't have anyone to go up against the Mountain, and it only makes sense for him to take up their cause, even if he isn't a true follower of the faith
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 09, 2016, 11:27:32 AM
it seemed like they have been planning this for some time, but I'm not sure how the show (maybe the books) can even avoid it at this point. too much demand.

it just makes sense to have it at Cersei's trial. She already said she would have a trial by combat with the Mountain as her sword. The Hound is pissed that they just slaughtered his churchy friends, especially the septum that saw him for more than what he was. He wants vengeance against both the crown and his brother, the 7 don't have anyone to go up against the Mountain, and it only makes sense for him to take up their cause, even if he isn't a true follower of the faith
The Brotherhood Without Banners killed that group, not the Lannisters/crown.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 09, 2016, 11:28:08 AM
oooooh.

yeah
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 09, 2016, 02:22:55 PM
Oh good. The hound!

If there is a trial by fire, might the brothers face off?
face off, too funny.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 09, 2016, 02:50:19 PM
The Brotherhood Without Banners killed that group, not the Lannisters/crown.

I think either the 3 from the Brotherhood we saw were not responsible for the massacre, or what's left of the real Brotherhood is still out there, somewhere, and the guys we saw are no longer with the Brotherhood. 

***book info below, just in case someone doesn't want to know about stuff from the books***

Even with the Brotherhood doing Lady Stoneheart's bidding, they aren't massacring groups of random innocents.  They're killing any Frey or Lannister they can find, even if they weren't involved in the Red Wedding, but not innocents.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 09, 2016, 03:24:43 PM
Cali, whatever became of Beric Dondarrion ?  I don't read the books, but I assumed like the Hound, that GRRM killed him off or left him MIA.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 09, 2016, 03:30:23 PM
Cali, whatever became of Beric Dondarrion ?  I don't read the books, but I assumed like the Hound, that GRRM killed him off or left him MIA.

If you'd like, I'll get into more details, but it could spoil something that may, or may not (I'm hoping not), happen on the show, but unless you say you want to know, I'll only say...

He's dead.  It was his own choice.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 09, 2016, 03:34:42 PM
If you'd like, I'll get into more details, but it could spoil something that may, or may not (I'm hoping not), happen on the show, but unless you say you want to know, I'll only say...

He's dead.  It was his own choice.

Something something with Lady Stoneheart?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 09, 2016, 03:40:37 PM
Something something with Lady Stoneheart?

Yep...although, fortunately, not sumpin' sumpin'.
I think Martin stops short of necrophilia.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 09, 2016, 03:43:56 PM
If you'd like, I'll get into more details, but it could spoil something that may, or may not (I'm hoping not), happen on the show, but unless you say you want to know, I'll only say...

He's dead.  It was his own choice.
Oh, but nothing that's happened in the HBO version (yet), right ?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 09, 2016, 03:45:22 PM
Oh, but nothing that's happened in the HBO version (yet), right ?

Right.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 11, 2016, 01:20:50 PM
Yep...although, fortunately, not sumpin' sumpin'.
I think Martin stops short of necrophilia.



Can needle be had as a sex toy?  Or maybe just stick it up the waif's _____
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2016, 02:32:57 PM
I'm not aware of GoT sex toys, although I do know the folks who run one of the big websites engage in some really fuckin' weird GoT online sex...stuff. 

As for the Waif, I can't wait to see that bitch die,
And I'd be just fine with it happening via Needle getting stuck up the Waif's _______.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 11, 2016, 02:44:11 PM


Can needle be had as a sex toy?  Or maybe just stick it up the waif's _____
Well, there are the GoT beers (presumably the empty bottles):

(http://d.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/620x350/poster/2014/11/3038032-poster-p-1-forget-dornish-wine-hbo-unveils-the-fifth-game-of-thrones-beer.jpg)

Though at 750 mL, I don't even want to speculate really on how they could be used.  Sol digs on insertion and assplay though...

I'm not aware of GoT sex toys, although I do know the folks who run one of the big websites engage in some really fuckin' weird GoT online sex...stuff. 

As for the Waif, I can't wait to see that bitch die,
And I'd be just fine with it happening via Needle getting stuck up the Waif's _______.
Here you go, Cali:

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/1522980/is-game-of-thrones-bringing-back-another-long-gone-character-heres-what-we-know

Let your imagination run wild.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2016, 02:52:08 PM
roll1

Ah well, at least I, personally, find the "Syrio isn't really dead" stuff far more tolerable than the "Stannis isn't really dead" crap.
Then again, I loved Syrio, and I couldn't stand Stannis.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 11, 2016, 02:58:21 PM
roll1

Ah well, at least I, personally, find the "Syrio isn't really dead" stuff far more tolerable than the "Stannis isn't really dead" crap.
Then again, I loved Syrio, and I couldn't stand Stannis.
At least Stannis was a major character.  If he or Catelyn Stark suddenly show up as a zombie, it would be a major game-changer.  Syrio was so fleeting and ridiculous, that it almost makes sense he's escaped death to make it into a later chapter...
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2016, 03:17:35 PM
At least Stannis was a major character.  If he or Catelyn Stark suddenly show up as a zombie, it would be a major game-changer.  Syrio was so fleeting and ridiculous, that it almost makes sense he's escaped death to make it into a later chapter...

The only reason I think it's possible, even for a second, he could not really be dead is because of his connection with Braavos.  If he's a Faceless Man, he could have escaped Meryn, changed his face to Jaqen, gotten himself into a black cell, then taken and put in a the cage to go to the Wall.

The only people who think Stannis could come back are insufferable Stannis fanbois, and those don't think Brienne killed him 'cause, well, I really don't fucking know.  They're convinced he is the rightful King of Westeros, blah, blah, blah, and were screaming the show just ruined him.  As far as Catelyn coming back, imo, that would just be...lame.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 11, 2016, 03:24:00 PM
Well, there are the GoT beers (presumably the empty bottles):

(http://d.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/620x350/poster/2014/11/3038032-poster-p-1-forget-dornish-wine-hbo-unveils-the-fifth-game-of-thrones-beer.jpg)

Though at 750 mL, I don't even want to speculate really on how they could be used.  Sol digs on insertion and assplay though...
Here you go, Cali:

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/1522980/is-game-of-thrones-bringing-back-another-long-gone-character-heres-what-we-know

Let your imagination run wild.
yeah, they gotta be bombers to show off the label
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2016, 03:26:08 PM
yeah, they gotta be bombers to show off the label

I'm not a beer person, but I know a lot of folks who have tried the various Ommegang GoT beers, and they loved them.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 11, 2016, 03:26:36 PM
The only reason I think it's possible, even for a second, he could not really be dead is because of his connection with Braavos.  If he's a Faceless Man, he could have escaped Meryn, changed his face to Jaqen, gotten himself into a black cell, then taken and put in a the cage to go to the Wall.

The only people who think Stannis could come back are insufferable Stannis fanbois, and those don't think Brienne killed him 'cause, well, I really don't fucking know.  They're convinced he is the rightful King of Westeros, blah, blah, blah, and were screaming the show just ruined him.  As far as Catelyn coming back, imo, that would just be...lame.
i would guess that Brienne was thorough
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 11, 2016, 03:27:57 PM
I'm not a beer person, but I know a lot of folks who have tried the various Ommegang GoT beers, and they loved them.
not surprised. It's s fine brewery

Their Hennepin has been a go-to for me for a number of years now
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 11, 2016, 03:29:57 PM
In fact, I'd go as far to say as that beer introduced the country to Saisons, and a few breweries are now experimenting with them
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 11, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
i would guess that Brienne was thorough

Yeah, there's no question, absolutely none, at least not is my mind, Stannis is d-e-a-d dead, and he's gonna stay that way.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 11, 2016, 10:01:36 PM
...

Though at 750 mL, I don't even want to speculate really on how they could be used.  Sol digs on insertion and assplay though...


