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Re: Are the Trump Family's* Financial Ties to Saudi Arabia ...
« Reply #100 on: October 21, 2018, 10:11:53 PM »
Hahah- Trump must be some kind of brilliant tactician. 

Do you think Jared Kushner had inside knowledge of 9/11 ?

Only if the Russians told him prior to the past election....lol
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« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2018, 09:04:37 AM »
Making blithely stupid and lying statements about Israel and hanging out with Linda Sarsour are plenty enough evidence.  What's the matter, Tom- you've moved so far from the middle that any attack on extremists gives you hives ?

facepalm Even if I give you that she made stupid or lying statements about Isreal, neither of those things (including hanging out with Linda Sarsour) means she hates Jews. 

The worst thing you could say about her is that she said something questionable/uninformed about Israel and Palestine (that's worst-case scenario).  She didn't say anything antisemitic, and she's done nothing at all that comes close to showing that she hates Jews.  And Sarsour is a major activist in women's marches and Black Lives Matter.  She has been criticized by some for her opinions on Israel, but she also isn't antisemitic.  She has been supported by a number of Jewish groups and leaders.

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Re: Are the Trump Family's* Financial Ties to Saudi Arabia ...
« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2018, 01:59:20 PM »
I don't expect this article to sway the views of those who seem only interested in regurgitating far right talking points and defending/excusing/whatever Trump, Kushner, or whoever else, but for anyone else, y'all may find this at least slightly informative:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2018/10/19/on-jamal-khashoggi-the-muslim-brotherhood-and-saudi-arabia/
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Re: Are the Trump Family's* Financial Ties to Saudi Arabia ...
« Reply #103 on: October 22, 2018, 03:19:28 PM »
I don't expect this article to sway the views of those who seem only interested in regurgitating far right talking points and defending/excusing/whatever Trump, Kushner, or whoever else, but for anyone else, y'all may find this at least slightly informative:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2018/10/19/on-jamal-khashoggi-the-muslim-brotherhood-and-saudi-arabia/

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Re: Are the Trump Family's* Financial Ties to Saudi Arabia ...
« Reply #104 on: October 22, 2018, 04:10:03 PM »
facepalm Even if I give you that she made stupid or lying statements about Isreal, neither of those things (including hanging out with Linda Sarsour) means she hates Jews. 
No, it’s arguably worse.  She’s be instead trading on the Antisemitism and hate of others.  Trump did it for part of his campaign. 

The extreme Left absolutely harbors Antisemitic sentiment.  It’s an unofficial part of its platform.  Where there’s overlap with actual Jews on the Left (probably not so much its extremes), the decision’s been made not to care, because Jews aren’t considered a major voting bloc on any part of the ideological spectrum.

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The worst thing you could say about her is that she said something questionable/uninformed about Israel and Palestine (that's worst-case scenario).  She didn't say anything antisemitic, and she's done nothing at all that comes close to showing that she hates Jews.  And Sarsour is a major activist in women's marches and Black Lives Matter.  She has been criticized by some for her opinions on Israel, but she also isn't antisemitic.  She has been supported by a number of Jewish groups and leaders.
Sarsour not Antisemitic ?!?  Okay, Tom.  :))
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« Reply #105 on: October 22, 2018, 04:15:17 PM »
Fake link
Nah, but a pointless opinion piece.  The tl;dr version is that the Muslim Brotherhood ain’t so bad, the Saudis ain’t so good, and Khashoggi probably didn’t deserve to die.  Has shit to do with Trump or Kushner.
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« Reply #106 on: October 22, 2018, 04:17:35 PM »
Not making a judgment, just one of the earlier posts reminded me of this.

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« Reply #107 on: October 22, 2018, 04:35:07 PM »
Damn, some people get rather defensive over something that may challenge their views, even if it's posted by someone they claim to be ignoring.

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« Reply #108 on: October 22, 2018, 04:54:55 PM »
Not making a judgment, just one of the earlier posts reminded me of this.


LOL.  You do like to stir the pot. :))
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« Reply #109 on: October 22, 2018, 04:55:55 PM »
LOL.  You do like to stir the pot. :))

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« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2018, 06:44:56 PM »
It looks as though the CIA has concluded Mohammed bin Salman did, in fact, order the death of Jamal Khashoggi.

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Re: Are the Trump Family's* Financial Ties to Saudi Arabia ...
« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2018, 06:54:58 PM »
It looks as though the CIA has concluded Mohammed bin Salman did, in fact, order the death of Jamal Khashoggi.
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« Reply #112 on: November 20, 2018, 04:38:41 PM »
As expected, Trump just doesn't give a flying fuck about Khashoggi's murder.
If his stance on it has nothing to do with his or anyone in his family's personal business/financial ties, why is he suddenly pretending he has nothing to do with them, when he's been on record saying things like how much they spend on the apartments they've bought from him.

If he has nothing to hide, why not tell the truth?
Yes, I realize expecting him to tell the truth is unrealistic, I'm just still amazed there are people who don't give a fuck how much he lies, what he lies about, or why.

Meanwhile, he's been more critical of the man who organized and carried out the raid that got bin Laden, than he's been of Mohammed bin Salman.

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« Reply #113 on: November 20, 2018, 08:34:03 PM »
As expected, Trump just doesn't give a flying fuck about Khashoggi's murder.
If his stance on it has nothing to do with his or anyone in his family's personal business/financial ties, why is he suddenly pretending he has nothing to do with them, when he's been on record saying things like how much they spend on the apartments they've bought from him.

If he has nothing to hide, why not tell the truth?
Yes, I realize expecting him to tell the truth is unrealistic, I'm just still amazed there are people who don't give a fuck how much he lies, what he lies about, or why.

Meanwhile, he's been more critical of the man who organized and carried out the raid that got bin Laden, than he's been of Mohammed bin Salman.

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Who cares, he wasn't a US Citizen.
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« Reply #114 on: November 21, 2018, 12:03:41 PM »
Thank you, Sol, for reinforcing there are people who don't give a fuck how much he lies, what he lies about, or why.
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« Reply #115 on: November 21, 2018, 01:55:23 PM »
Thank you, Sol, for reinforcing there are people who don't give a fuck how much he lies, what he lies about, or why.
I wasn't talking about Trump, bu rather Kas-augggh-i, who cares,he is a foreign national. Not our problem.
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« Reply #116 on: November 21, 2018, 02:32:35 PM »
I wasn't talking about Trump, bu rather Kas-augggh-i, who cares,he is a foreign national. Not our problem.

There are some Senators, including Republican ones, who appear to disagree with you, Sol.
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« Reply #117 on: November 21, 2018, 02:40:57 PM »
There are some Senators, including Republican ones, who appear to disagree with you, Sol.
WHAT?

Some politicians are engaginging in political grandstanding?

Say it isn't so!
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