The only thing I dig about that is when it happens to you, it seems to sate your need to try to drag me into your tranny drag queen world for a few weeks.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 12, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
I want violence tonight, and I'm sure we will get a ton
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 12, 2016, 02:07:25 PM
If the preview for this week they showed at the end of last week is any indication, there will be plenty.

If you haven't seen it, I'll post it for you.

I'd guess several Sparrows will die, possibly including Lancel, at the hands of Frankenmountain, Arya will kill The Waif (I so want that bitch to die), and the Hound will take out at least one person, if not more.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 12, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
All that sounds good
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 12, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
T-minus 5 minutes and counting...


Enjoy the episode!
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 13, 2016, 09:18:11 AM
Good episode.  Funny how I was asking about Beric Dondarrian and then he shows up.  Unless you were fucking with me...
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 13, 2016, 09:21:19 AM
it was good, but I kinda wanted to see Arya get her revenge
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 13, 2016, 09:40:16 AM
it was good, but I kinda wanted to see Arya get her revenge
She did !  Or did you mean, you wanted to see the actual killing stroke ?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 13, 2016, 10:04:51 AM
the face was nice, but to be expected.

they did a good job of making us want that chick to suffer. then we miss out on the god stuff. whats GoT without blood and vengeance?
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 13, 2016, 10:22:48 AM
the face was nice, but to be expected.

they did a good job of making us want that chick to suffer. then we miss out on the god stuff. whats GoT without blood and vengeance?
Aww, c'mon- we got the Hound killing a buncha guys.  People have a soft spot for Arya though.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 13, 2016, 10:34:54 AM
Aww, c'mon- we got the Hound killing a buncha guys.  People have a soft spot for Arya though.
if i had a hard spot, i'd be gene
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 13, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
if i had a hard spot, i'd be gene
Kinky.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 13, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
Arya is okay. i don't love her, nor do i hate her. mostly i just couldn't stand the waif, in the same way that i dislike the sparrows
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 13, 2016, 10:44:08 AM
Disappointed with the Blackfish
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 13, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
*Africanwesterosifish
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Post by: Scuzz on June 13, 2016, 10:58:31 AM
Dondarion being around pretty much puts an end to the return of Catelyn.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 13, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
*Africanwesterosifish

Awesome

#blackfishmatters
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 13, 2016, 12:06:04 PM
it was good, but I kinda wanted to see Arya get her revenge

I liked how they did it.  It surprised me when she slashed out the candle, and then the realization that she would kick ass in the dark because of her blind training.

What I don't get is, why was the Jesus'y guy OK with it?  Why did he let her go?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 13, 2016, 12:11:13 PM
he had a sly little smirk, like this is what he was hoping for the whole time. that some people are meant to be nobody, and others are meant to truly be somebody. in the end, a many faced god would understand this to be a given, as it has many faces after all.

i think he was happy that she was no longer in the middle of the road, and no matter what she chose, the true goal was for her to grab it with both hands.


or something.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 13, 2016, 12:12:59 PM
plus, he probably knew what she was from the get go with their history. she was a fighter for the side of what was right, not an assassin who is bereft of emotion

his training was going to help her no matter what, and he knew that
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 13, 2016, 01:18:35 PM
Good episode.  Funny how I was asking about Beric Dondarrian and then he shows up.  Unless you were fucking with me...

No, I wasn't fucking with you...this time.

if i had a hard spot, i'd be gene

rofl

Nah, she's too old.

I loved the nod back to Syrio when it was time for Arya to kill the Waif.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 13, 2016, 01:31:14 PM
Dondarion being around pretty much puts an end to the return of Catelyn.

Yes.  Thank gawd.  Now maybe all those LSH fanatics will finally shut the fuck up about her.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 08:11:20 PM
FIRE!
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 08:44:23 PM
Great action, but I never figure how they know who is on their side. You don't really have time to check any type of symbols or armor.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 09:01:02 PM
I was hoping for an ending true to his banner, but that'll do.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 19, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
RIP Wun Wun, but a very satisfying conclusion.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 10:28:15 PM
Sansa is stepping up
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 19, 2016, 10:33:48 PM
RIP Wun Wun, but a very satisfying conclusion.

Yeah, I figured we'd lose Wun-Wun, but I held out hope he'd survive.
I love how they ended it, and I found it perfect Ramsay was eaten by his dogs.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 19, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Fucking awesome episode, overall!
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 10:35:21 PM
Lotta action
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 10:35:54 PM
Onion knight is plotting it seems. That stag is eating him up

He wants his shot, but hasn't figured out how to take it

And she's just plain given up.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 19, 2016, 10:36:19 PM
Very good episode. Not quite Hardhome, but damn close.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 19, 2016, 10:37:18 PM
Onion knight is plotting it seems. That stag is eating him up
Judging by the previews, he's gonna ask Jon to sentence her to death. The question is, will Jon do it?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 10:38:06 PM
Judging by the previews, he's gonna ask Jon to sentence her to death. The question is, will Jon do it?
it would kind of be a dick move considering.

But I have no love for her
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 19, 2016, 10:40:28 PM
it would kind of be a dick move considering.

But I have no love for her
Me neither. But is it a dick move on his part?  Remember, she told him she didn't bring him back, the Lord of light did. I could see Jon using her own words against her there.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 10:42:06 PM
She didn't need to be the conduit, did she? She could have have disobeyed, or blocked out the call
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 19, 2016, 10:43:19 PM
She didn't need to be the conduit, did she? She could have have disobeyed
Based on what she said, LoL acted through her, but could have done it through anyone.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 19, 2016, 10:43:26 PM
Also, it was the onion knight that begged her to try to begin with.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 19, 2016, 10:48:24 PM
Onion knight is plotting it seems. That stag is eating him up

He wants his shot, but hasn't figured out how to take it

And she's just plain given up.
Melisandre is a baddie.  She's got to go.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 19, 2016, 10:52:47 PM
Very good episode. Not quite Hardhome, but damn close.

I think the main difference between the two episode is we didn't see Hardhome coming.
No, we don't know what happens in this battle in the books, either, but in the books, Hardhome happened totally off-page.
We had no idea what was really going to happen, so it took everyone by surprise.
Going into this episode, we knew it was going to be huge, since it was an episode 9, we had an idea of the brilliance (imo) we could get given Sapochnik was at the helm, and we knew, more or less, the outcome...at least I don't think there was much doubt the Starks would retake Winterfell.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 19, 2016, 10:53:37 PM
Also, it was the onion knight that begged her to try to begin with.

That was before he knew she was responsible for Shireen's death.
That was before he knew the bitch had her burned alive.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 20, 2016, 12:11:40 AM
Why didn't anyone teach the Stark boys to run zig-zag?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
That was before he knew she was responsible for Shireen's death.
That was before he knew the bitch had her burned alive.
see, I thought he had that figured out. The stag just brought it all into perspective
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 01:24:47 AM
Why didn't anyone teach the Stark boys to run zig-zag?
no gators up there
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 20, 2016, 11:45:32 AM
see, I thought he had that figured out. The stag just brought it all into perspective

He knew she was dead, sure, but he didn't know how.
You could see him putting the pieces together as he stood at the remnants of the pyre.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 20, 2016, 12:36:41 PM
So I watched the battle on youtube this morning. Good to see Ramsey get his due. The battle was well done but was kinda stupid what with Jon trying to commit suicide and the wall of bodies thing.

And the Knights of the Vale looked like a bad ass mounted army compared to the rest. The wall of shields was kinda cool, but they seemed to get into place pretty damn fast.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
so he thought it happened in the battle?

Man, lookin back right before the battle, it just seemed to me he plead with Stannis because he was sniffing this out as a distinct possibility. That he didn't think she'd make it that long.

I could see how his face could be determined as the gears turning and putting it all together. I could also see it as a "god damn it, I fucking knew it. now he had hard proof, and it was a punch in the gut

But I didn't read it, so you could have read something directly that I only translated through expressions and acting
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 20, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
Regarding the battle scenes, I think they did a good job showing the confusion/quickness of battles back then
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 01:23:44 PM
Yeah, I have no clue how you know who to kill in those situations. Ideally you wanna eye up your opponent, but when you hear loud footsteps and a yell behind you, the safe thing is to probably swing blindly before you even know who the advance is intended for
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 01:24:53 PM
Id love to know on average the amount percentage friendlies killed were during those kind of battles.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 20, 2016, 02:56:23 PM
so he thought it happened in the battle?

Man, lookin back right before the battle, it just seemed to me he plead with Stannis because he was sniffing this out as a distinct possibility. That he didn't think she'd make it that long.

I could see how his face could be determined as the gears turning and putting it all together. I could also see it as a "god damn it, I fucking knew it. now he had hard proof, and it was a punch in the gut

But I didn't read it, so you could have read something directly that I only translated through expressions and acting

It hasn't happened in the books, yet.
Sure, he definitely had some trepidation about leaving when Stannis told him to, but I don't think he ever thought Stannis would allow Melisandre to burn Shireen.
As for how he thought Shireen died, who knows.  All we know he knew was that she died, and that's based on the look Melisandre gave him when he asked about Shireen back at the end of season 5, when Melisandre returned to Castle Black.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 20, 2016, 03:17:25 PM
Regarding the battle scenes, I think they did a good job showing the confusion/quickness of battles back then
Back when ?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 20, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
Back when ?
I think he means medieval age, which is the basis for GoT.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 20, 2016, 04:52:42 PM
I think he means medieval age, which is the basis for GoT.

Yeah, Martin drew inspiration from the medieval period, but I think calling it the basis is putting it too strongly.
Then again, I've been in an ongoing argument with people who insist on calling the books "historical fiction," so I may be being overly picky about word-choice.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 20, 2016, 05:45:54 PM
Yeah, Martin drew inspiration from the medieval period, but I think calling it the basis is putting it too strongly.
Then again, I've been in an ongoing argument with people who insist on calling the books "historical fiction," so I may be being overly picky about word-choice.

Really, people call it "historical fiction". Wow, some people are idiots.

So I saw the opening scene with Dany taking care of the slaver problem. That was awesome. Nice dragon CGI.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 07:10:30 PM
Well, as far as combat, they do use a fair amount of historically accurate weaponry (although all of those styles may not have squared off against one another). Obviously the story isn't anything real, but the battle styles might not be terribly far from the truth (minus glowing boom juice). A sickle might have even been used by farmers to guard their homes, but they also took some liberties with the arakh. That's the least likely used of those, but there have been variations over the centuries.
However, I noticed the book describes them as scythe-sword hybrids, not sickle. Sounds more like Kama blades. Those existed. They're Asian, but they existed. Either way, both are probably good for peeking around a shield.

Still, all of those short swords, long swords, great swords, daggers, broadswords, spears, axes, hammers, bows, maces, morning stars, flails, etc would have been used at some point, not to mention the seige weaponry.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 07:17:16 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31tyS5csTpL.jpg)

Kamas

Likely, this is closer to what Martin described for the Dothraki
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 20, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
Yeah, Martin drew inspiration from the medieval period, but I think calling it the basis is putting it too strongly.
Then again, I've been in an ongoing argument with people who insist on calling the books "historical fiction," so I may be being overly picky about word-choice.
Well, it was the basis for the type of fighting you see.

And anyone calling GoT historical fiction is fucking retarded.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 20, 2016, 08:18:23 PM
Well, it was the basis for the type of fighting you see.

And anyone calling GoT historical fiction is fucking retarded.
Careful.  They're probably the same people who collect swords, halberds and realistic n|nja weapons...
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 08:32:06 PM
Careful.  They're probably the same people who collect swords, halberds and realistic n|nja weapons...
lol. What else are you supposed to have in your trunk


Nice job editing that certain word which brings up an annoying emoji
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 20, 2016, 08:38:45 PM
lol. What else are you supposed to have in your trunk
For those people, meth-making equipment is probably also popular.


Quote
Nice job editing that certain word which brings up an annoying emoji
And yet, I forget every time and have to go back to fix it.  ::)
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 20, 2016, 08:41:20 PM
That emoji needs to go
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 20, 2016, 09:12:46 PM
Really, people call it "historical fiction". Wow, some people are idiots.

So I saw the opening scene with Dany taking care of the slaver problem. That was awesome. Nice dragon CGI.

Not only do they call it historical fiction, and attempt to argue it until they're blue in the face, to make matters worse, they use their contention it's historical fiction as the basis for other arguments.  It's pretty fucking unreal.

Yeah, I admit it, I literally cheered when I saw Viserion and Rhaegal joining Drogon.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 21, 2016, 07:51:24 AM
Yeah, Martin drew inspiration from the medieval period, but I think calling it the basis is putting it too strongly.
Then again, I've been in an ongoing argument with people who insist on calling the books "historical fiction," so I may be being overly picky about word-choice.



now that's comedy
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Post by: Scuzz on June 21, 2016, 10:57:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Rn6KKnS.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 21, 2016, 11:50:02 AM
For those of you interested in the specific battle used as inspiration for this episode, much of it was based on Hannibal -vs- The Romans at the Battle of Cannae (216 BCE), specifically the way the Boltons hemmed in the Stark forces with those shields and the resulting crush (which, btw, was...holy shit.  I thought they did an extraordinary job filming that part.)
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 21, 2016, 02:12:39 PM
For those of you interested in the specific battle used as inspiration for this episode, much of it was based on Hannibal -vs- The Romans at the Battle of Cannae (216 BCE), specifically the way the Boltons hemmed in the Stark forces with those shields and the resulting crush (which, btw, was...holy chit.  I thought they did an extraordinary job filming that part.)




Worse loss in Roman history, to the date
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 21, 2016, 05:15:11 PM
You know, Scuzz, I really should have just given you my HBOGo password, and you could have watched the season along with the rest of us.
Sorry I'm just bringing it up now...with the season almost over.  :(
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Post by: Scuzz on June 21, 2016, 05:22:00 PM
You know, Scuzz, I really should have just given you my HBOGo password, and you could have watched the season along with the rest of us.
Sorry I'm just bringing it up now...with the season almost over.  :(

bassturd.....


Well since I have discovered that 99% of it is on youtube I have been watching it there on Mondays. 
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 23, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
Not only do they call it historical fiction, and attempt to argue it until they're blue in the face, to make matters worse, they use their contention it's historical fiction as the basis for other arguments.  It's pretty fucking unreal.

Yeah, I admit it, I literally cheered when I saw Viserion and Rhaegal joining Drogon.

Lol, really?

Can you ask them which historical period White Walkers and Dragons are from? I can't seem to remember.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 23, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
whatever, sol. I'll give you white walkers, but there were dragons in all of the old stories. dragons would take princesses, and then princes would have to get them back.

look, they were very old books. many different people ALL wrote of these occurrences. must be true. i have faith in it no matter what the facts say. many different individuals wrote it down a long time ago. they couldn't have all collaborated. you can't prove otherwise.

checkmate.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 23, 2016, 01:52:12 PM
dunno what prompted that.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 23, 2016, 02:21:40 PM
Lol, really?

Can you ask them which historical period White Walkers and Dragons are from? I can't seem to remember.

Ah, well, you see, that's the fantasy element, so that's ok.
However, given it's historical fiction, anything else which is not historically accurate is hugely problematic.  roll1

On another note, in case you didn't know, it's official, we'll finally be seeing The Winds of Winter this Sunday.
teehee
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 24, 2016, 08:00:05 AM
dunno what prompted that.
brain aneurysm?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 24, 2016, 08:24:28 AM
i don't think so, but its a little foggy.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 25, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
(http://iambored.pro/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/iambored-pro-sansa-stark-and-boy-george-lookalike2.jpg)

okay, i alwas knew why she looked a little off for me, and then I saw this. goddamn it, she really is a ringer for Boy George.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 25, 2016, 07:13:10 PM
(http://fotos.caras.uol.com.br/media/images/large/2014/05/26/img-610702-boy-george-e-sophia-turner20140526101401112080.jpg)
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 25, 2016, 07:20:13 PM
(http://fotos.caras.uol.com.br/media/images/large/2014/05/26/img-610702-boy-george-e-sophia-turner20140526101401112080.jpg)
LOL. 

"Do you really want to hurt me?"

--Cali Cat  cali1
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 26, 2016, 08:47:33 AM
(http://iambored.pro/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/iambored-pro-sansa-stark-and-boy-george-lookalike2.jpg)

okay, i alwas knew why she looked a little off for me, and then I saw this. goddamn it, she really is a ringer for Boy George.

LOL, now Cali will be hearing Karma Chameleon in her head every time she sees Sansa.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 12:48:26 PM
No, not really.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 12:57:38 PM
I will. I have no doubt that I will. It'll be a "Karma Chameleon/I'll Tumble For Ya/Do You Really Want to Hurt Me/Crying Game medley on repeat, and I damn well better keep only soft objects within my reach
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 01:44:44 PM
That's your problem, not mine.

Now, if you could please stop talking about Boy George and mentioning Culture Club songs, I'd really appreciate it.
It's about to set me off the deep end, and I've only recently stepped back from the edge of the abyss.

Thanks.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 26, 2016, 02:25:25 PM
That's your problem, not mine.

Now, if you could please stop talking about Boy George and mentioning Culture Club songs, I'd really appreciate it.
It's about to set me off the deep end, and I've only recently stepped back from the edge of the abyss.

Thanks.
But Cali, did you see this:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/25/game-thrones-showrunner-db-weiss-explains-sansa-revenge-music-choice (http://ow.ly/q5Fm301EjRn)

?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 02:45:52 PM
I'm not clicking on that shit.

It's probably either a picture of Pops, or some Culture Club whatever.
If it's the latter...

Go. Fuck. Yourself.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 26, 2016, 02:55:17 PM
I'm not clicking on that shit.

It's probably either a picture of Pops, or some Culture Club whatever.
If it's the latter...

Go. Fuck. Yourself.
What ?  I would never ! 
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 03:05:21 PM
That's your problem, not mine.

Now, if you could please stop talking about Boy George and mentioning Culture Club songs, I'd really appreciate it.
It's about to set me off the deep end, and I've only recently stepped back from the edge of the abyss.

Thanks.
misery loves company
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 03:09:18 PM
What ?  I would never ! 

Hahaha.

Sorry for being so on edge.
I really don't wanna go into it, and I know it seems random and probably melodramatic as hell, but, please, no more Boy George or Culture Club stuff, at least not on this thread.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
misery loves company

Fuck off.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 03:11:39 PM
Huh. Who woulda thought that that guy could really cross the line for someone beyond just being an annoyance.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 03:16:12 PM
Are you about fucking finished?
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 03:17:33 PM
Jesus.

Ok, I tried to be as vague as possible for your sake.

I'm perfectly happy dropping it completely
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 03:21:59 PM
Thank you.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 26, 2016, 03:25:04 PM
Hahaha.

Sorry for being so on edge.
I really don't wanna go into it, and I know it seems random and probably melodramatic as hell, but, please, no more Boy George or Culture Club stuff, at least not on this thread.
I promise on Kipp's life that it isn't.  It's cool if you don't want to read it. 

Only 4.5 hours left !
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 03:32:10 PM
I promise on Kipp's life that it isn't.  It's cool if you don't want to read it. 

Only 4.5 hours left !

Maybe I'll check it out later.

Yep...not too long, now.
I can't believe it's already the last episode of the season.
It's gone by too quickly.  stomp1

Tonight's episode will be the longest, yet...
68 minutes, I believe.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 26, 2016, 05:02:56 PM
Maybe I'll check it out later.

Yep...not too long, now.
I can't believe it's already the last episode of the season.
It's gone by too quickly.  stomp1

Tonight's episode will be the longest, yet...
68 minutes, I believe.
Actually, it's.... 69 ;)
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 05:09:43 PM
Actually, it's.... 69 ;)

I know it was, but then I read it got changed to 68, and had to laugh at all the people going, "but where did that one minute go???"
Either way, it's still the longest GoT episode to date.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 05:19:28 PM
What's 68? Like blowin a snowman?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 05:37:12 PM
Well, Winter is coming...
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 05:43:31 PM
Well, Winter is coming...
it was comin like hell at the end of last season. What the hell is going on? Are the walkers really looking at the wall sayin "aw darn it!"

I either missed something, or forgot. I gotta watch this season again in binge form. I always do that after they're done.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 05:56:26 PM
it was comin like hell at the end of last season. What the hell is going on? Are the walkers really looking at the wall sayin "aw darn it!"

I either missed something, or forgot. I gotta watch this season again in binge form. I always do that after they're done.

I can't remember what they've said on the show about the WW's and moving south, so I don't want to post what I was about to, 'cause it may be information that's only in the books.
Did you watch the preview for this week's episode?

I always do a binge rewatch the whole season, once a season is over, too.
It helps me put certain things together I may have missed on first watch, or missed with a week being between episodes.

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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 05:58:04 PM
Not only do I binge a season after its done, but starting 2 months before a new season, I watch them all again in order.

I have not seen the previews for tonight.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 06:02:44 PM
Ah, ok...I won't say anything about it, then.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 26, 2016, 06:33:56 PM
Can't wait
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 06:38:51 PM
Me, either, Chocolate.

Less than 90 minutes.  dbana

(I really love this guy Sapochnik (the director).  I hope they get him, again, for the future seasons!!!)
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 26, 2016, 06:50:03 PM
I hope there's another GRRM cameo.  The last one was way too brief

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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 07:18:00 PM
I've been trying not to think about what we may or may not see this episode, but one thing I'm sure we'll see, 'cause they showed the first part earlier in the season, has me bouncing off the walls!!!
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 26, 2016, 07:40:00 PM
I've been trying not to think about what we may or may not see this episode, but one thing I'm sure we'll see, 'cause they showed the first part earlier in the season, has me bouncing off the walls!!!
Sansa sex with Little Finger ?
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 26, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
Sansa sex with Little Finger ?



God I hope not
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 07:52:06 PM
Sansa sex with Little Finger ?

barf

No.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 08:04:24 PM
I saw the second installment of the Maze Runner movies last night. Little Finger and Jojen are big characters.

Spoiler alert - that movie blows
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 08:23:33 PM
Jesus tits.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 26, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
Quality season ender! I miss important people dying.

The only thing I hate is that now I have to wait like 9 1/2 months
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 26, 2016, 09:18:14 PM
This guy has directed 3 of the 5 best episodes of the series. Can he just do the rest?
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 10:04:04 PM
Fanfuckingtastic episode.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 10:05:36 PM
This guy has directed 3 of the 5 best episodes of the series. Can he just do the rest?

Yeah, he's sooooooooooooo good...
And while I've always enjoyed the music composed for the series, I think the composer outdid himself on this one.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 26, 2016, 10:13:15 PM
Yeah, he's sooooooooooooo good...
And while I've always enjoyed the music composed for the series, I think the composer outdid himself on this one.
Yes. Especially the opening destruction and win Jon was named KitN
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 26, 2016, 10:23:25 PM
Yes. Especially the opening destruction and win Jon was named KitN

*when

"Damn auto-correct!"
      -Kipp

grin1

Yeah, the music for that whole opening was exceptional.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 26, 2016, 10:38:44 PM
Quality season ender! I miss important people dying.

The only thing I hate is that now I have to wait like 9 1/2 months
Famous last words:  When that nun was getting tortured and it seemed like Cersei was about to have her killed, I turned to my wife and said, "Well, I guess she deserves it."  Then Clegane-Mountain-Zombie comes in and disrobes for some rapey horror.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 27, 2016, 06:03:56 AM
Famous last words:  When that nun was getting tortured and it seemed like Cersei was about to have her killed, I turned to my wife and said, "Well, I guess she deserves it."  Then Clegane-Mountain-Zombie comes in and disrobes for some rapey horror.



This is how Ramsey should have been treated
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Post by: Tom Ace on June 27, 2016, 09:58:57 AM
My favorite part of the episode was how Jaime looked at Cersei at the end.  Shit's about to get real with those two.  Which of her brothers do we think is going to be the one to kill Cersei?
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 27, 2016, 02:33:20 PM
My favorite part of the episode was how Jaime looked at Cersei at the end.  chit's about to get real with those two.  Which of her brothers do we think is going to be the one to kill Cersei?



Jamie, he redeems himself and will also be know as the Queenslayer
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 27, 2016, 02:37:02 PM


Jamie, he redeems himself and will also be know as the Queenslayer
I was gonna say the same thing. He's been on a path of redemption ever since season 3 and it will conclude with him killing Cersei.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 27, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
I was gonna say the same thing. He's been on a path of redemption ever since season 3 and it will conclude with him killing Cersei.




Then he fucks that Giant bitch
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 27, 2016, 02:56:55 PM



Then he fucks that Giant bitch
He'll be dead. And anyway, Tormund Giantsbane is gonna fuck the Giant Bitch.
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on June 27, 2016, 03:05:49 PM
Really, you think Jamie dies?
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 27, 2016, 03:13:32 PM
Really, you think Jamie dies?
You think he can kill Mountainstein?
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Post by: Scuzz on June 27, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
You think he can kill Mountainstein?

I was about to say won't he have to go through zombie mountain man to get to Cersei. Sounds like a great match that will probably happen at the end of next season.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 27, 2016, 04:19:21 PM


Jamie, he redeems himself and will also be know as the Queenslayer
Yeah, but in a booty-shaking way.

I'm sure Cersei's death has yet to be written.  My money is on dragon ripping her to shreds.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 27, 2016, 04:20:11 PM
I was about to say won't he have to go through zombie mountain man to get to Cersei. Sounds like a great match that will probably happen at the end of next season.
CleganeBowl is a sure thing - bet on it. 
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 27, 2016, 04:50:34 PM
Really, you think Jamie dies?


For me, it all hinges on how much stock one puts into Cersei's whole...we came into this world together, and we'll leave this world together...business. 

While it certainly looks like they're setting it up for Jaime to kill Cersei, I'm not convinced he's the valonqar.  He certainly could be, but I don't think it's definite.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 27, 2016, 04:51:42 PM
Yeah, but in a booty-shaking way.

I'm sure Cersei's death has yet to be written.  My money is on dragon ripping her to shreds.

I hope Cersei lives long enough to see Daenerys.
I want to see the look on Cersei's face.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 27, 2016, 05:24:59 PM
I hope Cersei lives long enough to see Daenerys.
I want to see the look on Cersei's face.
Cersei needs some retribution at John Snow & Sansa Stark's hands.  It was she that enabled, if not engineered Ned's death, so at the very least, a Stark should be responsible for killing Jaime.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 27, 2016, 05:31:48 PM
Cersei needs some retribution at John Snow & Sansa Stark's hands.  It was she that enabled, if not engineered Ned's death, so at the very least, a Stark should be responsible for killing Jaime.

A Stark killing Jaime, though, is tricky.
Jaime is the reason Brienne got to Sansa, and he's also the reason Brienne tried to help Arya (or what she thought was help Arya...she couldn't have known the Hound would not hurt Arya, at that point).

I just want Cersei to see Daenerys because in a lot of ways, Daenerys is everything Cersei wanted to be.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 27, 2016, 06:04:34 PM
Cersei needs some retribution at John Snow & Sansa Stark's hands.  It was she that enabled, if not engineered Ned's death, so at the very least, a Stark should be responsible for killing Jaime.
*Jon
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 27, 2016, 06:11:10 PM
*Jon
Shut up, stupid.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 27, 2016, 06:40:34 PM
i kinda think they could weave a heartbreaking moment in where Brienne has to kill Jaime. I also cannot see Cercei and Jamie dying more than 1 episode apart, and it wouldn't surprise me if they both die within 15 minutes of each other.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 27, 2016, 06:42:40 PM

I just want Cersei to see Daenerys because in a lot of ways, Daenerys is everything Cersei wanted to be.
the question is - is Lady Mormont everything Dany wanted to be :)

cant imagine this goes past season 2 if she gets a few dragons.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 27, 2016, 06:46:37 PM
How many were thinking that Dany could just marry Tyrion as he would happily go along with a political marriage, he could go about his whores, and she could keep the relationship with Daario with Tyrion keeping cover for them
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 27, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
How many were thinking that Dany could just marry Tyrion as he would happily go along with a political marriage, he could go about his whores, and she could keep the relationship with Daario with Tyrion keeping cover for them
Marrying Tyrion doesn't get her any kind of alliance with anyone in Westeros. She needs to marry someone like Jon. That will give her more support and increase the size of her army.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 27, 2016, 09:53:43 PM


Jamie, he redeems himself and will also be know as the Queenslayer
*known
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 27, 2016, 10:01:12 PM
Sol - If you're waiting for the next book to come out to find out what happens, I wouldn't read too much of this thread...

Big spoilers...

HUGE.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on June 27, 2016, 10:03:52 PM
Sol - If you're waiting for the next book to come out to find out what happens, I wouldn't read too much of this thread...

Big spoilers...

HUGE.
I don't give a fuck anymore. But appreciate the heads up.
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 27, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
I don't give a fuck anymore. But appreciate the heads up.

No problem.
I just know some book-folks have been losing their shit, 'cause they feel like the show is spoiling a lot of things for them.
Given the last sample chapter I just read (which isn't even new, but apparently left over from what was cut from ADWD), even though I'll still read it whenever it comes out, my expectations have gone way, way down, I'm sorry to say.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 27, 2016, 10:42:12 PM
No problem.
I just know some book-folks have been losing their shit, 'cause they feel like the show is spoiling a lot of things for them.
Given the last sample chapter I just read (which isn't even knew, but apparently left over from what was cut from ADWD), even though I'll still read it whenever it comes out, my expectations have gone way, way down, I'm sorry to say.
From what I gather, it's GRRM's fault for being so damn lazy in finishing the last book(s).  Presumably, his participation on the HBO show heavily influences how the books will be written, but no one knows for sure; he's basically writing the novelization of the show at this point.  Sorta.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 28, 2016, 08:07:37 AM
This guy has directed 3 of the 5 best episodes of the series. Can he just do the rest?

I don't know who directed this vs. the other ones but the last two had a different feel to them for sure.  The scenes leading up to the 'splosion where they kept showing Cersei in that awesome Vader-esque dress from odd comic book style angles...awesome.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 28, 2016, 10:48:04 AM
No problem.
I just know some book-folks have been losing their chit, 'cause they feel like the show is spoiling a lot of things for them.
Given the last sample chapter I just read (which isn't even knew, but apparently left over from what was cut from ADWD), even though I'll still read it whenever it comes out, my expectations have gone way, way down, I'm sorry to say.

I don't plan on reading any new material until the series is done, or GRRM is dead. So sometime in maybe 2025 I will re-read the first five books in anticipation of the final book coming out.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 28, 2016, 10:51:01 AM
i wonder if Vegas has odds as to which will end first - GRRM, the books' conclusion, or the show
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 28, 2016, 10:58:27 AM
i wonder if Vegas has odds as to which will end first - GRRM, the books' conclusion, or the show
Someone told me GRRM lost some weight, which wouldn't be a bad idea....
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 28, 2016, 11:37:43 AM
Someone told me GRRM lost some weight, which wouldn't be a bad idea....
running from Grumpkins and Snarks, no doubt
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Post by: Scuzz on June 28, 2016, 12:28:02 PM
So I have seen 90% of the show on youtube now. The burning of the Sept is a great scene, and Lady Mormont should be Queen of the North.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 28, 2016, 12:37:13 PM
So I have seen 90% of the show on youtube now. The burning of the Sept is a great scene, and Lady Mormont should be Queen of the North.
Goddamn dude, just get HBO Now and watch the show already.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 28, 2016, 01:05:46 PM
Goddamn dude, just get HBO Now and watch the show already.

There is nothing else I want on HBO. I really watch very little non-sports TV.
Besides, if anything the goal will soon be to reduce costs, not add them.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 28, 2016, 01:11:58 PM
There is nothing else I want on HBO. I really watch very little non-sports TV.
Besides, if anything the goal will soon be to reduce costs, not add them.
whats nice about HBO is that you also have access to all of their old shows on demand. great ones. Sopranos, Deadwood, Extras, etc
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 28, 2016, 01:12:38 PM
you could get HBO free for a year or two if you called up.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 28, 2016, 01:47:22 PM
you could get HBO free for a year or two if you called up.
A lotta places have free trials, complete with on-demand, if you don't mind binge-watching the whole thing in a weekend.
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Post by: Red Hessian on June 28, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
A lotta places have free trials, complete with on-demand, if you don't mind binge-watching the whole thing in a weekend.
that, too.

Threaten to leave, or try a competitor and see what they can do.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 28, 2016, 01:57:47 PM
A lotta places have free trials, complete with on-demand, if you don't mind binge-watching the whole thing in a weekend.

i am not going to binge watch anything.....
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 28, 2016, 02:12:08 PM
I don't know who directed this vs. the other ones but the last two had a different feel to them for sure.  The scenes leading up to the 'splosion where they kept showing Cersei in that awesome Vader-esque dress from odd comic book style angles...awesome.

He's the same director who directed Hardhome, last season.
His name is Miguel Sapochnik, and he is a Golden God (slightly hyperbolic, but only slightly).
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 28, 2016, 02:12:50 PM
Goddamn dude, just get HBO Now and watch the show already.

What is it...like, $15 bucks a month, and you can get it for as many or as few months as you want, right?
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Post by: Scuzz on June 28, 2016, 02:29:46 PM
What is it...like, $15 bucks a month, and you can get it for as many or as few months as you want, right?

something like that.....
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 28, 2016, 04:13:21 PM
What is it...like, $15 bucks a month, and you can get it for as many or as few months as you want, right?
Yep, and you start with a 30 day free trial.
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Post by: Scuzz on June 28, 2016, 06:47:56 PM
http://deadline.com/2016/06/game-of-thrones-season-6-finale-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-hbo-1201780242/

Quote
BENIOFF: It’s two more seasons we’re talking about. From pretty close to the beginning, we talked about doing this in 70-75 hours, and that’s what we’ll end up with. Call it 73 for now.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on June 28, 2016, 09:08:07 PM
http://deadline.com/2016/06/game-of-thrones-season-6-finale-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-hbo-1201780242/

If it's just 13 more episodes is rather see them just do one extended season.
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 29, 2016, 09:30:34 AM
If it's just 13 more episodes is rather see them just do one extended season.

Me too, or at the very least don't make me wait a year between each season.  Lots of shows do two "seasons" in one year.  I don't want to wait 52 weeks to get 7 episodes and 52 more to get to the end.
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Post by: Misterfamous on June 29, 2016, 09:32:39 AM
Hey Manny !  When did you get out of the joint ?!
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Post by: Mannyrules3 on June 29, 2016, 10:26:27 AM
Hey Manny !  When did you get out of the joint ?!

I've been here and there...was a few episodes behind on GoT until Monday night when I caught up, so I've been steering clear of this thread...
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: fear and loathing on June 29, 2016, 09:51:32 PM
I see Tyrion and Daenerys hooking up romantically, and Jamie and Cersei breaking apart.

Sansa and Jon Snow will first face the white riders, and will send south for help. Obviously, Little Finger, having been jilted, won't throw in. Cersei obviously won't help, but Jamie might.

I don't know if Sansa and Daenerys are compatible. Sansa's developed an ego.

Sam's going to save the day by discovering a magic bullet through his scholarship.

The Dornish amazons and Euron Greatjoy of the Iron Islands are wild cards to me going forward.

Does the exiled Red Witch join Cersei after getting kicked out of Westeros?

...and is Martin's 6th book (and any subsequent) moot now?
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Post by: Scuzz on June 30, 2016, 10:18:45 AM
I wouldn't say the 6th (and subsequent) books are moot, because his books go into much more depth than the show could ever think about, but I would say that the longer he takes to finish the series the fewer "new" readers he will get. At his current pace book 7 would be out in about 2022 or so. By then everyone will know the shows conclusion.

Books 1-3 are very good. Books 4-5 are meh. So he needs a good 6.
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Post by: fear and loathing on June 30, 2016, 11:06:02 AM
I wouldn't say the 6th (and subsequent) books are moot, because his books go into much more depth than the show could ever think about, but I would say that the longer he takes to finish the series the fewer "new" readers he will get. At his current pace book 7 would be out in about 2022 or so. By then everyone will know the shows conclusion.

Books 1-3 are very good. Books 4-5 are meh. So he needs a good 6.

I was wondering if Martin sold the rights to the future GoT story line to the HBO production company. He's not credited with writing the scripts anymore, as far as I can tell. It would be strange for the story line in season 6-? to be different from the story line in a Martin Book Six.

Frankly,  I thought season 6 was much faster moving than the preceding seasons, and I sensed that the story was going somewhere: It was proceeding to a conclusion of some sort.

With Martin, I think that the story will never go anywhere: The brutality and intrigue will go round-and-round, the old monsters replaced by new monsters (as in reality). That paradigm ensures Martin with a steady job. If Martin sells/sold to HBO, I wonder about the $...

The production of season 6 was easily better than anything that Hollywood has ever produced. The battle scene in the penultimate episode is masterful.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 30, 2016, 11:37:50 AM
Martin only wrote a couple episodes, maybe one per season in seasons 1-5. He did supposedly give HBO an idea of where he was going with the book but I think martin is known for not knowing himself where he is going with a book until he sits down to write it.

I don't doubt the books and HBO will both end with the same "winners/losers", but I don't know if they will get to that place the same way.

I do think episode 9s battle was epic, although the body piles were a little over the top. The run up to the Sept exploding in episode 10 was awesome.
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Post by: fear and loathing on June 30, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
Martin only wrote a couple episodes, maybe one per season in seasons 1-5. He did supposedly give HBO an idea of where he was going with the book but I think martin is known for not knowing himself where he is going with a book until he sits down to write it.

I don't doubt the books and HBO will both end with the same "winners/losers", but I don't know if they will get to that place the same way.

I do think episode 9s battle was epic, although the body piles were a little over the top. The run up to the Sept exploding in episode 10 was awesome.

I find it incredulous that there'd be alternative, concurrent story lines: Martin/HBO. Doesn't there have to be a deal made?
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Red Hessian on June 30, 2016, 12:52:37 PM
I had no idea you were a fan of the series, FnL
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Post by: fear and loathing on June 30, 2016, 12:58:10 PM
I had no idea you were a fan of the series, FnL

best thing ever on TV

Susie and I watch every episode at least thrice (maybe I get too stoned)
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Red Hessian on June 30, 2016, 01:22:02 PM
Well you learn something new every day
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Post by: Cali Cat on June 30, 2016, 02:05:44 PM
Martin sold the rights to ASOIAF, which means all the published books and the books yet to be written/published.
Martin stopped contributing scripts for the show at the end of season 4.  He had agreed to write one episode per season, but he was released from that commitment so he could focus more of his time on finishing the next book.  The next book should be finished a few years after the show ends, at least that is my guess, as he doesn't seem to have made much progress, at all.  The sample chapters he has released have been almost exclusively chapters left over from the last book, including the "new" one he read a few weeks ago.
As far as D&D knowing his plans for the books, they had a big meeting with Martin after season 4 (I think it was after season 4), where he outlined everything he had planned for the rest of the series.  Of course, plans can change, but I'm guessing most of the major beats will be the same.  The primary difference between the rest of the show and the rest of the books will be how they get to those major beats, or in other words, the journeys may differ, but the destination will be the same.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 30, 2016, 02:50:11 PM
I find it incredulous that there'd be alternative, concurrent story lines: Martin/HBO. Doesn't there have to be a deal made?

Nope. It was the gamble HBO took. In fact, I think it is fair to say HBO knew the series wouldn't be finished by the time they wrapped up, although I do think they thought they would have book 6 to use as a template and more info from the incomplete book 7.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Red Hessian on June 30, 2016, 02:54:30 PM
And there ya go
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 30, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
Nope. It was the gamble HBO took. In fact, I think it is fair to say HBO knew the series wouldn't be finished by the time they wrapped up, although I do think they thought they would have book 6 to use as a template and more info from the incomplete book 7.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Scuzz on June 30, 2016, 02:57:18 PM
Martin sold the rights to ASOIAF, which means all the published books and the books yet to be written/published.
Martin stopped contributing scripts for the show at the end of season 4.  He had agreed to write one episode per season, but he was released from that commitment so he could focus more of his time on finishing the next book.  The next book should be finished a few years after the show ends, at least that is my guess, as he doesn't seem to have made much progress, at all.  The sample chapters he has released have been almost exclusively chapters left over from the last book, including the "new" one he read a few weeks ago.
As far as D&D knowing his plans for the books, they had a big meeting with Martin after season 4 (I think it was after season 4), where he outlined everything he had planned for the rest of the series.  Of course, plans can change, but I'm guessing most of the major beats will be the same.  The primary difference between the rest of the show and the rest of the books will be how they get to those major beats, or in other words, the journeys may differ, but the destination will be the same.

So in your opinion book 6 is still far off?

I have drawn fire elsewhere for saying the books wouldn't ever be finished and I have noticed that the main guy who gets pissed by that is more or less agreeing with me now, or at least agreeing that it will be 2023 or later.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 30, 2016, 03:01:26 PM
So many of the big "reveals" already took place this season, there isn't too much left, I don't think.  Of course, we don't know who'll live through the upcoming Battle for the Dawn II, we don't know how the White Walkers will get through the Wall, we don't know who all will sit on the Iron Throne moving forward, and we don't know who will end up on the Iron Throne at the end (if there's even an Iron Throne left), and we don't know if there's anything truly important down in the crypts of Winterfell, and, yeah, that does seem like a lot.  As I said, though, so many of the big "reveals" already happened, and a lot of those were the ones for which book-readers have been waiting (Benjen's fate, whether the character we thought was the Hound was, in fact, the Hound, and, of course, the big one...Jon's parentage).
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on June 30, 2016, 03:13:33 PM
So in your opinion book 6 is still far off?

I have drawn fire elsewhere for saying the books wouldn't ever be finished and I have noticed that the main guy who gets pissed by that is more or less agreeing with me now, or at least agreeing that it will be 2023 or later.

Yes, I think it will be a while before we see book 6.  Sure, there's a chance he's gotten a lot more finished than I think, but with all the pressure he's inevitably getting, if he'd finished more, why are all the sample chapters he's released left overs from A Dance With Dragons?  It seems like he could at least temporarily shut some people up by releasing even one truly new chapter.  I hope I'm wrong.  I hope he has most of it finished and is playing coy about it, so everyone can be all..."ooooo, wow, I'm so surprised and happy," when he released it fairly soon.  I ain't holding my breath, though.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Tom Ace on July 01, 2016, 08:27:26 AM
So many of the big "reveals" already took place this season, there isn't too much left, I don't think.  Of course, we don't know who'll live through the upcoming Battle for the Dawn II, we don't know how the White Walkers will get through the Wall, we don't know who all will sit on the Iron Throne moving forward, and we don't know who will end up on the Iron Throne at the end (if there's even an Iron Throne left), and we don't know if there's anything truly important down in the crypts of Winterfell, and, yeah, that does seem like a lot.  As I said, though, so many of the big "reveals" already happened, and a lot of those were the ones for which book-readers have been waiting (Benjen's fate, whether the character we thought was the Hound was, in fact, the Hound, and, of course, the big one...Jon's parentage).

This is the problem the show had this season.  They pretty much had to do all or most of the big reveals, because they only have 13 episodes left.  They still have to resolve Dany coming over, Euron Greyjoy, Jaime/Cersei, the north, Sam and Arya, among other things, even before they get to the final war with the White Walkers.  Season 8 should be all or almost all about that war, so that leaves 7 episodes to at least mostly resolve all that other stuff. 

Also, I agree it would be nice to get one 13-episode season, but this is how a lot of these big shows do it these days: two shortened seasons to end it.  Breaking Bad and Mad Men did it too.  In the case of GoT, it also makes some sense, since season 7 builds to the final showdown, and then there's a pause before we get to it.  Even though it will suck waiting that long for the final season.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 01, 2016, 08:44:08 PM
This is the problem the show had this season.  They pretty much had to do all or most of the big reveals, because they only have 13 episodes left.  They still have to resolve Dany coming over, Euron Greyjoy, Jaime/Cersei, the north, Sam and Arya, among other things, even before they get to the final war with the White Walkers.  Season 8 should be all or almost all about that war, so that leaves 7 episodes to at least mostly resolve all that other stuff. 

Also, I agree it would be nice to get one 13-episode season, but this is how a lot of these big shows do it these days: two shortened seasons to end it.  Breaking Bad and Mad Men did it too.  In the case of GoT, it also makes some sense, since season 7 builds to the final showdown, and then there's a pause before we get to it.  Even though it will suck waiting that long for the final season.

You think they put the reveals they put into this season into this season because they only have 13 episodes left?  It seemed to me as though they put them in this season because that's where they were in the story.  I'll take quality over quantity, and for me, D&D have done enough to prove they know what they're doing, and if they only feel like that have 13 episodes worth of story left to tell, I trust their judgement on that.  As for the stories they have left to resolve, it seems to me as though all the characters are coming together, and everyone is already at the destination for which they're meant, or heading that way.

As for a final season with 13 episodes, well, we'd have to wait longer than a year for them to air, as the show-runners have said it's gotten to a point they can't finish 10 episodes in their regular shooting schedule.  I'd rather them take the full schedule to do fewer episodes, and have them be the best they can be, than try to rush things.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on July 01, 2016, 08:44:16 PM
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Misterfamous on July 04, 2016, 12:49:36 PM


Not too far off what some of the book purists are demanding.  I read an article yesterday that was essentially an essay-length whine that HBO gets to finish the story, because GRRM is ~8 months late on delivering the first of the last two books.  It lightly chastised Martin for the delay, but the tone was that HBO was some kind of evil, money-grubbing machine that should pause its entire production to give the author time to catch up.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on July 04, 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Not too far off what some of the book purists are demanding.  I read an article yesterday that was essentially an essay-length whine that HBO gets to finish the story, because GRRM is ~8 months late on delivering the first of the last two books.  It lightly chastised Martin for the delay, but the tone was that HBO was some kind of evil, money-grubbing machine that should pause its entire production to give the author time to catch up.
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Ummm, well, isn't it?
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Post by: Red Hessian on July 04, 2016, 05:55:07 PM
HBO is a business first, and a "give a shit" somewhere way down the line. They are also notorious for being cheap with their talent.

I accept that, as they have given me more entertainment than any other network.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: Cali Cat on July 04, 2016, 06:02:40 PM
Not too far off what some of the book purists are demanding.  I read an article yesterday that was essentially an essay-length whine that HBO gets to finish the story, because GRRM is ~8 months late on delivering the first of the last two books.  It lightly chastised Martin for the delay, but the tone was that HBO was some kind of evil, money-grubbing machine that should pause its entire production to give the author time to catch up.

If you ever want to see some real crazy at work, check out the twitter of the woman who helped Martin with his World of Ice and Fire book.  She is also one of the owners of westeros.org.  She's a fucking whack-job, and she despises the show to such an extreme, it's hilarious.  Of course, she makes money off the show by translating it, not to mention the extra book-sales and website hits the show has generated for her.  She also has the thinnest skin of pretty much anyone I've ever seen.

https://twitter.com/hippoiathanatoi
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Post by: Red Hessian on July 04, 2016, 06:30:14 PM
So you're saying field trip
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Post by: Red Hessian on July 04, 2016, 06:30:31 PM
I don't tweet, though

How about the website
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 04, 2016, 06:43:22 PM
So you're saying field trip

Sure, why not.

I don't tweet, though

How about the website

I'm not a twitterer, either, but some of the guys here may have twitter accounts.
If any of you decide to try and have a lil fun with her,  just make sure to post links for us all to enjoy.

I thought I'd already posted the site's address here, but it turns out it was on another thread.

asoiaf.westeros.org
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Post by: Misterfamous on July 04, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
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Ummm, well, isn't it?
The point is, we don't expect them to be anything else.  Halting the whole production so that the lazy-ass author can work at his own speed and have the two forms of the same story reach their end at the same time, would be selfish too.


HBO is a business first, and a "give a shit" somewhere way down the line. They are also notorious for being cheap with their talent.

I accept that, as they have given me more entertainment than any other network.
Exactly.


So you're saying field trip
I'm in.
Title: Re: Valar Morghulis ~~~WARNING: SEASON 6 SPOILER ALERT!!!~~~
Post by: NFL-Solomon on July 06, 2016, 08:31:02 PM
The point is, we don't expect them to be anything else.  Halting the whole production so that the lazy-ass author can work at his own speed and have the two forms of the same story reach their end at the same time, would be selfish too.

Exactly.

I'm in.
Oh, I don't blame HBO, except for adding in non existent chit, when they removed so much, and they could have put some of that in, I blame that fatass. Stephen King can write like 30 books to Gorging Martin's 1.
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Post by: Misterfamous on July 06, 2016, 11:05:42 PM
Gorging Martin's
LOL.  Nice one.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 13, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
All Hail Samuel L. Jackson!!!

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Post by: Red Hessian on July 13, 2016, 05:35:15 PM
Lol.

Bran trippin
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on July 13, 2016, 08:00:01 PM
Lol.

Bran trippin



Exactly what I took from it
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on July 13, 2016, 08:00:26 PM
Thanks Cali, awesome video
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 18, 2016, 05:03:29 PM
You're welcome, Chocolate. :)


http://watchersonthewall.com/hbo-confirms-seven-episode-season-7-game-thrones-airing-next-summer/
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Post by: Red Hessian on July 18, 2016, 05:07:56 PM
Dammit. It's the Sopranos all over again.

I suppose it is nice to have two more years of episodes, but I hate the wait!
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Post by: Red Hessian on July 18, 2016, 05:08:03 PM
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on July 19, 2016, 12:47:02 AM
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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Next Game of Thrones Season, not being released until summer 2017 (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/07/18/hbo-confirms-game-thrones-season-7-to-premiere-in-summer-2018.html?intcmp=hpffo&intcmp=obnetwork)
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Post by: Scuzz on July 19, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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Next Game of Thrones Season, not being released until summer 2017 (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/07/18/hbo-confirms-game-thrones-season-7-to-premiere-in-summer-2018.html?intcmp=hpffo&intcmp=obnetwork)

and the book still won't be out
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 19, 2016, 01:02:27 PM
I wonder why Sol posted a link to presumably the same information I already posted?

Of course, I don't follow embedded links without checking what's been embedded, so I noticed it's a link fox news.
I guess he figured no one would click on the link if they saw "fox news" contained therein.  heehee
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on July 19, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
I wonder why Sol posted a link to presumably the same information I already posted?

Of course, I don't follow embedded links without checking what's been embedded, so I noticed it's a link fox news.
I guess he figured no one would click on the link if they saw "fox news" contained therein.  heehee

Sorry, I just found it funny it was on Fox News.

    ... and it was funny-funny, too.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 19, 2016, 08:27:17 PM
Sorry, I just found it funny it was on Fox News.

    ... and it was funny-funny, too.

Yeah, that is kinda funny.  Then again, the show averaged around 25 million viewers per episode for season 6, so I guess they figured enough people cared about the next season, it was worth reporting.
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on July 19, 2016, 08:39:20 PM
Yeah, that is kinda funny.  Then again, the show averaged around 25 million viewers per episode for season 6, so I guess they figured enough people cared about the next season, it was worth reporting.
Well, I meant more, HBO is giving viewers the same treatment Martin is giving readers.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 20, 2016, 12:57:10 PM
Well, I meant more, HBO is giving viewers the same treatment Martin is giving readers.

Gimme a break.
Unlike Martin, HBO will meet their deadline.
Most likely unlike Martin, HBO will finish the story they're telling.
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Post by: Scuzz on July 20, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
Well, I meant more, HBO is giving viewers the same treatment Martin is giving readers.

HBO is blaming the delay on weather requirements. Tough to shoot snow scenes during the summer. Sure they could CGI it, but that isn't as good and may not even be a cost savings.

And HBO makes no extra money be delaying it.
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 20, 2016, 02:27:46 PM
Forgive my lil fan-girl moment, but I thought this was pretty awesome, and made even more so because it was made by the actress who plays Arya.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BICvtJ3BKEF/?taken-by=maisie_williams
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Post by: Sexual Chocolate on July 20, 2016, 03:22:36 PM
GO TEAM STARK!!!
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Post by: Cali Cat on July 20, 2016, 03:45:49 PM
cheer1 (http://static.tumblr.com/fbabc998e4e6fa9b2734b4d1b14253e5/adrmcma/Ldhntl78z/tumblr_static_ehw1ac5omrk0kskc4ogc0sw4k.png) cheer1
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Post by: NFL-Solomon on July 20, 2016, 06:54:59 PM
GO TEAM STARK!!!
GO TEAM TARGARYEN!!!
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Post by: Red Hessian on July 21, 2016, 12:10:00 AM
Go Lady Mormont, Tyrion, and Bronn.

And maybe the Hound and Yara Greyjoy.

I don't really have a "team" as much as I wish the best for four of them, and redemption for the Hound.
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Post by: UTKipp1 on July 21, 2016, 12:17:37 AM
GO TEAM STARK!!!
GO TEAM TARGARYEN!!!
Starkaryen?
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 14, 2016, 02:31:24 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a5/01/17/a50117f8504c6e0c1cd90dc177dc2793.jpg)
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 14, 2016, 02:32:59 PM
Oh, and has anyone seen this, yet???

HBO is doing a GoT election.
Yeah, sure, it's silly, but I appreciate something about which to laugh in terms of the 2016 election.

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Post by: Cali Cat on August 14, 2016, 02:37:21 PM
oops1

I forgot this part:

http://thegotparty.com/

The platforms are pretty funny.
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Post by: B_lake on August 22, 2016, 02:53:45 PM
I'm all caught up!!*



*With the show, not this thread.
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Post by: Cali Cat on August 22, 2016, 03:26:50 PM
(http://pictures.master